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No 46 35.38%
He will win an ATP 250 26 20.00%
He will win an ATP 500 26 20.00%
He will win a MS title (yeah right!) 20 15.38%
He will do the unthinkable and win Roland Garros 12 9.23%
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:43 AM   #556
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He can't generate his own pace.
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But Murray is the one to beat at Wimbeldon
If Nadal makes it to Week 2, he is definitely the favourite.
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Old 05-05-2013, 12:22 PM   #558
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Kohli pulls out a good game to level...boo
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Kohli pulls out a good game to level...boo
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You would m8.
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It's mostly his style of tennis. Murray like to hit some junkballs that lack both power and heavy topspin. On hardcourt he gets away with it, because those balls bounce lower and it's harder to be aggressive on them.


On clay Murray is easier to attack. It's his own fault really. If he ditched his crappy junk shots and went for more heavy forehands or at least actual moonballs (high bounce is also hard to attack, especially from the BH side) but instead he often gives the opponent command of the points.

That might work well vs the lower ranked players even on clay but later in the tournament, QF-> when he faces players in form or the top10, then it's not very efficient. He needs to win matches on his own rather than hoping for tons of errors or that hurricane winds saves the day. He is clearly capable of hitting both heavy forehands and backhands so his problem is mostly in his head. His junkshots are simple not as efficient on clay, yet he plays clay like any other surface.

He has started hitting his fh much heavier and more aggressive post Wimbledon but its still a forgone conclusion that he will not amount to much this clay court season as that loss the stan indicates.
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A player who relies on his returning who isn't comfortable moving on clay is pretty much the essence of a mug on the surface.
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A player who relies on his returning who isn't comfortable moving on clay is pretty much the essence of a mug on the surface.


He spent a good bit of time in Barcelona, no reason why his moving shouldn't be at least average on the surface.
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I disagree with most of the posts.
I really think that he played fantastic in 2011 on clay and he has some seasons to show how good he can actually play on clay.
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If Nadal makes it to Week 2, he is definitely the favourite.
What?

He's not the favourite against Djokovic and Federer.
And Murray 2.0 will finally beat him on grass IMO.
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What?

He's not the favourite against Djokovic and Federer.
And Murray 2.0 will finally beat him on grass IMO.


Nadal is the favorite against federer on any surface except clay. On clay he's more than just a favorite.
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What?

He's not the favourite against Djokovic and Federer.
And Murray 2.0 will finally beat him on grass IMO.
there is no such thing as Murray 2.0
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there is no such thing as Murray 2.0



I agree, Murray 2.0 is just a product of Nadal not playing.
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I agree, Murray 2.0 is just a product of Nadal not playing.
bingo.....plus wind
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bingo.....plus wind
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