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Old 07-22-2013, 09:30 PM   #136
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I don't give a shit about your definition of an orgy, the fact is these creatures are having sex in a public space, city street.
edit: you said I was lying, now everyone can see that you are the real liar.
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:49 PM   #138
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The last refuge of a homosexual when left without arguments. Accuse the opposing side that he is a closet case. How's that working for you?
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:52 PM   #139
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I don't give a shit about your definition of an orgy, the fact is these creatures are having sex in a public space, city street.
edit: you said I was lying, now everyone can see that you are the real liar.
You first used the word orgy, and your evidence simply isn't an orgy.

'Having sex in a public space' happens all the time and both gay and straight people engage in it. That you would have relatively more of these isolated acts occurring during a pride festival (or music festival for that matter) is not surprising and most people who don't have sexual hang-ups simply don't care about this kind of thing; it also doesn't make it an 'orgy'. OTOH, an actual orgy with groups of people fucking in the street would NOT be tolerated, and that's what you initially accused San Francisco of hosting.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:02 PM   #140
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You first used the word orgy, and your evidence simply isn't an orgy.

'Having sex in a public space' happens all the time and both gay and straight people engage in it. That you would have relatively more of these isolated acts occurring during a pride festival (or music festival for that matter) is not surprising and most people who don't have sexual hang-ups simply don't care about this kind of thing; it also doesn't make it an 'orgy'. OTOH, an actual orgy with groups of people fucking in the street would NOT be tolerated, and that's what you initially accused San Francisco of hosting.
You are just playing dumb now. On the links I posted you can clearly see a group of people having (oral) sex. Not only they are tolerated, they are PROTECTED by the police.
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The last refuge of a homosexual when left without arguments. Accuse the opposing side that he is a closet case. How's that working for you?
I'm not the one searching for and sharing pictures of men swapping blowjobs.
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I didn't have to search them. Those pics are not from a porn site, but from sites that are working to counter gay agenda.
I'm sorry I had to post those links, because they are disgusting, but I had to prove you a liar.
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You are just playing dumb now. On the links I posted you can clearly see a group of people having (oral) sex. Not only they are tolerated, they are PROTECTED by the police.
You'll have to pardon for me not analyzing those photos in detail. But I did see the oral sex. Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I expect some penetration in an orgy, not to mention more than three people at a time. The shit you're linking to is incredibly tame, and to claim there are 'street gay orgies in San Francisco' and then link to a few guys giving blowjobs on a corner as your evidence is weak.
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The fact that Echoes was banned clearly demonstrates that there are double standards here, several threads exist which sanction attacking the very identity of a group of individuals (ie the catholic church). From what I gather, his words were not any more hateful than the comments found in those threads. Spiritual or religious identity is not any less real, or less valuable, than sexual identity. What's even more ironic is that the logical conclusions that he apparently made (I never read them first hand), are the opinions of billions of people around the world!

Second, his banning violates the spirit of one of the rules regarding posting a thread, that is, you have to allow for various opinions without fear of being punished. There can be only 2 different types of answers in response to the thread title: either you are for or against. Echoes was against, he explained why, and he was banned. Probably banned without a warning as well. Was he essentially trolled? Did he merely state his personal opinions to what he felt the thread title was implying?

Now, considering the fact that this forum is private, the powers that be can make it into whatever they want it to be, but if they want it to be fair, there's still a lot of work to be done (training?). CENSORSHIP becomes a monster when it's the result of moderating BIAS and/or POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.
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The fact that Echoes was banned clearly demonstrates that there are double standards here, several threads exist which sanction attacking the very identity of a group of individuals (ie the catholic church). From what I gather, his words were not any more hateful than the comments found in those threads. Spiritual or religious identity is not any less real, or less valuable, than sexual identity. What's even more ironic is that the logical conclusions that he apparently made (I never read them first hand), are the opinions of billions of people around the world!

Second, his banning violates the spirit of one of the rules regarding posting a thread, that is, you have to allow for various opinions without fear of being punished. There can be only 2 different types of answers in response to the thread title: either you are for or against. Echoes was against, he explained why, and he was banned. Probably banned without a warning as well. Was he essentially trolled? Did he merely state his personal opinions to what he felt the thread title was implying?

Now, considering the fact that this forum is private, the powers that be can make it into whatever they want it to be, but if they want it to be fair, there's still a lot of work to be done (training?). CENSORSHIP becomes a monster when it's the result of moderating BIAS and/or POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.
His mistake was equating homosexuality with pedophilia (I think). That seems to be a magic phrase to get banned, a bit like making a blatantly false accusation of cheating/doping. There are certain lines on here where you can still say disgusting things but not be banned. The smartest trolls don't get banned that often because they know where these lines are and generally respect them.
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However, it seems we are now to be protected from his controversy. Some day maybe the mods will realize that a discussion forum lives and breathes by controversy. Otherwise it suffocates from lack of interest.
100% correct.

Suffocates from lack of freedom as well.

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His mistake was equating homosexuality with pedophilia (I think).
That much I'm aware of. I must repeat, as controversial as that comment is for some, it's actually an unapologetically natural belief for billions of people around the world. Discussing that controversy is healthy, even on MTF.

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That much I'm aware of. I must repeat, as controversial as that comment is for some, it's actually an unapologetically natural belief for billions of people around the world.
There was a similar discussion when Ironbmike got banned for saying something like this a few months back. These kinds of things come down to what kind of moderation posters want; banning nicknames and player insults pissed a LOT of people off and the mods backed off. Setting a line for saying certain things about gays (or blacks, Jews, women, whatever) doesn't seem to get too many posters worked up. I don't think the policy will change.
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That much I'm aware of. I must repeat, as controversial as that comment is for some, it's actually an unapologetically natural belief for billions of people around the world. Discussing that controversy is healthy, even on MTF.
It may be a belief of many people around the world, but I can't see where you could conclude that it is a natural belief.

Heterosexuality must be as much connected with pedophilia as homosexuality.

Sadly, I've had way too much contact with real life pedophiles, and know pedophiles who perpetrate on children of both sexes regardless of their preference for same or opposite sex adult partners.
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