Alternative player ranking system - Page 7 - MensTennisForums.com

MensTennisForums.com

MenstennisForums.com is the premier Men's Tennis forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.Please Register - It's Free!

Reply

Old 10-30-2013, 09:38 PM   #91
country flag G.100sic
Registered User
 
G.100sic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Age: 52
Posts: 382
G.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Alternative player ranking system

Basel and Valencia now obsolete - see newest post.

Last edited by G.100sic : 11-18-2013 at 06:23 PM. Reason: Expired
G.100sic is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 10-30-2013, 09:53 PM   #92
country flag G.100sic
Registered User
 
G.100sic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Age: 52
Posts: 382
G.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Alternative player ranking system

With a good result in Paris, Del Potro could end up at #3, in front of Murray. Unfortunately, since Elo ranking points depend on the strength of the opponent, it is not possible to say how many wins he needs to achieve this. Probably if he makes it to the quarters, almost certainly if he makes it to the semi.
G.100sic is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2013, 10:56 PM   #93
country flag G.100sic
Registered User
 
G.100sic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Age: 52
Posts: 382
G.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Alternative player ranking system

Actually, turns out that Delpo earned 5.1 Elo points (now 491.2) in his R32 win against Cilic, so he is now just 3.4 points behind Murray. Delpo will next play against Dimitrov, who now has 275.1 points, so if Delpo wins he will also earn 5.4 points (unless Dimitrov retires in the 1st set) and he will overtake Murray at #3.
And odds are 1.288 : 4.469 in favor of Delpo.

Last edited by G.100sic : 10-30-2013 at 11:01 PM.
G.100sic is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2013, 05:03 PM   #94
country flag G.100sic
Registered User
 
G.100sic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Age: 52
Posts: 382
G.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Alternative player ranking system

Delpo indeed made it briefly to #3, but only to lose to Federer, and is now again at #4 trailing Murray by just 0.8 points.
G.100sic is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2013, 07:24 PM   #95
country flag G.100sic
Registered User
 
G.100sic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Age: 52
Posts: 382
G.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Alternative player ranking system

Top 10 positions are set even before the Paris Masters final. The number of points may change, but the rankings can not any more.

So here are the Top 10 by my Elo system race ranking:
1 Novak Djokovic
2 Rafael Nadal
3 Andy Murray
4 Juan Martin Del Potro
5 David Ferrer
6 Roger Federer
7 Tomas Berdych
8 Stanislas Wawrinka
9 Richard Gasquet
10 Mikhail Youzhny

So, exactly the same players (marked bold) would have made it to the WTF tournament as by the official ATP ranking.
G.100sic is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2013, 07:29 PM   #96
country flag G.100sic
Registered User
 
G.100sic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Age: 52
Posts: 382
G.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Alternative player ranking system

Based on this ranking, if the same principle would be applied for forming the groups at the WTF, we would again have the "murder group" (only it would be the Group A), with Djokovic, Del Potro, Federer, and to spice it up even more, Wawrinka instead of Gasquet!
G.100sic is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2013, 06:40 PM   #97
country flag G.100sic
Registered User
 
G.100sic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Age: 52
Posts: 382
G.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Alternative player ranking system

Race ranking after Paris now obsolete - see newest post.

Last edited by G.100sic : 11-18-2013 at 06:25 PM. Reason: Expired
G.100sic is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2013, 10:08 PM   #98
country flag G.100sic
Registered User
 
G.100sic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Age: 52
Posts: 382
G.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Alternative player ranking system

Del Potro finishes this season as World No 3!
In my Elo ranking, that is...
G.100sic is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2013, 10:27 PM   #99
country flag G.100sic
Registered User
 
G.100sic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Age: 52
Posts: 382
G.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Alternative player ranking system

Second to last update for the season. Only the DK finals left.
Thanks to their results in the WTF Federer and Berdych moved in front David Ferrer, who dropped to #7.
Berdych has a chance to overtake Federer and finish at #5, but for that to happen he must win both his ties in the DK finals (assuming he plays 2 rubbers), which is highly unlikely considering that one of those is against Novak.

Code:
"Race" Positions                             Elo    Matches  Last match
rank   moved     Player                      points played   date
  1        0     Novak Djokovic              730.7      87   2013-11-11
  2        0     Rafael Nadal                636.8      82   2013-11-11
  3        1     Juan Martin Del Potro       507.5      70   2013-11-09
  4       -1     Andy Murray                 494.6      52   2013-09-15
  5        1     Roger Federer               462.6      62   2013-11-10
  6        1     Tomas Berdych               449.5      81   2013-11-08
  7       -2     David Ferrer                441.3      87   2013-11-08
  8        0     Stanislas Wawrinka          430.9      73   2013-11-10
  9        0     Richard Gasquet             411.9      73   2013-11-09
 10        0     Mikhail Youzhny             380        63   2013-10-29
 11        0     Milos Raonic                370.3      69   2013-10-31
 12        0     Tommy Haas                  362.8      71   2013-10-30
 13        0     John Isner                  356.9      64   2013-10-31
 14        0     Jo-Wilfried Tsonga          353.1      58   2013-10-29
 15        0     Tommy Robredo               333.5      56   2013-10-09
 16        0     Fernando Verdasco           315.3      56   2013-10-29
 17        0     Ivan Dodig                  303.2      62   2013-10-30
 18        0     Fabio Fognini               300.2      70   2013-10-30
 19        0     Philipp Kohlschreiber       295.3      57   2013-10-31
 20        0     Nicolas Almagro             295        67   2013-10-31
 21        0     Ernests Gulbis              289.1      50   2013-10-28
 22        0     Kei Nishikori               288.7      56   2013-10-31
 23        0     Jerzy Janowicz              283.5      47   2013-10-31
 24        0     Grigor Dimitrov             281.7      58   2013-10-31
 25        0     Lleyton Hewitt              271.3      45   2013-10-15
 26        0     Gael Monfils                271        55   2013-10-23
 27        0     Feliciano Lopez             262.4      49   2013-10-30
 28        0     Marin Cilic                 252.7      38   2013-10-30
 29        0     Kevin Anderson              245        62   2013-10-30
 30        0     Dmitry Tursunov             239.2      52   2013-10-29
 31        0     Robin Haase                 237.2      56   2013-10-30
 32        0     Gilles Simon                234.3      60   2013-10-31
 33        0     Marcel Granollers           230.9      51   2013-10-30
 34        0     Vasek Pospisil              226.4      35   2013-10-29
 35        0     Sam Querrey                 225.2      49   2013-10-07
 36        0     Florian Mayer               224.9      55   2013-10-23
 37        0     Denis Istomin               222        61   2013-10-28
 38        0     Andreas Seppi               217.3      62   2013-10-28
 39        0     Bernard Tomic               213.4      50   2013-10-28
 40        0     Julien Benneteau            208.2      52   2013-10-28
 41        0     Roberto Bautista Agut       199.7      48   2013-10-23
 42        0     Jurgen Melzer               199.7      52   2013-10-09
 43        0     Jarkko Nieminen             191.3      57   2013-10-29
 44        0     Carlos Berlocq              186.7      52   2013-10-22
 45        0     Juan Monaco                 184.1      48   2013-09-30
 46        0     Nicolas Mahut               182.9      24   2013-10-30
 47        0     Benoit Paire                177.7      62   2013-10-28
 48        0     Lukas Rosol                 173        50   2013-10-30
 49        0     Alexandr Dolgopolov         168.6      51   2013-10-29
 50        0     Jeremy Chardy               165.2      47   2013-10-28
 51        0     Daniel Brands               161.2      47   2013-10-25
 52        0     Igor Sijsling               150.7      44   2013-10-28
 53        0     Viktor Troicki              147.8      38   2013-07-25
 54        0     Ivo Karlovic                145        28   2013-10-24
 55        0     Edouard Roger-Vasselin      144.7      49   2013-10-29
 56        0     Guillermo Garcia-Lopez      144.2      42   2013-10-22
 57        0     Joao Sousa                  143.5      27   2013-10-24
 58        0     Yen-Hsun Lu                 143.1      34   2013-10-01
 59        0     Marcos Baghdatis            142.5      39   2013-10-24
 60        0     Marinko Matosevic           134        43   2013-10-03
 61        0     Evgeny Donskoy              133.2      33   2013-10-17
 62        0     Radek Stepanek              132.1      31   2013-10-23
 63        0     Janko Tipsarevic            127.5      48   2013-10-21
 64        0     Daniel Evans                122.4      10   2013-09-15
 65        0     Tim Smyczek                 119.1      19   2013-09-01
 66        0     Michal Przysiezny           118.8      23   2013-10-30
 67        0     Tobias Kamke                115.7      39   2013-10-24
 68        0     Michael Llodra              115.7      26   2013-10-29
 69        0     Albert Ramos                112.9      43   2013-10-14
 70        0     Nikolay Davydenko           112.4      44   2013-10-01
 71        0     Federico Delbonis           109.9      20   2013-09-27
 72        0     Jack Sock                   108.4      23   2013-10-17
 73        0     Sergiy Stakhovsky           107.7      28   2013-10-16
 74        0     Santiago Giraldo            104.6      41   2013-10-29
 75        0     Leonardo Mayer              103.8      31   2013-09-18
 76        0     Mikhail Kukushkin           103.2      12   2013-10-20
 77        0     Lukas Lacko                  98.9      29   2013-10-16
 78        0     Albert Montanes              98        37   2013-10-21
 79        0     Adrian Mannarino             96.8      25   2013-10-28
 80        0     Victor Hanescu               88.3      44   2013-10-21
 81        0     Martin Klizan                88.3      36   2013-10-21
 82        0     Thiemo de Bakker             87.3      19   2013-09-13
 83        0     Ricardas Berankis            80.1      27   2013-10-14
 84        0     Grega Zemlja                 79.4      34   2013-09-24
 85        0     Guillaume Rufin              78        21   2013-08-29
 86        0     Blaz Kavcic                  76.7      25   2013-07-24
 87        0     Lukasz Kubot                 76.5      30   2013-10-24
 88        0     Somdev Devvarman             76.3      23   2013-10-01
 89        0     Ryan Harrison                73.9      32   2013-10-01
 90        0     Steve Darcis                 70.7      11   2013-09-15
 91        0     David Nalbandian             69.6      11   2013-03-21
 92        0     Rajeev Ram                   67.8      15   2013-09-25
 93        0     James Duckworth              67.2      10   2013-08-28
 94        0     Ruben Bemelmans              64.2      10   2013-10-18
 95        0     Daniel Gimeno-Traver         62.6      41   2013-10-21
 96        0     Go Soeda                     61.7      26   2013-10-08
 97        0     Pablo Andujar                61.6      49   2013-10-30
 98        0     Andrey Golubev               60.4      10   2013-10-18
 99        0     James Blake                  59.8      23   2013-08-28
100        0     Aljaz Bedene                 59.3      29   2013-08-26
101        0     Frank Dancevic               59.2       7   2013-08-29
102        0     Martin Alund                 56.8      14   2013-07-11
103        0     Tatsuma Ito                  56.7      14   2013-10-07
104        0     Benjamin Becker              56.5      29   2013-10-22
105        0     David Goffin                 55.2      34   2013-08-28
106        0     Alex Bogomolov Jr.           55        14   2013-10-15
107        0     Dominic Thiem                53.3       6   2013-10-18
108        0     Xavier Malisse               50.9      32   2013-08-28
109        0     Julio Cesar Campozano        47.4       3   2013-09-13
110        0     Pablo Carreno-Busta          47        14   2013-10-22
111        0     Marcel Felder                46.7       3   2013-04-05
112        0     Jan-Lennard Struff           43.6      13   2013-10-17
113        0     Horacio Zeballos             42        38   2013-10-22
114        0     Peter Gojowczyk              41.9       2   2013-08-30
115        0     Paul Capdeville              39.9       4   2013-04-07
116        0     Mardy Fish                   39         8   2013-08-20
117        0     Pablo Cuevas                 38.2       6   2013-10-01
118        0     Stephane Robert              37.3       4   2013-08-29
119        0     Michael Berrer               36.6       5   2013-09-17
120        0     Wayne Odesnik                36.2       5   2013-06-25
121        0     Guido Pella                  36.1      20   2013-08-27
122        0     Jose Hernandez               36         2   2013-02-03
123        0     Steve Johnson                35.8      14   2013-08-27
124        0     Jan Hernych                  35.6      10   2013-07-22
125        0     James Ward                   34.9       5   2013-06-24
126        0     Maximo Gonzalez              32.8       2   2013-08-29
127        0     Dustin Brown                 30.5       5   2013-07-23
128        0     Alejandro Falla              30        37   2013-10-24
129        0     Brian Baker                  29.6       8   2013-08-28
130        0     Karen Khachanov              29.6       5   2013-10-18
131        0     Suk-Young Jeong              28.2       4   2013-09-25
132        0     Di Wu                        27.9       5   2013-10-06
133        0     Kenny De Schepper            27.6      23   2013-10-21
134        0     Markus Eriksson              26.2       4   2013-10-16
135        0     Jan Hajek                    26.2      24   2013-10-15
136        0     Matthew Ebden                25.5      17   2013-07-29
137        0     Yong-Kyu Lim                 25.1       1   2013-04-07
138        0     Christian Garin              24.4       4   2013-04-07
139        0     Min-Hyeok Cho                24.2       3   2013-04-07
140        0     Paolo Lorenzi                22.1      38   2013-10-16
141        0     Matteo Viola                 21.6      11   2013-09-25
142        0     Filip Peliwo                 20.5       2   2013-08-07
143        0     Marton Fucsovics             20.3       2   2013-09-18
144        0     Mischa Zverev                20.1       9   2013-09-26
145        0     Julian Reister               19.8       9   2013-07-16
146        0     Thomaz Bellucci              19.7      26   2013-09-15
147        0     Christian Harrison           19.6       2   2013-07-25
148        0     John Millman                 18.6       6   2013-04-30
149        0     Emilio Gomez                 18.4       5   2013-09-13
150        0     Paul-Henri Mathieu           18        28   2013-10-25
151        0     Samuel Groth                 17.8       4   2013-09-17
152        0     Teymuraz Gabashvili          16.9       4   2013-10-18
153        0     Filippo Volandri             16.7      16   2013-10-15
154        0     Nick Kyrgios                 16.4       4   2013-09-15
155        0     Denis Kudla                  15.7      16   2013-10-23
156        0     Rik De Voest                 15.1       2   2013-04-05
157        0     Farrukh Dustov               15         2   2013-04-05
158        0     Dudi Sela                    14.8      14   2013-10-17
159        0     Prakash Amritraj             14.5       4   2013-07-10
160        0     Marc Lopez                   14.4       2   2013-09-15
161        0     Chris Guccione               14.3       2   2013-07-17
162        0     Rhyne Williams               14        16   2013-08-26
163        0     Gonzalo Escobar              13         1   2013-09-15
164        0     Bobby Reynolds               12.7       6   2013-08-19
165        0     Sarvar Ikramov               12.4       1   2013-02-03
166        0     Amir Weintraub               12.2       7   2013-09-15
167        0     Tomislav Ternar              12         1   2013-02-03
168        0     Juan Sebastian Cabal         12         1   2013-04-07
169        0     Mohamed Safwat               12         2   2013-01-02
170        0     Michael Lammer               12         1   2013-09-15
171        0     Pierre-Hugues Herbert        11.9       3   2013-10-29
172        0     Martin Pedersen              11.6       1   2013-02-01
173        0     Ji Sung Nam                  11.6       1   2013-02-03
174        0     Yasutaka Uchiyama            11.6       1   2013-02-03
175        0     Miloslav Mecir               11.3       2   2013-10-17
176        0     Joachim Johansson            10.6       2   2013-10-17
177        0     Mirza Basic                  10.5       4   2013-10-16
178        0     Bradley Klahn                10         4   2013-08-29
179        0     Andrey Kuznetsov              9.6      28   2013-10-16
180        0     Marco Chiudinelli             9.3       6   2013-10-22
181        0     Jimmy Wang                    9.3       4   2013-07-15
182        0     Konstantin Kravchuk           8.9       2   2013-09-19
183        0     Philipp Petzschner            8.6       8   2013-08-27
184        0     Henri Laaksonen               8         8   2013-10-23
185        0     Michael Russell               7.1      21   2013-10-15
186        0     Peter Polansky                6.8       1   2013-08-05
187        0     Potito Starace                6.6       2   2013-05-14
188        0     Jesse Levine                  6.5      20   2013-08-07
189        0     Jurgen Zopp                   6.2       7   2013-10-14
190        0     Illya Marchenko               6.1       5   2013-07-15
191        0     Andreas Haider-Maurer         5.4      10   2013-10-15
192        0     Marco Cecchinato              5.1       1   2013-05-21
193        0     Elias Ymer                    5         1   2013-07-08
194        0     Evgeny Korolev                4.7       6   2013-07-16
195        0     Malek Jaziri                  4.6       1   2013-02-25
196        0     Robby Ginepri                 4.6       4   2013-04-12
197        0     Andre Ghem                    4.2       2   2013-05-22
198        0     Albano Olivetti               4.2       3   2013-09-19
199        0     Ruan Roelofse                 3.8       1   2013-04-07
200        0     Stephane Bohli                2.8       1   2013-06-17
201        0     Filip Krajinovic              2.3       1   2013-02-19
202        0     Simone Bolelli                2.1      15   2013-06-25
203        0     Yuichi Sugita                 2         5   2013-10-01
204        0     Alejandro Gonzalez            1.9       1   2013-07-15
205        0     Gastao Elias                  1.8       5   2013-06-25
206        0     Victor Estrella Burgos        1.7       2   2013-07-17
207        0     Niels Desein                  1.7       1   2013-04-30
208        0     Donald Young                  1.6       5   2013-08-30
209        0     Marius Copil                  1.6       9   2013-10-15
210        0     Marco Trungelliti             1.5       2   2013-02-21
211        0     Maxime Teixeira               1.4       1   2013-05-29
212        0     Stefan Kozlov                 1.3       1   2013-07-08
213        0     Riccardo Ghedin               1.3       1   2013-06-11
214        0     Pedro Sousa                   1         1   2013-04-29
215        0     Alex Kuznetsov                1         5   2013-07-31
216        0     Greg Jones                    0.8       2   2013-01-09
217        0     Younes Rachidi                0.5       1   2013-04-09
218        0     Benjamin Mitchell             0.4       2   2013-01-15
219        0     Boris Pashanski               0.4       1   2013-02-03
220        0     Guilherme Clezar              0.1       1   2013-02-12
221        0     Mariusz Fyrstenberg           0         1   2013-02-03
222        0     Maxime Authom                 0         1   2013-01-14
223        0     Robin Kern                    0         1   2013-07-09
224        0     Jorge Aguilar                 0         1   2013-02-13
225        0     Luke Saville                  0         1   2013-01-15
226        0     Roberto Quiroz                0         1   2013-09-15
227        0     Benjamin Balleret            -0.2       1   2013-04-16
228        0     Nicolas Massu                -0.3       1   2013-02-05
229        0     Borna Coric                  -0.4       2   2013-09-13
230        0     Gerard Granollers            -0.4       1   2013-04-22
231        0     Jaroslav Pospisil            -0.9       3   2013-10-17
232        0     Nils Langer                  -1.6       3   2013-10-15
233        0     Matthias Bachinger           -2.2       8   2013-07-16
234        0     Aslan Karatsev               -2.8       2   2013-10-15
235        0     Ruben Ramirez Hidalgo        -3.1       8   2013-04-12
236        0     Daniel Munoz-De La Nava      -3.3       7   2013-07-09
237        0     Vladyslav Manafov            -3.8       1   2013-09-15
238        0     Cedrik-Marcel Stebe          -3.9       5   2013-06-12
239        0     Mao-Xin Gong                 -4.2       1   2013-10-08
240        0     Laslo Djere                  -4.3       1   2013-09-23
241        0     Andreas Beck                 -4.3       2   2013-07-09
242        0     Dominic Inglot               -4.5       1   2013-09-17
243        0     Mikhail Elgin                -4.6       1   2013-09-18
244        0     Thomas Fabbiano              -4.6       1   2013-08-27
245        0     Adrian Ungur                 -4.7      11   2013-08-27
246        0     Andreas Vinciguerra          -5.7       1   2013-07-09
247        0     Ilija Bozoljac               -5.7       3   2013-10-15
248        0     Alexander Ward               -6.2       1   2013-07-09
249        0     Collin Altamirano            -6.3       1   2013-08-27
250        0     Agustin Velotti              -6.4       1   2013-02-20
251        0     Oliver Marach                -6.6       1   2013-09-13
252        0     Josko Topic                  -6.9       1   2013-07-23
253        0     Bastian Knittel              -7.4       1   2013-06-24
254        0     Kevin King                   -7.7       1   2013-07-23
255        0     Alexander Zverev             -7.8       1   2013-07-15
256        0     Cesar Ramirez                -7.8       1   2013-02-26
257        0     Guillermo Olaso              -8.1       3   2013-04-23
258        0     Romain Bogaerts              -8.5       1   2013-08-18
259        0     Mikhail Biryukov             -8.6       1   2013-09-17
260        0     Hyeon Chung                  -8.7       1   2013-09-23
261        0     Kyle Edmund                  -8.8       4   2013-06-24
262        0     Wishaya Trongcharoenchaikul  -8.8       1   2013-09-24
263        0     Jean Andersen                -8.9       1   2013-04-05
264        0     Ze Zhang                     -8.9       4   2013-10-08
265        0     Ryan Sweeting                -9.4       1   2013-02-12
266        0     Javier Marti                 -9.6       1   2013-05-06
267        0     Rodrigo Senattore            -9.9       1   2013-04-07
268        0     Roberto Carballes Baena      -9.9       1   2013-04-22
269        0     Lucas Pouille               -10         5   2013-06-18
270        0     Jesse Huta Galung           -10.1       5   2013-10-14
271        0     Carlos Salamanca            -10.2       1   2013-07-15
272        0     Victor Crivoi               -10.2       1   2013-07-23
273        0     Arnau Brugues-Davi          -10.2       3   2013-02-07
274        0     Oleksandr Nedovyesov        -10.3       1   2013-10-15
275        0     Igor Kunitsyn               -10.4       2   2013-02-25
276        0     Boy Westerhof               -10.4       1   2013-07-23
277        0     Edward Corrie               -10.5       1   2013-06-10
278        0     Igor Andreev                -10.6       1   2013-06-24
279        0     Ariel Behar                 -10.6       1   2013-04-05
280        0     Milos Sekulic               -10.6       1   2013-10-15
281        0     Aldin Setkic                -10.7       1   2013-07-30
282        0     Christopher Kas             -10.7       1   2013-02-03
283        0     Matt Reid                   -10.8       1   2013-06-24
284        0     Kevin Krawietz              -10.9       1   2013-04-29
285        0     Adrien Bossel               -11.1       1   2013-07-09
286        0     Daniel Garza                -11.1       1   2013-02-25
287        0     Christoffer Konigsfeldt     -11.2       1   2013-02-03
288        0     Thiago Alves                -11.2       2   2013-02-03
289        0     Juan Ignacio Londero        -11.2       1   2013-07-16
290        0     Mehdi Ziadi                 -11.3       1   2013-04-08
291        0     Mackenzie McDonald          -11.3       1   2013-08-12
292        0     Rui Machado                 -11.4       1   2013-04-30
293        0     Gianluca Naso               -11.4       1   2013-02-06
294        0     Rohan Bopanna               -11.4       1   2013-06-12
295        0     Temur Ismailov              -11.5       1   2013-02-03
296        0     Ante Pavic                  -11.5       1   2013-07-09
297        0     Eduardo Struvay             -11.5       1   2013-07-16
298        0     Dino Marcan                 -11.6       1   2013-02-07
299        0     Ivo Klec                    -11.6       1   2013-01-09
300        0     Thomas Kromann              -11.6       1   2013-02-03
301        0     Adrian Menendez-Maceiras    -11.7       2   2013-02-05
302        0     Denys Molchanov             -11.9       2   2013-09-15
303        0     Filip Veger                 -12         1   2013-02-05
304        0     Santiago Maresca            -12         1   2013-04-07
305        0     Jabor Mohammed Ali Mutawa   -12         1   2013-01-01
306        0     Ricardo Mello               -12         1   2013-02-11
307        0     Martin Cuevas               -12         1   2013-02-01
308        0     Roberto Cid                 -12         1   2013-02-01
309        0     Yuki Bhambri                -12         1   2012-12-31
310        0     Mousa Shanan Zayed          -12         1   2013-01-01
311        0     Nicolas Barrientos          -12.3       1   2013-07-16
312        0     Nenad Zimonjic              -12.4       1   2013-02-03
313        0     Noam Okun                   -12.4       1   2013-02-03
314        0     Daniel King-Turner          -12.4       1   2013-01-08
315        0     Nikola Mektic               -12.4       1   2013-02-05
316        0     Dennis Novak                -12.4       1   2013-07-30
317        0     Miguel Angel Reyes-Varela   -12.6       1   2013-02-25
318        0     John-Patrick Smith          -12.8       1   2013-01-15
319        0     Olivier Rochus              -12.8       7   2013-06-25
320        0     Thanasi Kokkinakis          -12.8       1   2013-01-03
321        0     Facundo Arguello            -13.6       3   2013-07-16
322        0     Martin Fischer              -15.1       3   2013-10-14
323        0     Rogerio Dutra Silva         -16.5       9   2013-09-15
324        0     Jiri Vesely                 -18.1       7   2013-10-14
325        0     Jamie Baker                 -18.1       2   2013-06-10
326        0     Diego Sebastian Schwartzman -18.7       6   2013-07-16
327        0     Bjorn Phau                  -19.3       8   2013-03-12
328        0     Gerald Melzer               -19.3       2   2013-10-15
329        0     Pere Riba                   -20.5       2   2013-05-27
330        0     Isak Arvidsson              -20.7       2   2013-04-07
331        0     Antonio Veic                -21.5       5   2013-07-29
332        0     Tsung-Hua Yang              -22         2   2013-02-03
333        0     Ranjeet Virali-Murugesan    -22.8       2   2013-02-03
334        0     Josselin Ouanna             -22.9       2   2013-04-08
335        0     Florent Serra               -23.1       4   2013-08-26
336        0     Christopher Rungkat         -23.1       2   2013-02-03
337        0     Wisnu Adi Nugroho           -23.2       2   2013-02-03
338        0     Vijayant Malik              -23.6       2   2013-02-03
339        0     Ti Chen                     -24.7       2   2013-02-03
340        0     Gilles Muller               -28.9      10   2013-05-26
341        0     Frederik Nielsen            -29.7       3   2013-08-19
342        0     Dusan Lajovic               -32         4   2013-07-23
343        0     Mate Pavic                  -32.7       4   2013-09-15
344        0     Joao Souza                  -35.1       5   2013-07-23
345        0     Andrej Martin               -35.5       3   2013-08-26
346        0     Marc Gicquel                -45.2       5   2013-09-17
347        0     Flavio Cipolla              -64.7      11   2013-07-09
G.100sic is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2013, 01:12 PM   #100
country flag G.100sic
Registered User
 
G.100sic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Age: 52
Posts: 382
G.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Alternative player ranking system

Now we can take some time for the analysis.
The best 2 are NID, they stand out by the mile from the rest. Nadal is nearly 100 points behind Novak, although he has played just 5 less matches, and that difference is mostly because he missed the AO.
Then, Murray and Del Potro have distinguished themselves at #3 and 4, but Murray played for only 2/3 of the season so obviously he would have been much closer to the #1 and 2.
Then within 30 points is the group of Federer, Berdych, Ferrer and Wawrinka, with similar situation with Federer who also only played 58 matches, quite below average for the group.
G.100sic is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2013, 06:01 PM   #101
country flag G.100sic
Registered User
 
G.100sic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Age: 52
Posts: 382
G.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Alternative player ranking system

The last update for the 2013 season.
As I anticipated, Berdych could not finish in front of Federer. He needed to take at least one set off of Djokovic for it to happen.
Only Stepanek managed to capitalize, moving 9 places up.
So here it is, my final "race" ranking for the 2013:
Code:
"Race" Positions                             Elo    Matches  Last match
rank   moved     Player                      points played   date
  1        0     Novak Djokovic              759.4      89   2013-11-17
  2        0     Rafael Nadal                636.8      82   2013-11-11
  3        0     Juan Martin Del Potro       507.5      70   2013-11-09
  4        0     Andy Murray                 494.6      52   2013-09-15
  5        0     Roger Federer               462.6      62   2013-11-10
  6        0     Tomas Berdych               458.9      83   2013-11-17
  7        0     David Ferrer                441.3      87   2013-11-08
  8        0     Stanislas Wawrinka          430.9      73   2013-11-10
  9        0     Richard Gasquet             411.9      73   2013-11-09
 10        0     Mikhail Youzhny             380        63   2013-10-29
 11        0     Milos Raonic                370.3      69   2013-10-31
 12        0     Tommy Haas                  362.8      71   2013-10-30
 13        0     John Isner                  356.9      64   2013-10-31
 14        0     Jo-Wilfried Tsonga          353.1      58   2013-10-29
 15        0     Tommy Robredo               333.5      56   2013-10-09
 16        0     Fernando Verdasco           315.3      56   2013-10-29
 17        0     Ivan Dodig                  303.2      62   2013-10-30
 18        0     Fabio Fognini               300.2      70   2013-10-30
 19        0     Philipp Kohlschreiber       295.3      57   2013-10-31
 20        0     Nicolas Almagro             295        67   2013-10-31
 21        0     Ernests Gulbis              289.1      50   2013-10-28
 22        0     Kei Nishikori               288.7      56   2013-10-31
 23        0     Jerzy Janowicz              283.5      47   2013-10-31
 24        0     Grigor Dimitrov             281.7      58   2013-10-31
 25        0     Lleyton Hewitt              271.3      45   2013-10-15
 26        0     Gael Monfils                271        55   2013-10-23
 27        0     Feliciano Lopez             262.4      49   2013-10-30
 28        0     Marin Cilic                 252.7      38   2013-10-30
 29        0     Kevin Anderson              245        62   2013-10-30
 30        0     Dmitry Tursunov             239.2      52   2013-10-29
 31        0     Robin Haase                 237.2      56   2013-10-30
 32        0     Gilles Simon                234.3      60   2013-10-31
 33        0     Marcel Granollers           230.9      51   2013-10-30
 34        0     Vasek Pospisil              226.4      35   2013-10-29
 35        0     Sam Querrey                 225.2      49   2013-10-07
 36        0     Florian Mayer               224.9      55   2013-10-23
 37        0     Denis Istomin               222        61   2013-10-28
 38        0     Andreas Seppi               217.3      62   2013-10-28
 39        0     Bernard Tomic               213.4      50   2013-10-28
 40        0     Julien Benneteau            208.2      52   2013-10-28
 41        0     Roberto Bautista Agut       199.7      48   2013-10-23
 42        0     Jurgen Melzer               199.7      52   2013-10-09
 43        0     Jarkko Nieminen             191.3      57   2013-10-29
 44        0     Carlos Berlocq              186.7      52   2013-10-22
 45        0     Juan Monaco                 184.1      48   2013-09-30
 46        0     Nicolas Mahut               182.9      24   2013-10-30
 47        0     Benoit Paire                177.7      62   2013-10-28
 48        0     Lukas Rosol                 173        50   2013-10-30
 49        0     Alexandr Dolgopolov         168.6      51   2013-10-29
 50        0     Jeremy Chardy               165.2      47   2013-10-28
 51        0     Daniel Brands               161.2      47   2013-10-25
 52        0     Igor Sijsling               150.7      44   2013-10-28
 53        9     Radek Stepanek              150.1      33   2013-11-17
 54       -1     Viktor Troicki              147.8      38   2013-07-25
 55       -1     Ivo Karlovic                145        28   2013-10-24
 56       -1     Edouard Roger-Vasselin      144.7      49   2013-10-29
 57       -1     Guillermo Garcia-Lopez      144.2      42   2013-10-22
 58       -1     Joao Sousa                  143.5      27   2013-10-24
 59       -1     Yen-Hsun Lu                 143.1      34   2013-10-01
 60       -1     Marcos Baghdatis            142.5      39   2013-10-24
 61       -1     Marinko Matosevic           134        43   2013-10-03
 62       -1     Evgeny Donskoy              133.2      33   2013-10-17
 63        0     Janko Tipsarevic            127.5      48   2013-10-21
 64        0     Daniel Evans                122.4      10   2013-09-15
 65        0     Tim Smyczek                 119.1      19   2013-09-01
 66        0     Michal Przysiezny           118.8      23   2013-10-30
 67        0     Tobias Kamke                115.7      39   2013-10-24
 68        0     Michael Llodra              115.7      26   2013-10-29
 69        0     Albert Ramos                112.9      43   2013-10-14
 70        0     Nikolay Davydenko           112.4      44   2013-10-01
 71        0     Federico Delbonis           109.9      20   2013-09-27
 72        0     Jack Sock                   108.4      23   2013-10-17
 73        0     Sergiy Stakhovsky           107.7      28   2013-10-16
 74        0     Santiago Giraldo            104.6      41   2013-10-29
 75        0     Leonardo Mayer              103.8      31   2013-09-18
 76        0     Mikhail Kukushkin           103.2      12   2013-10-20
 77        0     Lukas Lacko                  98.9      29   2013-10-16
 78        0     Albert Montanes              98        37   2013-10-21
 79        0     Adrian Mannarino             96.8      25   2013-10-28
 80        0     Victor Hanescu               88.3      44   2013-10-21
 81        0     Martin Klizan                88.3      36   2013-10-21
 82        0     Thiemo de Bakker             87.3      19   2013-09-13
 83        0     Ricardas Berankis            80.1      27   2013-10-14
 84        0     Grega Zemlja                 79.4      34   2013-09-24
 85        0     Guillaume Rufin              78        21   2013-08-29
 86        0     Blaz Kavcic                  76.7      25   2013-07-24
 87        0     Lukasz Kubot                 76.5      30   2013-10-24
 88        0     Somdev Devvarman             76.3      23   2013-10-01
 89        0     Ryan Harrison                73.9      32   2013-10-01
 90        0     Steve Darcis                 70.7      11   2013-09-15
 91        0     David Nalbandian             69.6      11   2013-03-21
 92        0     Rajeev Ram                   67.8      15   2013-09-25
 93        0     James Duckworth              67.2      10   2013-08-28
 94        0     Ruben Bemelmans              64.2      10   2013-10-18
 95        0     Daniel Gimeno-Traver         62.6      41   2013-10-21
 96        0     Go Soeda                     61.7      26   2013-10-08
 97        0     Pablo Andujar                61.6      49   2013-10-30
 98        0     Andrey Golubev               60.4      10   2013-10-18
 99        0     James Blake                  59.8      23   2013-08-28
100        0     Aljaz Bedene                 59.3      29   2013-08-26
101        0     Frank Dancevic               59.2       7   2013-08-29
102        0     Martin Alund                 56.8      14   2013-07-11
103        0     Tatsuma Ito                  56.7      14   2013-10-07
104        0     Benjamin Becker              56.5      29   2013-10-22
105        0     David Goffin                 55.2      34   2013-08-28
106        0     Alex Bogomolov Jr.           55        14   2013-10-15
107        0     Dominic Thiem                53.3       6   2013-10-18
108        0     Xavier Malisse               50.9      32   2013-08-28
109        0     Julio Cesar Campozano        47.4       3   2013-09-13
110        0     Pablo Carreno-Busta          47        14   2013-10-22
111        0     Marcel Felder                46.7       3   2013-04-05
112        0     Jan-Lennard Struff           43.6      13   2013-10-17
113        0     Horacio Zeballos             42        38   2013-10-22
114        0     Peter Gojowczyk              41.9       2   2013-08-30
115        0     Paul Capdeville              39.9       4   2013-04-07
116        0     Mardy Fish                   39         8   2013-08-20
117        0     Pablo Cuevas                 38.2       6   2013-10-01
118        0     Stephane Robert              37.3       4   2013-08-29
119        0     Michael Berrer               36.6       5   2013-09-17
120        0     Wayne Odesnik                36.2       5   2013-06-25
121        0     Guido Pella                  36.1      20   2013-08-27
122        0     Jose Hernandez               36         2   2013-02-03
123        0     Steve Johnson                35.8      14   2013-08-27
124        0     Jan Hernych                  35.6      10   2013-07-22
125        0     James Ward                   34.9       5   2013-06-24
126        0     Maximo Gonzalez              32.8       2   2013-08-29
127        0     Dustin Brown                 30.5       5   2013-07-23
128        0     Alejandro Falla              30        37   2013-10-24
129        0     Brian Baker                  29.6       8   2013-08-28
130        0     Karen Khachanov              29.6       5   2013-10-18
131        0     Suk-Young Jeong              28.2       4   2013-09-25
132        0     Di Wu                        27.9       5   2013-10-06
133        0     Kenny De Schepper            27.6      23   2013-10-21
134        0     Markus Eriksson              26.2       4   2013-10-16
135        0     Jan Hajek                    26.2      24   2013-10-15
136        0     Matthew Ebden                25.5      17   2013-07-29
137        0     Yong-Kyu Lim                 25.1       1   2013-04-07
138        0     Christian Garin              24.4       4   2013-04-07
139        0     Min-Hyeok Cho                24.2       3   2013-04-07
140        0     Paolo Lorenzi                22.1      38   2013-10-16
141        0     Matteo Viola                 21.6      11   2013-09-25
142        0     Filip Peliwo                 20.5       2   2013-08-07
143        0     Marton Fucsovics             20.3       2   2013-09-18
144        0     Mischa Zverev                20.1       9   2013-09-26
145        0     Julian Reister               19.8       9   2013-07-16
146        0     Thomaz Bellucci              19.7      26   2013-09-15
147        0     Christian Harrison           19.6       2   2013-07-25
148        0     John Millman                 18.6       6   2013-04-30
149        0     Emilio Gomez                 18.4       5   2013-09-13
150        0     Paul-Henri Mathieu           18        28   2013-10-25
151        0     Samuel Groth                 17.8       4   2013-09-17
152        0     Teymuraz Gabashvili          16.9       4   2013-10-18
153        0     Filippo Volandri             16.7      16   2013-10-15
154        0     Nick Kyrgios                 16.4       4   2013-09-15
155        0     Denis Kudla                  15.7      16   2013-10-23
156        0     Rik De Voest                 15.1       2   2013-04-05
157        0     Farrukh Dustov               15         2   2013-04-05
158        0     Dudi Sela                    14.8      14   2013-10-17
159        0     Prakash Amritraj             14.5       4   2013-07-10
160        0     Marc Lopez                   14.4       2   2013-09-15
161        0     Chris Guccione               14.3       2   2013-07-17
162        0     Rhyne Williams               14        16   2013-08-26
163        0     Gonzalo Escobar              13         1   2013-09-15
164        0     Bobby Reynolds               12.7       6   2013-08-19
165        0     Sarvar Ikramov               12.4       1   2013-02-03
166        0     Amir Weintraub               12.2       7   2013-09-15
167        0     Tomislav Ternar              12         1   2013-02-03
168        0     Juan Sebastian Cabal         12         1   2013-04-07
169        0     Mohamed Safwat               12         2   2013-01-02
170        0     Michael Lammer               12         1   2013-09-15
171        0     Pierre-Hugues Herbert        11.9       3   2013-10-29
172        0     Martin Pedersen              11.6       1   2013-02-01
173        0     Ji Sung Nam                  11.6       1   2013-02-03
174        0     Yasutaka Uchiyama            11.6       1   2013-02-03
175        0     Miloslav Mecir               11.3       2   2013-10-17
176        0     Joachim Johansson            10.6       2   2013-10-17
177        0     Mirza Basic                  10.5       4   2013-10-16
178        0     Bradley Klahn                10         4   2013-08-29
179        0     Andrey Kuznetsov              9.6      28   2013-10-16
180        0     Marco Chiudinelli             9.3       6   2013-10-22
181        0     Jimmy Wang                    9.3       4   2013-07-15
182        0     Konstantin Kravchuk           8.9       2   2013-09-19
183        0     Philipp Petzschner            8.6       8   2013-08-27
184        0     Henri Laaksonen               8         8   2013-10-23
185        0     Michael Russell               7.1      21   2013-10-15
186        0     Peter Polansky                6.8       1   2013-08-05
187        0     Potito Starace                6.6       2   2013-05-14
188        0     Jesse Levine                  6.5      20   2013-08-07
189        0     Jurgen Zopp                   6.2       7   2013-10-14
190        0     Illya Marchenko               6.1       5   2013-07-15
191        0     Andreas Haider-Maurer         5.4      10   2013-10-15
192        0     Marco Cecchinato              5.1       1   2013-05-21
193        0     Elias Ymer                    5         1   2013-07-08
194        0     Evgeny Korolev                4.7       6   2013-07-16
195        0     Malek Jaziri                  4.6       1   2013-02-25
196        0     Robby Ginepri                 4.6       4   2013-04-12
197        0     Andre Ghem                    4.2       2   2013-05-22
198        0     Albano Olivetti               4.2       3   2013-09-19
199        0     Ruan Roelofse                 3.8       1   2013-04-07
200        0     Stephane Bohli                2.8       1   2013-06-17
201        0     Filip Krajinovic              2.3       1   2013-02-19
202        0     Simone Bolelli                2.1      15   2013-06-25
203        0     Yuichi Sugita                 2         5   2013-10-01
204        0     Alejandro Gonzalez            1.9       1   2013-07-15
205        0     Gastao Elias                  1.8       5   2013-06-25
206        0     Victor Estrella Burgos        1.7       2   2013-07-17
207        0     Niels Desein                  1.7       1   2013-04-30
208        0     Donald Young                  1.6       5   2013-08-30
209        0     Marius Copil                  1.6       9   2013-10-15
210        0     Marco Trungelliti             1.5       2   2013-02-21
211        0     Maxime Teixeira               1.4       1   2013-05-29
212        0     Stefan Kozlov                 1.3       1   2013-07-08
213        0     Riccardo Ghedin               1.3       1   2013-06-11
214        0     Pedro Sousa                   1         1   2013-04-29
215        0     Alex Kuznetsov                1         5   2013-07-31
216        0     Greg Jones                    0.8       2   2013-01-09
217        0     Younes Rachidi                0.5       1   2013-04-09
218        0     Benjamin Mitchell             0.4       2   2013-01-15
219        0     Boris Pashanski               0.4       1   2013-02-03
220        0     Guilherme Clezar              0.1       1   2013-02-12
221        0     Mariusz Fyrstenberg           0         1   2013-02-03
222        0     Maxime Authom                 0         1   2013-01-14
223        0     Robin Kern                    0         1   2013-07-09
224        0     Jorge Aguilar                 0         1   2013-02-13
225        0     Luke Saville                  0         1   2013-01-15
226        0     Roberto Quiroz                0         1   2013-09-15
227        0     Benjamin Balleret            -0.2       1   2013-04-16
228        0     Nicolas Massu                -0.3       1   2013-02-05
229        0     Borna Coric                  -0.4       2   2013-09-13
230        0     Gerard Granollers            -0.4       1   2013-04-22
231        0     Jaroslav Pospisil            -0.9       3   2013-10-17
232        0     Nils Langer                  -1.6       3   2013-10-15
233        0     Matthias Bachinger           -2.2       8   2013-07-16
234        0     Aslan Karatsev               -2.8       2   2013-10-15
235        0     Ruben Ramirez Hidalgo        -3.1       8   2013-04-12
236        0     Daniel Munoz-De La Nava      -3.3       7   2013-07-09
237        0     Vladyslav Manafov            -3.8       1   2013-09-15
238        0     Cedrik-Marcel Stebe          -3.9       5   2013-06-12
239        0     Mao-Xin Gong                 -4.2       1   2013-10-08
240        0     Laslo Djere                  -4.3       1   2013-09-23
241        0     Andreas Beck                 -4.3       2   2013-07-09
242        0     Dominic Inglot               -4.5       1   2013-09-17
243        0     Mikhail Elgin                -4.6       1   2013-09-18
244        0     Thomas Fabbiano              -4.6       1   2013-08-27
245        0     Adrian Ungur                 -4.7      11   2013-08-27
246        0     Andreas Vinciguerra          -5.7       1   2013-07-09
247        0     Ilija Bozoljac               -5.7       3   2013-10-15
248        0     Alexander Ward               -6.2       1   2013-07-09
249        0     Collin Altamirano            -6.3       1   2013-08-27
250        0     Agustin Velotti              -6.4       1   2013-02-20
251        0     Oliver Marach                -6.6       1   2013-09-13
252        0     Josko Topic                  -6.9       1   2013-07-23
253        0     Bastian Knittel              -7.4       1   2013-06-24
254        0     Kevin King                   -7.7       1   2013-07-23
255        0     Alexander Zverev             -7.8       1   2013-07-15
256        0     Cesar Ramirez                -7.8       1   2013-02-26
257        0     Guillermo Olaso              -8.1       3   2013-04-23
258        0     Romain Bogaerts              -8.5       1   2013-08-18
259        0     Mikhail Biryukov             -8.6       1   2013-09-17
260        0     Hyeon Chung                  -8.7       1   2013-09-23
261        0     Kyle Edmund                  -8.8       4   2013-06-24
262        0     Wishaya Trongcharoenchaikul  -8.8       1   2013-09-24
263        0     Jean Andersen                -8.9       1   2013-04-05
264        0     Ze Zhang                     -8.9       4   2013-10-08
265        0     Ryan Sweeting                -9.4       1   2013-02-12
266        0     Javier Marti                 -9.6       1   2013-05-06
267        0     Rodrigo Senattore            -9.9       1   2013-04-07
268        0     Roberto Carballes Baena      -9.9       1   2013-04-22
269        0     Lucas Pouille               -10         5   2013-06-18
270        0     Jesse Huta Galung           -10.1       5   2013-10-14
271        0     Carlos Salamanca            -10.2       1   2013-07-15
272        0     Victor Crivoi               -10.2       1   2013-07-23
273        0     Arnau Brugues-Davi          -10.2       3   2013-02-07
274        0     Oleksandr Nedovyesov        -10.3       1   2013-10-15
275        0     Igor Kunitsyn               -10.4       2   2013-02-25
276        0     Boy Westerhof               -10.4       1   2013-07-23
277        0     Edward Corrie               -10.5       1   2013-06-10
278        0     Igor Andreev                -10.6       1   2013-06-24
279        0     Ariel Behar                 -10.6       1   2013-04-05
280        0     Milos Sekulic               -10.6       1   2013-10-15
281        0     Aldin Setkic                -10.7       1   2013-07-30
282        0     Christopher Kas             -10.7       1   2013-02-03
283        0     Matt Reid                   -10.8       1   2013-06-24
284        0     Kevin Krawietz              -10.9       1   2013-04-29
285        0     Adrien Bossel               -11.1       1   2013-07-09
286        0     Daniel Garza                -11.1       1   2013-02-25
287        0     Christoffer Konigsfeldt     -11.2       1   2013-02-03
288        0     Thiago Alves                -11.2       2   2013-02-03
289        0     Juan Ignacio Londero        -11.2       1   2013-07-16
290        0     Mehdi Ziadi                 -11.3       1   2013-04-08
291        0     Mackenzie McDonald          -11.3       1   2013-08-12
292        0     Rui Machado                 -11.4       1   2013-04-30
293        0     Gianluca Naso               -11.4       1   2013-02-06
294        0     Rohan Bopanna               -11.4       1   2013-06-12
295        0     Temur Ismailov              -11.5       1   2013-02-03
296        0     Ante Pavic                  -11.5       1   2013-07-09
297        0     Eduardo Struvay             -11.5       1   2013-07-16
298        0     Dino Marcan                 -11.6       1   2013-02-07
299        0     Ivo Klec                    -11.6       1   2013-01-09
300        0     Thomas Kromann              -11.6       1   2013-02-03
301        0     Adrian Menendez-Maceiras    -11.7       2   2013-02-05
302        0     Denys Molchanov             -11.9       2   2013-09-15
303        0     Filip Veger                 -12         1   2013-02-05
304        0     Santiago Maresca            -12         1   2013-04-07
305        0     Jabor Mohammed Ali Mutawa   -12         1   2013-01-01
306        0     Ricardo Mello               -12         1   2013-02-11
307        0     Martin Cuevas               -12         1   2013-02-01
308        0     Roberto Cid                 -12         1   2013-02-01
309        0     Yuki Bhambri                -12         1   2012-12-31
310        0     Mousa Shanan Zayed          -12         1   2013-01-01
311        0     Nicolas Barrientos          -12.3       1   2013-07-16
312        0     Nenad Zimonjic              -12.4       1   2013-02-03
313        0     Noam Okun                   -12.4       1   2013-02-03
314        0     Daniel King-Turner          -12.4       1   2013-01-08
315        0     Nikola Mektic               -12.4       1   2013-02-05
316        0     Dennis Novak                -12.4       1   2013-07-30
317        0     Miguel Angel Reyes-Varela   -12.6       1   2013-02-25
318        0     John-Patrick Smith          -12.8       1   2013-01-15
319        0     Olivier Rochus              -12.8       7   2013-06-25
320        0     Thanasi Kokkinakis          -12.8       1   2013-01-03
321        0     Facundo Arguello            -13.6       3   2013-07-16
322        0     Martin Fischer              -15.1       3   2013-10-14
323        0     Rogerio Dutra Silva         -16.5       9   2013-09-15
324        0     Jiri Vesely                 -18.1       7   2013-10-14
325        0     Jamie Baker                 -18.1       2   2013-06-10
326        0     Diego Sebastian Schwartzman -18.7       6   2013-07-16
327        0     Bjorn Phau                  -19.3       8   2013-03-12
328        0     Gerald Melzer               -19.3       2   2013-10-15
329        0     Pere Riba                   -20.5       2   2013-05-27
330        0     Isak Arvidsson              -20.7       2   2013-04-07
331        0     Antonio Veic                -21.5       5   2013-07-29
332        0     Tsung-Hua Yang              -22         2   2013-02-03
333        0     Ranjeet Virali-Murugesan    -22.8       2   2013-02-03
334        0     Josselin Ouanna             -22.9       2   2013-04-08
335        0     Florent Serra               -23.1       4   2013-08-26
336        0     Christopher Rungkat         -23.1       2   2013-02-03
337        0     Wisnu Adi Nugroho           -23.2       2   2013-02-03
338        0     Vijayant Malik              -23.6       2   2013-02-03
339        0     Ti Chen                     -24.7       2   2013-02-03
340        0     Gilles Muller               -28.9      10   2013-05-26
341        0     Frederik Nielsen            -29.7       3   2013-08-19
342        1     Mate Pavic                  -32.7       4   2013-09-15
343        1     Joao Souza                  -35.1       5   2013-07-23
344        1     Andrej Martin               -35.5       3   2013-08-26
345       -3     Dusan Lajovic               -40.1       6   2013-11-17
346        0     Marc Gicquel                -45.2       5   2013-09-17
347        0     Flavio Cipolla              -64.7      11   2013-07-09
G.100sic is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2013, 06:21 PM   #102
country flag G.100sic
Registered User
 
G.100sic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Age: 52
Posts: 382
G.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Alternative player ranking system

The total number of players who played this season was 347. But just 244 of those played more then 1 match.
The absolute difference in points between the first (Djokovic) and the last (Cipolla) is 824.1.
For the illustration, with the K=24 which I adopted, the bordering difference in points where the higher ranked player does not gain any points in win over the lower ranked one is 1073. That is, if a player has 1073 points more then his opponent, win over him earns him 0 points.
G.100sic is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2014, 07:32 PM   #103
country flag G.100sic
Registered User
 
G.100sic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Age: 52
Posts: 382
G.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Alternative player ranking system

To all awaiting, I apologize for the absence, due to some personal unfortunate events I was unable to continue my work on the rankings. But now I'm catching up with the backlog, and hopefully I'll be able to publish the race rank list for the first 2 weeks of 2014 season.

I decided to make some changes in the list of the events I take into account, particularly the Kooyong exhibition had to go from the list, mainly due to its "volatile" participants structure. I will keep the Abu Dhabi exho, though, and it will be included in the ranking in Week 0 list, along with Hopman Cup, and ATP250 tournaments in Brisbane, Qatar and Chennai.

I also decided to change the way Elo points are calculated for matches in the BO5 format, since I discovered an issue (inconsistency with the spirit of the Elo ranking, IMHO) in my previous calculations. I (wrongfully) assumed that multiplying the result of the match by 1.5 to compensate for the BO5 was the same as having the K-factor multiplied by 1.5, but that was leading to points inflation. For example, in Elo system if the difference in ranking points between two contestants is large enough, higher ranked player would gain no points from victory, but by my previous calculations he would still gain full 12 points in such situation. So I decided to correct this by increasing the K-factor to 36 for BO5 format events, such as GS and DK.

There is also a work left in my TODO list for the Elo system alternative for the ATP rolling 52 week ranking.

Late Season's Greetings to all!
G.100sic is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2014, 08:27 PM   #104
country flag G.100sic
Registered User
 
G.100sic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Age: 52
Posts: 382
G.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Alternative player ranking system

So here is the first update for the 2014 season - week 1, or better say weeks 0 and -1 ( Abu Dhabi exho, Hopman Cup, and ATP250 tournaments in Brisbane, Qatar and Chennai):
Code:
"Race" Positions                             Elo    Matches  Last match
rank   moved     Player                      points played   date
  1        0     Rafael Nadal                 60.8       7   2014-01-04
  2        0     Lleyton Hewitt               59.2       5   2014-01-05
  3        0     Gael Monfils                 48         5   2014-01-04
  4        0     Roger Federer                37.6       4   2014-01-05
  5        0     Peter Gojowczyk              36         4   2014-01-03
  6        0     Jeremy Chardy                35.6       4   2014-01-04
  7        0     Marcel Granollers            35.6       4   2014-01-04
  8        0     Jo-Wilfried Tsonga           34.9       7   2014-01-04
  9        0     Edouard Roger-Vasselin       34.5       5   2014-01-05
 10        0     Stanislas Wawrinka           27.9       6   2014-01-05
 11        0     Kei Nishikori                25.2       3   2014-01-04
 12        0     Novak Djokovic               24.8       2   2013-12-28
 13        0     Victor Hanescu               24         3   2014-01-02
 14        0     Dustin Brown                 24         3   2014-01-02
 15        0     Florian Mayer                24         4   2014-01-03
 16        0     Marin Cilic                  23.6       3   2014-01-03
 17        0     Bernard Tomic                12.8       3   2014-01-02
 18        0     Benoit Paire                 12.8       2   2014-01-03
 19        0     Daniel Brands                12.4       3   2014-01-02
 20        0     Alexander Kudryavtsev        12         2   2014-01-01
 21        0     Nicolas Mahut                12         2   2014-01-02
 22        0     Sam Querrey                  12         2   2014-01-01
 23        0     Ernests Gulbis               12         3   2014-01-02
 24        0     Lukasz Kubot                 12         2   2014-01-01
 25        0     Tobias Kamke                 12         2   2014-01-01
 26        0     Fernando Verdasco            12         2   2014-01-01
 27        0     Yen-Hsun Lu                  12         1   2013-12-30
 28        0     Ivo Karlovic                 12         2   2014-01-01
 29        0     Dudi Sela                    12         3   2014-01-03
 30        0     Andy Murray                  12         4   2014-01-01
 31        0     Samuel Groth                 11.6       3   2014-01-03
 32        0     Grzegorz Panfil              11.6       4   2014-01-04
 33        0     Marinko Matosevic            11.6       3   2014-01-03
 34        0     Vasek Pospisil               11.6       3   2014-01-04
 35        0     Milos Raonic                 11.6       3   2014-01-02
 36        0     Marius Copil                 11.6       3   2014-01-03
 37        0     Yuki Bhambri                 11.2       3   2014-01-03
 38        0     David Ferrer                 10.4       5   2014-01-01
 39        0     Alexandr Dolgopolov           0.4       1   2013-12-31
 40        0     Pierre-Hugues Herbert         0.4       1   2014-01-02
 41        0     Feliciano Lopez               0         2   2014-01-02
 42        0     Henri Laaksonen               0         1   2013-12-31
 43        0     Jiri Vesely                   0         2   2014-01-01
 44        0     Roberto Bautista Agut         0         1   2013-12-31
 45        0     Ramkumar Ramanathan           0         2   2014-01-02
 46        0     Michal Przysiezny             0         1   2013-12-31
 47        0     Grigor Dimitrov               0         2   2014-01-01
 48        0     Julien Benneteau              0         1   2013-12-30
 49        0     Daniel Evans                  0         1   2013-12-31
 50        0     Philipp Kohlschreiber         0         2   2014-01-01
 51        0     Denis Istomin                 0         1   2013-12-30
 52        0     Radu Albot                    0         1   2013-12-31
 53        0     Yuichi Sugita                 0         1   2013-12-31
 54        0     Igor Sijsling                 0         1   2013-12-31
 55        0     Richard Gasquet               0         2   2014-01-01
 56        0     Somdev Devvarman              0         1   2013-12-31
 57        0     Jarkko Nieminen              -0.4       2   2014-01-01
 58        0     Guillermo Garcia-Lopez       -0.4       2   2014-01-02
 59        0     Matthew Ebden                -0.4       2   2014-01-01
 60        0     Aljaz Bedene                 -0.8       3   2014-01-03
 61        0     John Isner                   -0.8       2   2014-01-01
 62        0     Radek Stepanek               -0.9       2   2013-12-30
 63        0     Benjamin Becker              -1.2       2   2014-01-01
 64        0     Mikhail Youzhny             -11.6       1   2014-01-01
 65        0     Fabio Fognini               -11.6       1   2014-01-02
 66        0     Gilles Simon                -11.6       1   2014-01-02
 67        0     Tim Smyczek                 -12         1   2013-12-30
 68        0     Jeevan Nedunchezhiyan       -12         1   2013-12-30
 69        0     Adrian Mannarino            -12         1   2013-12-31
 70        0     Kyle Edmund                 -12         1   2013-12-30
 71        0     Malek Jaziri                -12         1   2013-12-30
 72        0     Lukas Rosol                 -12         1   2013-12-31
 73        0     Joao Sousa                  -12         1   2013-12-30
 74        0     Robin Haase                 -12         1   2013-12-30
 75        0     Lukas Lacko                 -12         1   2013-12-30
 76        0     Aleksandr Nedovyesov        -12         1   2013-12-31
 77        0     Dmitry Tursunov             -12         1   2013-12-30
 78        0     Ivan Dodig                  -12         1   2013-12-31
 79        0     Pablo Carreno-Busta         -12         1   2013-12-31
 80        0     Pablo Andujar               -12         1   2013-12-31
 81        0     Tomas Berdych               -12         1   2013-12-30
 82        0     Daniel Gimeno-Traver        -12         1   2013-12-30
 83        0     James Duckworth             -12         1   2013-12-30
 84        0     Nikolay Davydenko           -12         1   2013-12-31
 85        0     Albert Ramos                -12         1   2013-12-31
 86        0     Ryan Harrison               -12         1   2013-12-31
 87        0     Dominic Thiem               -12         1   2013-12-31
 88        0     Karim Hossam                -12         1   2013-12-31
 89        0     Thanasi Kokkinakis          -12         1   2013-12-31
 90        0     Santiago Giraldo            -12         1   2013-12-30
 91        0     Filippo Volandri            -12         1   2013-12-30
 92        0     Alex Kuznetsov              -12         1   2013-12-31
 93        0     Julian Reister              -12         1   2013-12-31
 94        0     Mousa Shanan Zayed          -12         1   2013-12-31
 95        0     Mikhail Kukushkin           -12         1   2013-12-31
 96        0     Daniel Munoz-De La Nava     -22.4       3   2014-01-03
 97        0     Andreas Seppi               -23.6       3   2014-01-02
G.100sic is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2014, 08:28 PM   #105
country flag G.100sic
Registered User
 
G.100sic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Age: 52
Posts: 382
G.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond reputeG.100sic has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Alternative player ranking system

I haven't had that much work on the data itself, I spent most of the time reworking the database in the background.
G.100sic is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios