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Old 06-13-2013, 08:39 AM   #46
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You've forgotten Djokovic, Murray, Soderling and Safin.

Also Azarenka, Radwanska, Zvonareva, Safina, and Jankovic.
If you want to manipulate the stats by claiming Serena's peak runs from 1999 until 2013 and Federer's isn't between 2003 and 2007, sure.
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Old 06-13-2013, 08:42 AM   #47
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If you want to manipulate the stats by claiming Serena's peak runs from 1999 until 2013 and Federer's isn't between 2003 and 2007, sure.
So you're saying Federer didn't meet Safin 2003-07? Nor Djokovic?

I know you're just trolling, but try to troll like you have good memory.
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If you want to manipulate the stats by claiming Serena's peak runs from 1999 until 2013 and Federer's isn't between 2003 and 2007, sure.
there are a lot of people at tf who are saying that silliams is playing the best tennis of her life right now.

so for them peak silliams is 2012-
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So you're saying Federer didn't meet Safin 2003-07? Nor Djokovic?

I know you're just trolling, but try to troll like you have good memory.
He did, that was my mistake. Although Djokovic obviously was far from his peak back then.

I'm not trolling.
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there are a lot of people at tf who are saying that silliams is playing the best tennis of her life right now.

so for them peak silliams is 2012-
I would say that too if I was completely (sexually) obsessed with my favorite player, as 90% of the posters on TF is, in order to justify her career.
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Old 06-13-2013, 08:56 AM   #50
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He did, that was my mistake. Although Djokovic obviously was far from his peak back then.

I'm not trolling.
Well, trolling or not, it doesn't really matter. Whether there are "just" five or six women with better resumes than Federer is really not that interesting. Male/female comparisons are not usual in other sports either.
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Default Re: SI dares to claim: Serena can be compared with Federer in GOAT discussion

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Serena would lose to any top 50 player in the ATP.
and according to me 16<17
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apple and oranges. it's silly to compare Sereana with Fed or any woman with any man. Men and woman don't even play chess together and chess an intellectual sport (no athleticism involved).

Serena simply overpowers her opponents, and there is nothing wrong with that. She simply doesn't have any competition and that's also not her problem. The rest of the women on the WTA tour are pretty clueless but it is what it is. Men and women play 2 different sports (yeah it's still called tennis but nevertheless).
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Well, trolling or not, it doesn't really matter. Whether there are "just" five or six women with better resumes than Federer is really not that interesting. Male/female comparisons are not usual in other sports either.
Male/male comparisons are also sketchy at best
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Male and Female tennis comparisons
Serena would lose to any top 50 player in the ATP.
and according to me 16<17
First part would be completely irrelevant if this was a real discussion (and incorrect, since she would lose against everyone in the top 1000). And in that case I would be worried about the second part, because the chance she ends up with more Grand Slams than Federer is high
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first of all, nobody showing 'disrespect' to Serena. Also comparing their fighting spirits, achievements, respective peaks etc. is a complete nonsense. I respect both of them but comparing them is absolutely ridiculous.

Compare Graf and Serena. fine with me, and Graf is the GOAT. At least she had some competition, she also won more majors, she won the true GRAND SLAM (meaning all 4 majors in one year). people, wake up.
She even won the Olympics that year (= Golden Slam), got bronze in the doubles tournament and won three slams the following year, even more of an advantage then. 377 weeks on Nr. 1 are also impressive, considering the competition she faced. Serena isn't even close to Graf when it comes to career achievements.
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Serena would lose to any top 500 player in the ATP.
and according to me 16<17
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Let's compare the opponents they both had to play in Slam finals during their peak:

Serena: Venus (7x), Hingis, Davenport, Henin and Sharapova (2x)
Federer: Philippoussis, Roddick (3x), Hewitt, 35 yo Agassi, Gonzalez, Baghdatis
and pre-peak Nadal (4x)

LOL

Serena > Federer
pre-peak Nadal says the guy who considers 2013 Nadal as peak.
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pre-peak Nadal says the guy who considers 2013 Nadal as peak.
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Peak Nadal = 2005-now on clay and 2008-now in general. Lack of non-clay tournaments this year isn't really relevant since he beat Gulbis, Federer, Berdych and Del Potro back to back on hardcourt without any practice, which shows his superiority.
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This yank has completely fried his brain with home made meth. What an embarrassment. 1 challenger title on ATP is equal to 20 WTA slams.
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Serena would lose to any top 50 player in the ATP.
and according to me 16<17
She would lose to any top 1000 Player
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Default Re: SI dares to claim: Serena can be compared with Federer in GOAT discussion

Is this article a joke? It can't be serious. Fes is above any man or woman. That tard Serena isn't even the best among women
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