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View Poll Results: Are western lives presented as more valuable in world media?

Yes, sadly I think so 26 76.47%
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:34 PM   #31
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The reason why 9/11 had a bigger impact than the attacks in London and Madrid (and they were huge, they should not be diminshed) is because the 9/11 was on US soil. Let me try to explain what I mean.

The USA had not seen war or such a vicious attack from a foreign entity on US soil. It was a first.

The UK had experienced IRA attacks in recent history. Spain had experienced ETA attacks in recent history.

The fact that 9/11 got more attention had to do, in part, with people being shocked that the USA was no longer a safe haven. Not that some people didn't realise that, the government has taken quite a few measures to increase safety but 9/11 made it real, it brought it home.

People in the UK and in Spain didn't need reminding. The scars of terrorist attacks are still fresh. People were used to a thing or two there.

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The fact that 9/11 got more attention had to do, in part, with people being shocked that the USA was no longer a safe haven. Not that some people didn't realise that, the government has taken quite a few measures to increase safety but 9/11 made it real.
So now, how is this different from what I said earlier:

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When people start dying in safe places, people always wonder "Where is safe? Where can we live in peace?"
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Yes.

Because they are.
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So now, how is this different from what I said earlier:
because of the UK and Spain attacks. That's what made it different. Those areas were safe. I think that in the UK and in Spain, people had to realise earlier that safety is relative than the US.

An area being a safe place is not a sufficient explanation for media attention.
Media attention is about the surprise element, about the unexpected. Not about safety. People didn't expect such a vicious attack in the USA. People sadly expect to hear about violence in Syria.
People didn't expect to see explosions during a marathon. Iran has had its share of nasty earthquakes. They had a big one in 2012 for example. Boston gets a lot of attention. Iran doesn't.

But I don't think we're going to agree on this and I'm going to enjoy my evening away from my computer so let's agree to disagree.

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But I don't think we're going to agree on this and I'm going to enjoy my evening away from my computer so let's agree to disagree.
Of course.
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Yes.

Because they are.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:26 PM   #37
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good bump.

3 westerners die in boston and everyone is acting as if the world is gonna end. at least there's no bush around or another middle eastern nation would be invaded

The fact is it could be (I emphasize "could", no proof yet) a foreign attack. And this has more significance than civil war acts.
And yes bombings in western soils will always get more attention because these countries have created the economic, social and security conditions for these not to happen.
Who's going to be surprised by a a criminal shootout in Venezuela? In Europe on the other hand...
Now I'm waiting for your rant on how much safer and better third world countries are....
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good bump.

3 westerners die in boston and everyone is acting as if the world is gonna end. at least there's no bush around or another middle eastern nation would be invaded
Who is everyone? The Iran Daily has a huge story on an earthquake in Iran and a tiny story on Boston. Is this the kind of media bias you complain about?
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A human life is equally insignificant, no matter what country you come from. In a thousand years' time, which is a miniscule amount by cosmic standards, the events of today will be completely forgotten. Hell, in 50,000 years, the entire human civilization might be extinct and it still would not matter in the least in the grand scheme of things.
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A human life is equally insignificant, no matter what country you come from. In a thousand years' time, which is a miniscule amount by cosmic standards, the events of today will be completely forgotten. Hell, in 50,000 years, the entire human civilization might be extinct and it still would not matter in the least in the grand scheme of things.
Did you just write a serious post?
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A human life is equally insignificant, no matter what country you come from. In a thousand years' time, which is a miniscule amount by cosmic standards, the events of today will be completely forgotten. Hell, in 50,000 years, the entire human civilization might be extinct and it still would not matter in the least in the grand scheme of things.
Why should we care about the grand scheme of things? We have one shot at this and seeing as there is no significance save for what we choose to make for ourselves, let´s do just that then, no? Nihilism of the cynic sort got old an awful long time ago.

So yes, Western media is going to be biased towards Western victims, especially if, as has been said, the incident was as unexpected as was the case here.
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What some people do not seem to understand is that we in the west can choose what media we want to read from just about anywhere in the world. If we want to read Granma, we can. But while we are reading it we should remember that the Cubans only have Granma. For myself, I would not bother to read it. And for some reason I am not compelled to whine about the bias in its reporting. Let those who want to read it, read it.

Complaining about media bias is like complaining that your local supermarket has too much vanilla ice cream on the shelves and not enough pecan. If you ask why there is not more pecan, they manager will probably tell you that vanilla outsells pecan.

I think the problem with those that whine about media bias is that it makes them uncomfortable that the press is free, when it really should be controlled.
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Why should we care about the grand scheme of things? We have one shot at this and seeing as there is no significance save for what we choose to make for ourselves, let´s do just that then, no? Nihilism of the cynic sort got old an awful long time ago.
You have completely missed my point. You should not care about grand scheme of things, however you should definitely look at the big picture when it comes to the events happening today - especially those that don't impact you.

If some people died thousands of kilometers away, why would you care? Does it personality matter to you? Do you want to want to stress yourself because of it? Would you waste time offering fake tears and sympathies on an online forum like I see some people doing here?

The point of the previous post, in case it escaped you is: people die all the time. It's a natural thing whether it happens sooner or later. I am an atheist, so I believe I only have one life to live and I sure as hell not going to waste it "mourning" people whose lives are deemed important by yank media.
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Prove I am wrong.
How are lives in the Western world more important than others? From what standpoint are you analysing this? Economically? Politically? Complete trite. Eastern Asia and many countries in Africa are now the economic backbone for the global economy, and becoming more politically instrumental by the year, hence why Obama is looking for economic relations there (mostly in an imperialistic manner). China will be the inarguable superpower in the next fifty years, as will India, possibly. Israel have vast influence on America's political infrastructure, too, and most of their corporations, and it was only 25-30 years ago they were considered second-world.

Essentially, no lives are more important than others. It's a complete fabrication and a skewed argument. The Western media tend to ignore many world events, whether it be the Syrian Uprising, the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, North Korean political prison camps, the Islamic Sharia movement, the tensions in Pakistan where US drones have malfunctioned and dropped on innocent civilians etc. On the other side, media in the Middle East or Eastern Asia don't cover Western events as extensively.

48 hours ago there was an explosion in Iraq killing 33 people and injuring over 300. The Western media did not cover this at all. The Bosten Marathon consisted of 3 deaths and over 100 injuries and it got extensive, national coverage. This is expected. The Western media report primarily on first-world countries because most of their viewers are, in fact, from the first-world. They create the illusion that "we are all that matters".

The media today is a prime example of corporate, encumbered capitalism. It's about viewership, drama and bias, not reporting world events objectively. It's serving as arguably one of the most dysfunctional instituions in our public framework. This is why many people are now getting their information from independent outlets - some of which being non-for-profit.

Your post is imperious. It suggets that only the first-world counts because the media spawn such a disillusionment. It's amazing how media can completely distort one's reality. It honestly feels as if it is part of an agenda, to almost subdue the citizens of a nation and let them know that "we only count".
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