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Old 11-26-2012, 11:42 PM   #61
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Or maybe he is so good he just makes the competition look bad?
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:46 PM   #62
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81 straight wins on clay is unbelievable.
Exactly. No one can believe N/Adull's supreme cheating.
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I still think Borg is better.
I agree. Borg's serve was much better than Nadal's and he was a better fast court player - Swedes used to play a lot indoors on wood, iirc. Lest anyone forget, Borg won '78 FO losing only 32 games.
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Default Re: The most untouchable Nadal`s record on clay

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81 clay streak
7 RG titles
16 clay m1000

Let's expand...from hardest to easiest:

8 consecutive MC titles
81 clay streak
Total of 8 MC titles
7 RG titles
16 clay M1000
6 Rome titles
7 Barcelona titles

I actually have used some probability calculations to get the order, particularly between 81 streak vs 8 cons. MC titles.

...Also history seems to support that 8 consecutive titles is the hardest, since it's never been achieved before in history of tennis, by a man or a woman - while Evert did have a streak of 125 on clay and Tilden probably had 80+ streak on grass.

Barcelona is the last due to weakest field... while Rome is tricky to win multiple times since it kind of suits for all players but not especially great for any style/specialist.
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With number 8 now in the bag, i think the RG's title haul is possibly looking like the most untouchable one..Think about it Nadal won the 2013 French open playing 65-70% of his capability on dirt ( the exception was 1st set and from 0-2 in the fifth vs. Djokovic in the semi)..Nadal could easily stretch this one to a mind-boggling 10 RGs ( that is a whole decade of player'life winning the same Slam) if he wins 2 of the next three on the eve of his 30 birthday.. Only Djokovic is a real threat..
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81 wins on clay in a row for me.
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81 wins on clay in a row for me.
It is much easier if someone who is really good on Clay goes about racking up wins by vulturing 250 and 500 events left and right for three yeras..Nadal, with the exeption of 2005, did it solely on M1000 level and RG, Davis cup..He could have taken that to 100 straights if he played South America in 06 and 07..But RG, best of 5, for potentially 9 or 10 times is something otherworldly..
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8 FO titles is supreme over his other great achievements on clay.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:13 PM   #69
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81 wins on clay in a row for me.
Not for me. Chris Evert won 125 in a row on clay, but "only" managed seven RG titles. Eight is the only clay record he has regardless of gender, so I believe that's the strongest.
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Definitely the 8 RGs. Conceivably someone could come along who's much better than everyone else on tour on clay and play a lot of tournaments to get to that 81 number... Winning 8 RGs requires much more longevity, on a surface which isn't that forgiving usually on a loss of speed and fitness. He could add more to that still which is what's even more remarkable.
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8 RG title is not that impressive it was won against HC players.
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A lot of his records on clay will be untouchable for a lot of years
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