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Old 04-16-2013, 10:10 PM   #46
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You have completely missed my point. You should not care about grand scheme of things, however you should definitely look at the big picture when it comes to the events happening today - especially those that don't impact you.

If some people died thousands of kilometers away, why would you care? Does it personality matter to you? Do you want to want to stress yourself because of it? Would you waste time offering fake tears and sympathies on an online forum like I see some people doing here?

The point of the previous post, in case it escaped you is: people die all the time. It's a natural thing whether it happens sooner or later. I am an atheist, so I believe I only have one life to live and I sure as hell not going to waste it "mourning" people whose lives are deemed important by yank media.
And you have completely missed mine. Not everyone is like you - some people, whether after seeing these pictures or merely after hearing this news, do get affected. And even if they do not, so what? If you do not want to waste your time by mourning these people, nobody is stopping you. If others do want to offer their sympathies, fake or real, why should they be reprimanded for it? It´s their call, their choice. And really Sherlock, people die all the time? Thanks for the heads-up.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:22 PM   #47
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You have completely missed my point. You should not care about grand scheme of things, however you should definitely look at the big picture when it comes to the events happening today - especially those that don't impact you.

If some people died thousands of kilometers away, why would you care? Does it personality matter to you? Do you want to want to stress yourself because of it? Would you waste time offering fake tears and sympathies on an online forum like I see some people doing here?

The point of the previous post, in case it escaped you is: people die all the time. It's a natural thing whether it happens sooner or later. I am an atheist, so I believe I only have one life to live and I sure as hell not going to waste it "mourning" people whose lives are deemed important by yank media.
This is an interesting point. Because of its somewhat confrontational tone, most people will dismiss it is mindless trolling, but there is some truth within it, all nihilism aside. When the Western media report on an event such as the Boston Marathon explosion, they seem to persist that it's a social obligation to be sympathetic. Some people are genuinely sympathetic, others are not, but the latter still tend to give the illusion of being sympathetic because our culture embraces such a norm.

It's endearing.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:24 PM   #48
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48 hours ago there was an explosion in Iraq killing 33 people and injuring over 300. The Western media did not cover this at all..
Absolute, pure, unadulterated nonsense.

It amazes me how people just write what they want to believe. The Iranian earthquake is all over the western media.

Perhaps you are a little bit confused and do not realize that Boston was full of media for the marathon, while there were propaply very few western media types in remote Iran waiting to take pictures of the next earthquake. So yes, not so much visual news, but as for covering the story, it is covered across the western media.
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Absolute, pure, unadulterated nonsense.

It amazes me how people just write what they want to believe. The Iranian earthquake is all over the western media.

Perhaps you are a little bit confused and do not realize that Boston was full of media for the marathon, while there were propaply very few western media types in remote Iran waiting to take pictures of the next earthquake. So yes, not so much visual news, but as for covering the story, it is covered across the western media.
I not am talking about the Iranian earthquake. Where the hell did you get that from?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22149863

This had almost NO extensive coverage in the Western media besides a few articles. But it was not covered in many TV broadcasts.
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I not am talking about the Iranian earthquake. Where the hell did you get that from?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22149863

This had almost NO extensive coverage in the Western media besides a few articles. But it was not covered in many TV broadcasts.
The story was in yesterday's newspaper and not today's. I don't know about television news because I don't watch television news, http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/17/wo...an-border.html

Also it's on my google news page thatn20 people were killed in a bomb blast in Pakistan,
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The story was in yesterday's newspaper and not today's. I don't know about television news because I don't watch television news, http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/17/wo...an-border.html

Also it's on my google news page thatn20 people were killed in a bomb blast in Pakistan,
Why did you link an article about the Iranian earthquake? I have nothing to say about that.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:59 PM   #52
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Why did you link an article about the Iranian earthquake? I have nothing to say about that.
Sorry. That was a mistake. Here you go. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/16/wo...-approach.html

The earthquake was in today's newspaper. Actually I think there was another story also on the Iraq bombing.

No sorry. This one is not about bombings per se. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/16/wo...anted=all&_r=0

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hopefully but probably not the case which is stupid.

point:you value your life and your family more than others would ever do...
everything else is bullshit and hypocrisy.
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Sorry. That was a mistake. Here you go. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/16/wo...-approach.html

The earthquake was in today's newspaper. Actually I think there was another story also on the Iraq bombing.
Yes, the bombing received moderate coverage in newspapers, which tend to cover more issues. But for an event of this significance not to get mentioned on numerous TV broadcasts is bewildering, especially considering the fact more people died and got injured than the Boston Marathon.
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:06 PM   #55
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Yes, the bombing received moderate coverage in newspapers, which tend to cover more issues. But for an event of this significance not to get mentioned on numerous TV broadcasts is bewildering, especially considering the fact more people died and got injured than the Boston Marathon.
Well, I can't help what your country's media chooses to cover.

I think here in the U.S. it's understandable that the Boston marathon is getting more coverage.

Actually I would advise that you stop watching television news because it is skewed by the availability of video. You'll get a more balanced view through the print media, but the choice is yours.

Also I edited to add a more in depth story that might interest you,
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Well, I can't help what your country's media chooses to cover.

I think here in the U.S. it's understandable that the Boston marathon is getting more coverage.

Actually I would advise that you stop watching television news because it is skewed by the availability of video. You'll get a more balanced view through the print media, but the choice is yours.

Also I edited to add a more in depth story that might interest you,
I live in Australia. Last night, the mainstream media dedicated their entire news broadcast to the event. Having watched three different channels, there was no mention of the bombing in Iraq, in spite of it injuring and killing more people. Am I saying the Boston explosion didn't warrant such coverage? No. But when you learn a similar (albeit vastly worst) event happened within a few hours of each other and this particular event received no coverage, you question the integrity of journalism. And why was this the case? The Western media only care about their little reality bubble. They neglect to cover the more important and gritty events for the sake of viewership and profit. Hence why I said the media is the epitome of corporate, encumbered, monopolistic capitalism.

Now I do have the option, you're right, and I tend to neglect mainstream media 95% of the time, but a majority of the Australian population receives their information on current events through these outlets. It's a distressing thought that most people aren't aware of what is happening outside of the media's distorted bubble.
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I live in Australia. Last night, the mainstream media dedicated their entire news broadcast to the event. Having watched three different channels, there was no mention of the bombing in Iraq, in spite of it injuring and killing more people. Am I saying the Boston explosion didn't warrant such coverage? No. But when you learn a similar (albeit vastly worst) event happened within a few hours of each other and this particular event received no coverage, you question the integrity of journalism. And why was this the case? The Western media only care about their little reality bubble. They neglect to cover the more important and gritty events for the sake of viewership and profit. Hence why I said the media is the eptimoe of corporate, encumbered, monopolistic capitalism.

Now I do have the option, you're right, and I tend to neglect mainstream media 95% of the time, but a majority of the Australian population receives their information on current events through these outlets. It's a distressing thought that most people aren't aware of what is happening outside of the media's distorted bubble.
That is the fault of your media and your people. You can be mad at the U.S. for its actions, but hardly for the actions of your own countrymen.
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That is the fault of your media and your people. You can be mad at the U.S. for its actions, but hardly for the actions of your own countrymen.
Obviously. And this is what the Western media essentially does. Likewise, media in the Middle East or Eastern Asia wouldn't as extensively cover the event as Western media has. Therefore, no "lives" mean more than anyone else. It's merely a superficial fixation that depends on location and perspective. That was my initial point.
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Obviously. And this is what the Western media essentially does. Likewise, media in the Middle East or Eastern Asia wouldn't as extensively cover the event as Western media has. Therefore, no "lives" mean more than anyone else. It's merely a superficial fixation that depends on location and perspective. That was my initial point.
+1 You have explained what I have tried to say quite eloquently. Lives essentially do not matter. It's all about where the government controlled media chooses to focus the public telling them who to feel sorry for. It's all a subtle game of clever manipulation. Has nothing to do with offering pity and sympathy, but manipulating public opinion.
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+1 You have explained what I have tried to say quite eloquently. Lives essentially do not matter. It's all about where the government controlled media chooses to focus the public telling them who to feel sorry for. It's all a subtle game of clever manipulation. Has nothing to do with offering pity and sympathy, but manipulating public opinion.
I am not as nihilistic on the issue as you evidently are. Human lives have extensive value, although measuring the significance and worth of a life is impracticable and moot.
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