Wimbledon R2: Sergiy Stakhovsky def. (3) Roger Federer 67(5) 76(5) 75 76(5) - Page 43 - MensTennisForums.com

MensTennisForums.com

MenstennisForums.com is the premier Men's Tennis forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.Please Register - It's Free!

View Poll Results: factors

Stakhovsky exceptional tennis 72 57.14%
Federer's bad day tennis wise 18 14.29%
Both played equally good and Fed just didn't convert his chances 36 28.57%
Voters: 126. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread

Old 06-27-2013, 02:58 AM   #631
country flag star
Blown Out On the Trail
 
star's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 62,737
star has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Wimbledon R2: Sergiy Stakhovsky def. (3) Roger Federer 67(5) 76(5) 75 76(5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by juan27 View Post
anyway , wimbledon is the slam in where you can have more surprises , a very good serve player and with a good day can win , in clay it`s different.

all the greats said that wimbledon is the most difficult slam of all.
You know that this is not true.

Borg didn't think it was the most difficult slam. He thought the USO was the most difficult slam.

Sampras didn't think Wimbledon was the most difficult slam. He thought RG was the most difficult.

Also although you don't count him as a "great", Nadal thought USO was the most difficult for him to win.
star is offline View My Blog!  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 06-27-2013, 03:00 AM   #632
country flag juan27
Registered User
 
juan27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Age: 26
Posts: 2,647
juan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: What was the main factor of Federer's loss?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swiss_Bagels17 View Post
1. Federer had no answer to the Serve Volley Tactic. (Did your coach do any research Fed?)
2. Federer's Forehand was rubbish today
3. Stakhovsky Serve was great all day Federer only broke him once and on Break Points he played them well.
4. Federer didn't have his orange shoes on (Waiting for someone to come up with that excuse) Just joking.
5. Federer's depth on his shots were not good at all today.
I think that the serve and volley tactis of stav was not the problem.

the problem was federer`s shot , I saw that his shots were not so powerfuls and not desequilibrated stav.......his shots in many matches not hurt like before , his shots looked like with no power.

his return of serve against big hitter was dead too.

and the other problem was federer`s movement , he looks very very slow whrn he needs to go for the sides.
juan27 is offline View My Blog!  
Old 06-27-2013, 03:01 AM   #633
country flag star
Blown Out On the Trail
 
star's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 62,737
star has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Wimbledon R2: Sergiy Stakhovsky def. (3) Roger Federer 67(5) 76(5) 75 76(5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle_Johansen View Post
Just an assumption of course, but probably a safe one. He has kids, and is close to 32. Murray and Djokovic are in the primes of their careers and are obviously in great shape. Nadal is at the end of his prime but we know he works very hard off the court. I think what has happened this year is niggling injuries have prevented him from training a lot and that's contributed to loss of confidence, especially in big moments.
How can an assumption be "surely?" You said we didn't know and then made a statement of surety.

You're just making up a story that seems to fit the narrative you want.
star is offline View My Blog!  
Old 06-27-2013, 03:02 AM   #634
country flag Kiedis
Registered User
 
Kiedis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 6,492
Kiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Wimbledon R2: Sergiy Stakhovsky def. (3) Roger Federer 67(5) 76(5) 75 76(5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle_Johansen View Post
Just an assumption of course, but probably a safe one. He has kids, and is close to 32. Murray and Djokovic are in the primes of their careers and are obviously in great shape. Nadal is at the end of his prime but we know he works very hard off the court. I think what has happened this year is niggling injuries have prevented him from training a lot and that's contributed to loss of confidence, especially in big moments.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/tenni...racticing-less
__________________
Free Edward Snowden | Free Brad Manning | Free SDG | Free CD

God is killing me
Kiedis is offline View My Blog!  
Old 06-27-2013, 03:04 AM   #635
country flag juan27
Registered User
 
juan27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Age: 26
Posts: 2,647
juan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Wimbledon R2: Sergiy Stakhovsky def. (3) Roger Federer 67(5) 76(5) 75 76(5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by star View Post
You know that this is not true.

Borg didn't think it was the most difficult slam. He thought the USO was the most difficult slam.

Sampras didn't think Wimbledon was the most difficult slam. He thought RG was the most difficult.

Also although you don't count him as a "great", Nadal thought USO was the most difficult for him to win.
for sampras was the most difficul rg like fed or borg the USO because he never could win it.

but in general , wimbledon it`s the most harder , all the players wants to win wimbledon because it`s legendary and very dificcult.

on clay you have time to recover , but in grass if your enemy serve like a god , you are lose.

the other problem in wimbledon it`s the preparation , on clay you have 3 masters1000 , the same in hardcourts , but in grass???? only halle or queens.
juan27 is offline View My Blog!  
Old 06-27-2013, 03:04 AM   #636
country flag star
Blown Out On the Trail
 
star's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 62,737
star has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: What was the main factor of Federer's loss?

Quote:
Originally Posted by juan27 View Post
I think that the serve and volley tactis of stav was not the problem.

the problem was federer`s shot , I saw that his shots were not so powerfuls and not desequilibrated stav.......his shots in many matches not hurt like before , his shots looked like with no power.

his return of serve against big hitter was dead too.

and the other problem was federer`s movement , he looks very very slow whrn he needs to go for the sides.
Well, his return was crap, but he did hit some blazing forehands. I think the main problem was that whenever he seemed to be getting into a groove he shanked or made some sort of crazy error. That's what hurt him. Of course, these errors come because he's not able to do the things with his feet that he once did.

The other thing I was wondering about that people who know more than I could probably opine on is whether Stack was taking advantage of Fed's habit of just blocking back the return to set up his superior ground game.
star is offline View My Blog!  
Old 06-27-2013, 03:05 AM   #637
country flag juan27
Registered User
 
juan27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Age: 26
Posts: 2,647
juan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond reputejuan27 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Wimbledon R2: Sergiy Stakhovsky def. (3) Roger Federer 67(5) 76(5) 75 76(5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaShot View Post
nadal will never break fed`s records , he is death outside clay.

federer can lose but if nadal now wins , it`s ok.

now if novak superates nadal in weeks at nº1 , he will behind of federer and nole in dominance.
juan27 is offline View My Blog!  
Old 06-27-2013, 03:05 AM   #638
country flag star
Blown Out On the Trail
 
star's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 62,737
star has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Wimbledon R2: Sergiy Stakhovsky def. (3) Roger Federer 67(5) 76(5) 75 76(5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by juan27 View Post
for sampras was the most difficul rg like fed or borg the USO because he never could win it.

but in general , wimbledon it`s the most harder , all the players wants to win wimbledon because it`s legendary and very dificcult.

on clay you have time to recover , but in grass if your enemy serve like a god , you are lose.

the other problem in wimbledon it`s the preparation , on clay you have 3 masters1000 , the same in hardcourts , but in grass???? only halle or queens.
Now you're changing what you said. You said ALL THE GREATS say that Wimbledon is the hardest to win. Now that you see that is false you are saying something different.
star is offline View My Blog!  
Old 06-27-2013, 03:06 AM   #639
country flag ProdigyEng
#1
 
ProdigyEng's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Age: 21
Posts: 28,781
ProdigyEng has a reputation beyond reputeProdigyEng has a reputation beyond reputeProdigyEng has a reputation beyond reputeProdigyEng has a reputation beyond reputeProdigyEng has a reputation beyond reputeProdigyEng has a reputation beyond reputeProdigyEng has a reputation beyond reputeProdigyEng has a reputation beyond reputeProdigyEng has a reputation beyond reputeProdigyEng has a reputation beyond reputeProdigyEng has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Wimbledon R2: Sergiy Stakhovsky def. (3) Roger Federer 67(5) 76(5) 75 76(5)

Noserer tards are the biggest hypocrites on MTF!

Surprised they haven't blamed the BACK yet.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by sportstennis View Post
And, Roger Federer ranks 5th.
But any problem cannot be found?

argument.
Quote:
"Janowicz is a little crazy, but off the court very nice and humble." - Jurgen Melzer

http://marekfurjan.blox.pl/2014/11/S...lczy-o-AO.html
^^^ suck it ill informed JJ haters.
ProdigyEng is offline View My Blog!  
Old 06-27-2013, 03:07 AM   #640
country flag Kyle_Johansen
Registered User
 
Kyle_Johansen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Age: 22
Posts: 9,116
Kyle_Johansen has a reputation beyond reputeKyle_Johansen has a reputation beyond reputeKyle_Johansen has a reputation beyond reputeKyle_Johansen has a reputation beyond reputeKyle_Johansen has a reputation beyond reputeKyle_Johansen has a reputation beyond reputeKyle_Johansen has a reputation beyond reputeKyle_Johansen has a reputation beyond reputeKyle_Johansen has a reputation beyond reputeKyle_Johansen has a reputation beyond reputeKyle_Johansen has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: What was the main factor of Federer's loss?

Quote:
Originally Posted by star View Post
The other thing I was wondering about that people who know more than I could probably opine on is whether Stack was taking advantage of Fed's habit of just blocking back the return to set up his superior ground game.
Yes, Stak was taking advantage of Fed chipping/slicing returns back and then putting away a volley or hitting a comfortable approach shot. RF didn't hit over the BH return nearly enough.
__________________
Federer fan, writer, tennis player.
Top 10 all-time list (Open Era)
1) Federer 2) Sampras 3) Nadal 4) Laver 5) Borg
6) Rosewall 7) Agassi 8) Lendl 9) Connors 10) McEnroe
Top 10 favourite all-time list
1) Federer 2) Safin 3) Agassi 4) Sampras 5) Edberg
6) Lendl 7) Haas 8) Hewitt 9) Connors 10) Becker
Kyle_Johansen is offline View My Blog!  
Old 06-27-2013, 03:07 AM   #641
country flag star
Blown Out On the Trail
 
star's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 62,737
star has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Wimbledon R2: Sergiy Stakhovsky def. (3) Roger Federer 67(5) 76(5) 75 76(5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by juan27 View Post
nadal will never break fed`s records , he is death outside clay.

federer can lose but if nadal now wins , it`s ok.

now if novak superates nadal in weeks at nº1 , he will behind of federer and nole in dominance.
Nadal has records that Fed will never have. Federer has records that Nadal will never have. I'm ok with that.
star is offline View My Blog!  
Old 06-27-2013, 03:07 AM   #642
country flag Hugh Jaas
Registered User
 
Hugh Jaas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 928
Hugh Jaas has a reputation beyond reputeHugh Jaas has a reputation beyond reputeHugh Jaas has a reputation beyond reputeHugh Jaas has a reputation beyond reputeHugh Jaas has a reputation beyond reputeHugh Jaas has a reputation beyond reputeHugh Jaas has a reputation beyond reputeHugh Jaas has a reputation beyond reputeHugh Jaas has a reputation beyond reputeHugh Jaas has a reputation beyond reputeHugh Jaas has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Wimbledon R2: Sergiy Stakhovsky def. (3) Roger Federer 67(5) 76(5) 75 76(5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander Data View Post
Hugh Jaas is offline View My Blog!  
Old 06-27-2013, 03:07 AM   #643
country flag Kiedis
Registered User
 
Kiedis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 6,492
Kiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond reputeKiedis has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Wimbledon R2: Sergiy Stakhovsky def. (3) Roger Federer 67(5) 76(5) 75 76(5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by juan27 View Post

federer can lose but if nadal now wins , it`s ok.
For my sig!
__________________
Free Edward Snowden | Free Brad Manning | Free SDG | Free CD

God is killing me
Kiedis is offline View My Blog!  
Old 06-27-2013, 03:08 AM   #644
country flag star
Blown Out On the Trail
 
star's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 62,737
star has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond reputestar has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: What was the main factor of Federer's loss?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle_Johansen View Post
Yes, Stak was taking advantage of Fed chipping/slicing returns back and then putting away a volley or hitting a comfortable approach shot. RF didn't hit over the BH return nearly enough.
You've sort of shot your credibility with me in analyzing a match.

Basic problem with the backhand is that Federer cant' properly run around it anymore.
star is offline View My Blog!  
Old 06-27-2013, 03:11 AM   #645
country flag cakedraw
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 444
cakedraw has a reputation beyond reputecakedraw has a reputation beyond reputecakedraw has a reputation beyond reputecakedraw has a reputation beyond reputecakedraw has a reputation beyond reputecakedraw has a reputation beyond reputecakedraw has a reputation beyond reputecakedraw has a reputation beyond reputecakedraw has a reputation beyond reputecakedraw has a reputation beyond reputecakedraw has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Wimbledon R2: Sergiy Stakhovsky def. (3) Roger Federer 67(5) 76(5) 75 76(5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prodigy. View Post
Noserer tards are the biggest hypocrites on MTF!

Surprised they haven't blamed the BACK yet.
Anything else to add infamous bandwagon lover? If not, shut it and let people discuss
cakedraw is offline View My Blog!  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios