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View Poll Results: Will he win a clay title

No 46 35.38%
He will win an ATP 250 26 20.00%
He will win an ATP 500 26 20.00%
He will win a MS title (yeah right!) 20 15.38%
He will do the unthinkable and win Roland Garros 12 9.23%
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:46 PM   #511
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:50 PM   #512
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Irrelevant. You said he hadn't mentioned anything like it since he was 16
All I was saying is clay isn't his favorite surface now so bringing up an article from 3 years ago is stupid.
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:54 PM   #513
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-_- i said it 1000 times already ..
You can't counterpunch on clay ... everyone who had played the game and have simple sence of tennis and has common logic knows this ... For instance: Simon , Hewitt ......
and last but not least Murray thrives on his opponents power ! and his swings are short and rely on timing ... THE END/FIN/KONEC ! Deal with it you low tennis IQ-ers
I'd say Ferrer is more of a bigger counterpuncher than Murray, and he does well on clay
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:57 PM   #514
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He did not grow up on clay, that's a misconception. He spent 2 years in Barcelona. He grew up on hard courts.

With his movement being one of his key strengths, he doesn't do well on clay, because he is unable to slide into his shots. His forehand is also not potent enough to hit through the court on a regular basis. Obviously, confidence goes a long way as well.
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:00 PM   #515
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Poor movement in contrast with how he is on HCs/grass. Inability to generate many winners. Poor building of points and indecision about where to defend/attack (because his usual counter-punching isn't as effective).
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I'd say Ferrer is more of a bigger counterpuncher than Murray, and he does well on clay
Ferrer's a natural mover on clay and is superior at dictating points on the surface.
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Andy hasn't said clay was his favorite since he was 16 years old.
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All I was saying is clay isn't his favorite surface now so bringing up an article from 3 years ago is stupid.
Enough with the lies please. Stop contradicting yourself.
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I'd say Ferrer is more of a bigger counterpuncher than Murray, and he does well on clay
Ferrer isn't counterpunching when playing on clay
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Enough with the lies please. Stop contradicting yourself.
It's possible to enjoy the challenge of a surface, for example I enjoy clay courts the most even if my own best play comes on grass.
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Enough with the lies please. Stop contradicting yourself.
Are you dumb? I realize I made a mistake but that's not the point. The point is that Andy's favorite surface now is not clay so bringing up something from the past is pointless.
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Are you dumb? I realize I made a mistake but that's not the point. The point is that Andy's favorite surface now is not clay so bringing up something from the past is pointless.
You have much of the teen angst that another high-profile Murray fan here is known for.

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It's possible to enjoy the challenge of a surface, for example I enjoy clay courts the most even if my own best play comes on grass.
I still dont think you have a chance at Wimbledon
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The fact you think that is even more than him
I was screwing around a bit you know.........everyone was trolling so I wanted in
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I was screwing around a bit you know.........everyone was trolling so I wanted in
It's not like any of your other posts have any more substance, so you have to forgive him for being confused.
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I still dont think you have a chance at Wimbledon
well obviously but I'm pointing out that you can enjoy a surface more even if you aren't as effective on it
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