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Old 03-14-2014, 09:58 PM   #46
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Well blame Henin and Carlos... the Rafa and Tio Toni of WTA...
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For once, I agree with Federer. On-court coaching is a terrible idea and I hope it is never implemented.

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Pff you sound like Nadal, only promoting your own agenda. The rule is not a joke, the rule is no coaching - from the stands or otherwise. It's as it should be, of course. Obviously it's not "more okay" if done from the stands. And stop making irrelevant comments about boxing.

And if 25 seconds are enough for everyone but Nadal and a few others then they should adapt and not the other way around. You have admitted you are a time waster yourself, understand this: people want to see the ball in play, not you drying yourself off with a towel for half a minute.
Drying with the towel is just as much mental as physical. It is ritual. Put the last point behind you, move on mentally to the next point, decide where you going to serve, etc. What, do people just want players playing every 10 seconds with brainless and exhausted tennis? Is that more entertaining?

Just because a rule is there doesn't mean it is just. And Nadal is not the only one using 25 seconds or more. Many players have been warned for the time violation rules, and it is always a joke. Anytime someone gets a time violation, all the umpire is doing is wasting MORE time Now the player stops, starts talking to the umpire, etc., and now who is the real time waster?

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this is just ridiculous. some guy yelling and gesticulating wildly from the stands. I feel sorry for the fan who paid to sit in front of or behind that coach. Then the player hollering back from his bench and throwing his arms up ("I am hitting over my backhand, but he's just crushing it!") It's going to look and sound like a kindergarten.
On the contrary. What true fan wouldn't love to be in on the conversation that the coach is having with their fighter?
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so it's OK when Nadal doing it but it's forbidden for everybody else ?
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so it's OK when Nadal doing it but it's forbidden for everybody else ?
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All should be equal. Everyone should be able to use 30 seconds, everyone should be able to listen to their coach from the stands.
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All should be equal. Everyone should be able to use 30 seconds, everyone should be able to listen to their coach from the stands.
i know, but for now nobody except Nadal isn't able to do it. that's the part with which i have problems
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Drying with the towel is just as much mental as physical. It is ritual. Put the last point behind you, move on mentally to the next point, decide where you going to serve, etc. What, do people just want players playing every 10 seconds with brainless and exhausted tennis? Is that more entertaining?

Just because a rule is there doesn't mean it is just. And Nadal is not the only one using 25 seconds or more. Many players have been warned for the time violation rules, and it is always a joke. Anytime someone gets a time violation, all the umpire is doing is wasting MORE time Now the player stops, starts talking to the umpire, etc., and now who is the real time waster?
Stop whining ffs, 25 seconds is enough. The players don't have a problem with it. You are being a drama queen, which kind of your thing on here.
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Drying with the towel is just as much mental as physical. It is ritual. Put the last point behind you, move on mentally to the next point, decide where you going to serve, etc. What, do people just want players playing every 10 seconds with brainless and exhausted tennis? Is that more entertaining?
Actually, I wish they'd dump the towels, or reduce their usage to twice a set. That's what you have sweat bands for. I can't think of another sport in which young children or big grown men in the case of the USO walk behind pampered athletes waiting on them as they do in tennis. "May we heat your towel for you, sir/ma'am? Is milord's/milady's towel soft enough, shall we fluff it up some more?"
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Stop whining ffs, 25 seconds is enough. The players don't have a problem with it. You are being a drama queen, which kind of your thing on here.
The players absolutely have a problem with it. I don't think I've heard or seen any player that got a time violation and then said to the umpire: "Gee, I was really over the line there, you were right to give me the violation"

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Actually, I wish they'd dump the towels, or reduce their usage to twice a set. That's what you have sweat bands for. I can't think of another sport in which young children or big grown men in the case of the USO walk behind pampered athletes waiting on them as they do in tennis. "May we heat your towel for you, sir/ma'am? Is milord's/milady's towel soft enough, shall we fluff it up some more?"
Towels twice a set? Oh lord

The pampering, however, is a bit much, I agree on that, but sweat bands can easily become too sweaty in and of themselves deep in a match. Often times you are wiping your wet forehand with an even wetter sweat band! This is what the towel is for. Also for wiping off the grip, drying the grip of the racquet, which one cannot do with a sweat band.

Besides, one drip of sweat could mean the difference between a clean ace, struck perfectly, vs. a drop of sweat making your palm slick and causing you to not have the same control you want on the serve, you miss the ace by 2 inches, now you have to battle a 2nd serve point.

Towels are very, very important.

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Well, Fed was always against off-court coaching, why would he be for the on-court coaching?
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All should be equal. Everyone should be able to use 30 seconds, everyone should be able to listen to their coach from the stands.


I went to get some contact lens solution, hand lotion, and beer, and the "can only coach from the stands but not courtside" comment jumped into my mind inexplicably and I lol'ed IRL. Your tongue 'n cheek suggestion essentially preserves the status quo with uncle toni doing his thang , then Kat taking the bait, so I was laughing quite a bit in the store (by myself)-- the visual aspect of it all. I remember there was a sarcastic comment about Roddick interviewing Fed while he still had his tennis shoes on & I could not get to sleep the whole night. MAybe MTF (like a large meal) should not be read (consumed) past mid-day. But I'm sure it's healthier to giggle your way to sleep as opposed to having nightmares from having seen random Fed pics in what SHOULD be the "funny" foto thread. Just can't.
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Stop whining ffs, 25 seconds is enough. The players don't have a problem with it. You are being a drama queen, which kind of your thing on here.
Stop ignoring science. 25 seconds are at least twice less than 30 years ago! The Earth rotates quicker around the Sun now, and time shrinks. So does distance btw but people notice that less because they explain it by modern technology.

I'd change it to at least 40 seconds, 30 seconds is a must.
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I remember reading in McEnroe's book, or was it Connors' book? One of those two, probably both, where in those days, the time limit was 30 seconds. And those guys had a good chunk of text about how to fully utilize the 30 seconds, how not to rush, take your time, towel, etc.

Now I realize Connors and Mac weren't exactly known first and foremost for their good class and sportsmanship, but still. They were/are great champions, and I trust their expertise on this subject as opposed to some online troll.

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I went to get some contact lens solution, hand lotion, and beer, and the "can only coach from the stands but not courtside" comment jumped into my mind inexplicably and I lol'ed IRL. Your tongue 'n cheek suggestion essentially preserves the status quo with uncle toni doing his thang , then Kat taking the bait, so I was laughing quite a bit in the store (by myself)-- the visual aspect of it all. I remember there was a sarcastic comment about Roddick interviewing Fed while he still had his tennis shoes on & I could not get to sleep the whole night. MAybe MTF (like a large meal) should not be read (consumed) past mid-day. But I'm sure it's healthier to giggle your way to sleep as opposed to having nightmares from having seen random Fed pics in what SHOULD be the "funny" foto thread. Just can't.
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