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Old 05-29-2013, 10:24 AM   #331
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Broken again. I fear this will not last much longer. Oh well, getting a MD win was anyway above expectations
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He must find a way to deal with Cilic's serve otherwise this match will be over in straights.
Cilic did serve well, too good for Nick unfortunately, winning 64 62 62. Nick seemed to lack energy and penetration.
Hope his injury is minor.
Good tournament for him, great result, great experience.
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Cilic was rock solid in this match. Kyrgois has good intent and that's all I care about at this stage. Never better than having a young, talented Aussie with drive and hunger to succeed.
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Basically what I expected from this match. Really happy that he won a match here. He is close to the top 200 now, which is great - should be able to play challengers regularly. Onwards and upwards...
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Yeah, he's pretty much gained significant experience. I see him as a favorite in the junior draw even if clay is not his best surface. Quinzi gained experience in Futures, while Nick won a Challenger and a match on a professional GS draw against a Top 100 player.
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After an awful start, losing his serve to love in the first game of the match, he competed very well for the first set and start of the second. Intensity went away and lost concentration - barely won points for patches. Cilic was solid, his level didn't dip at all and wasn't forced to raise at all either.

Nick's serve is already pretty great, but you could see the difference notably between his and Cilic's second serve. Cilic's has far more margin and kick, and better placement. His movement isn't great either, laterally or moving forward. ROS was pretty woeful overall, tbh. I could understand his logic - stepping in on the second to cut off the width and kick of the serve - but he was 1-2m inside the baseline for some of those returns and it rarely went his way. Especially on the ad court where a lot of his returns, of the second serve, where framed, mistimed or dumped half way up the net. His forehand is huge though, and his serve will become an even bigger weapon. His BH wasn't so consistent.

Cilic was obviously a class above though, most notably in concentration and consistency - but that's to be expected from a junior against a senior. Good signs are that he's already hanging with these guys pretty well (Stepanek for 3 sets, Cilic for the first set) and he still has so much room to improve.

Really impressed overall.
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:33 AM   #337
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Pretty fair assessment from Dmitry. Will say though I have seen a fair bit of Nick over the past 18 months, he was not at his best last night. His backhand was probably 20% worse than usual, though Cilic pressured him beautifully into making some of his mistakes. That being said, 2nd top tier match in your career against World Number 11 with a hamstring complaint and no clay tournaments as lead in, I will take 4,2 and 1 most days of the week.
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Pretty fair assessment from Dmitry. Will say though I have seen a fair bit of Nick over the past 18 months, he was not at his best last night. His backhand was probably 20% worse than usual, though Cilic pressured him beautifully into making some of his mistakes. That being said, 2nd top tier match in your career against World Number 11 with a hamstring complaint and no clay tournaments as lead in, I will take 4,2 and 1 most days of the week.
It was 4, 2 and 2...

No excuses but nick wasn't at his best at all today. Fought hard though and I was proud of that. Routine forehands that he usually begins to dominate points off, were missed and as you pointed out above heaps too many backhand errors too. These popped up more after the hammy agitation - but conditioning is all part of the game. He will be back. This was an awesome experience for Nick, and regardless of whatever negative criticisms are out there, he once again showed his character and what he is capable of this week. He isn't a person I would doubt and I look forward to the rest of the year.
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Old 05-30-2013, 10:58 AM   #339
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It was 4, 2 and 2...

No excuses but nick wasn't at his best at all today. Fought hard though and I was proud of that. Routine forehands that he usually begins to dominate points off, were missed and as you pointed out above heaps too many backhand errors too. These popped up more after the hammy agitation - but conditioning is all part of the game. He will be back. This was an awesome experience for Nick, and regardless of whatever negative criticisms are out there, he once again showed his character and what he is capable of this week. He isn't a person I would doubt and I look forward to the rest of the year.
I hope you're not pissed at me I was just trying to fill in a few members who might have missed the match on how Nick's game is looking. I was probably a little harsh to be honest, but only because in a match you can't help but compare players against eachother and he was playing the World #11. Probably a bit unfair to compare him to Cilic with where both are at in their career.

You've probably mentioned this before, but who is Nick's coach and is anyone from Tennis Australia heavily involved in his development?
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Old 05-30-2013, 04:44 PM   #340
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I hope you're not pissed at me I was just trying to fill in a few members who might have missed the match on how Nick's game is looking. I was probably a little harsh to be honest, but only because in a match you can't help but compare players against eachother and he was playing the World #11. Probably a bit unfair to compare him to Cilic with where both are at in their career.

You've probably mentioned this before, but who is Nick's coach and is anyone from Tennis Australia heavily involved in his development?
Not at all pissed! you said it how it was.

Simon Rae is coaching nick at the moment and has been, since about the start of the year so they it's an understatement to say they have been working pretty well together. Tennis Australia is in charge of Nicks scheduling and training at the moment so I guess it's fair to say they are heavily involved.
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I doubt there are any negative criticisms of Nick out there. He played well, optimised the opportunity given to him. I thought that DVs summation was fair and balanced.
The kid has game, has ticker, needs good governance and Rae will be good for him.
Hope Nick and Rae both have some influence over TA's scheduling, which has been utterly hopeless for some players.
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I doubt there are any negative criticisms of Nick out there. He played well, optimised the opportunity given to him. I thought that DVs summation was fair and balanced.
The kid has game, has ticker, needs good governance and Rae will be good for him.
Hope Nick and Rae both have some influence over TA's scheduling, which has been utterly hopeless for some players.
They are in the General Messages thread I started, but it's part and parcel of Nick succeeding. One of them was about Nick's grunts, personally I like that aspect of his on court demeanor as he grunts at the same times I do on court. That is, on important points when you need to concentrate even more. He also grunts to assert himself, like when he ripped that forehand inside in winner on game point to get on the board in the first set.

Nick gets to rest up now and use his main draw experience in the junior comp next week.
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They are in the General Messages thread I started, but it's part and parcel of Nick succeeding. One of them was about Nick's grunts, personally I like that aspect of his on court demeanor as he grunts at the same times I do on court. That is, on important points when you need to concentrate even more. He also grunts to assert himself, like when he ripped that forehand inside in winner on game point to get on the board in the first set.

Nick gets to rest up now and use his main draw experience in the junior comp next week.
There are in the thread that StatRacket points out above. Mainly concerned with movement (which will be improved with time in the gym and overall development). But there are other stupid ludicrous claims like he hits with no topspin. LOL nick rips his forehand with heaps of topspin which is why he can hit it so hard and keep it in. The grunting and the emotion is part of his game, love or hate it. I think its an awesome aspect of his game and fits right in with his energetic and fiery character. Regardless of what is said, it was his first slam, he is 18 and the first set and start if the second was competitive against Cilic - with nick not playing at his best.
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PARIS, FRANCE: Australian Open Champion Nick Kyrgios (AUS) will be looking to claim his second grand slam of 2013 when the Roland Garros Junior French Championships get underway in Paris on Sunday. Kyrgios heads an excellent field in the boys’ singles, with 19 of the world’s top 20 competing.

Kyrgios has been concentrating on the Men’s Futures circuit since his win in Melbourne, winning one event and reaching the final of another, in addition to the Sydney Challenger title he won in February. Kyrgios was also the recipient of a Wild Card into the mens singles event this week, reaching the second round by defeating Radek Stepanek (CZE) in straight sets.

Other challengers include world Number 2 Gianluigi Quinzi (ITA) who has had an impressive 2013 so far, capturing the Grade A Copa Gerdau clay court title in Brazil and reaching the final of 3 Men’s Futures tournaments.

Johan Sebastien Tatlot will be looking to become the first French boy to win the singles title since Gael Monfils in 2004 and has shown impressive form on clay, including defeating Quinzi for the Grade 1 Banana Bowl title in Brazil in March.

Alexander Zverev (GER) is the form challenger after he became the youngest ever winner of the Grade A Trofeo Bonfiglio clay court title earlier this month. Other players who have posted strong performances in their recent junior circuit events include Laslo Djere (CRO) and International 18&U ITF/GSDF Team to Europe member Wayne Montgomery (RSA).
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