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Old 03-29-2013, 11:02 PM   #151
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The Haas fans say he's superior on much faster, skiddier courts with this poor endurance.

They claim I say nothing but they're speechless in this thread. They were speechless when Nadal & Djoker won a bunch of titles.

Can someone pls argue this guy, because it seems he blocked me cause I provided valid points of how incredibly wrong and ignorant his statement is

So in his opinion you need to have better health/endurance for short points, while it doesn't matter when you play long rallies on slow courts
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easiest route to a Masters final? How lucky can this Ferrer get? Hopefully Richie teaches him a lesson on Sunday. Also, LOL @ Del Potro
If he wins Miami his mummy and daddy are going to buy him a Mickey Mouse tournament in Spain and give wild cards to family members.
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That's where ppl who like shotmakers and real tennis players disagree with ppl who prefer marathon dirt ballers.

It is actually very relevant to me if you try to play tennis, improve your game going through risk and mistakes, to finally make it or not, compared to top spin moonball on the opponents' BH until they either kill you or kill themselves.

That's why Ferrer will always be a pigeon of the top guys and never will achieve anything in Slams.

The most annoying fact about his personality is that is enough for him and he wouldn't do anything different to ever try change it.
There is nothing he can do to change those bad match-ups. He has absolutely maxed out his potential, you can't ask for more.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:05 PM   #154
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Can someone pls argue this guy, because it seems he blocked me cause I provided valid points of how incredibly wrong and ignorant his statement is

So in his opinion you need to have better health/endurance for short points, while it doesn't matter when you play long rallies on slow courts
Heya usually tends to post once and then leave a thread, unless the subject at hand is Roddick. You should not expect a discussion.
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is this settled now?
It isn't settled for certain but given the number of points both players have to defend between now and RG it looks almost certain. Even if Nadal wins MC, Barcelona, Madrid and Rome then there is still a decent chance that Ferrer would be ahead of him as he would only need something like 900 points between now and RG.
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How about the fact that he's been linked to Luis del Moral Garcia

David Ferrer has been an "average/above average" player until 27/28 yrs old and then, all of a sudden, became a "top player".

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Oh, I was waiting for this. How the hell does this have any direct correlation to what I was saying?

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His gameplan quickly dissolves when he faces Real Top 4. AO SF and Acapulco F showed that.
And this is relevant how, exactly? Did I come out and say Ferrer is a tennis legend and great? No.

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Yes, these obvious characteristics of Ferrer's game are what i call "unwatchable".

You can question anything you want (which is funny when talking about taste...), but fancy rhetoric doesn't make your argument any deeper, just another plain and shallow forum rant.
Fancy rhetoric? Please, instead of critiquing my method of argument, be more persuasive. Do you understand what the word "unwatchable" means? Do you have any idea how much significance that word holds? I have openly stated Ferrer's game isn't the most endearing out there, but to go to those extreme, maximal lengths and call his game unwatchable is juvenile and puerile. You tennis complainers are hard to please.

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you may be right, but those two don't belong in the same sentence
I consider most of his matches light, easy entertainment, and certainly not unwatchable.
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It isn't settled for certain but given the number of points both players have to defend between now and RG it looks almost certain. Even if Nadal wins MC, Barcelona, Madrid and Rome then there is still a decent chance that Ferrer would be ahead of him as he would only need something like 900 points between now and RG.
it is settled then
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This isn't wrestling. It isn't predetermined. We can't always get the best match up possible. Sometimes we're treated, other times slightly underwhelmed. Tennis would be ponderous if we were constantly treated with great match-ups.



Oh, is that right? Haas has been an internet darling long before his recent run at Miami. Certain imbeciles love to indulge in their infatuation with him because he brings an "old-school" game of tennis to the table, which is refreshing to see in comparison to today's apparent "dullness". Haas has a sublime all-court style, but certain, selective groups of deluded fanboys tend to believe he is a Messiah of sorts, saving tennis from its current rut. I am not pointing out anybody on this forum, but do some browsing on the internet and you'll see for yourself.

Yes, his run was endearing to see, I'm not denying that, but Ferrer clinches a victory today and all you see is exaggerated pap such as "tennis is dead". Nonsense.
Let's not exaggerate. People tend to be nostalgic you know.
About the next point well...that's the nature of MTF. You are going to have to cope with that. Besides valid comments there is also a lot of trolling, clowning etc. , some a lot worse than what we see today.
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The guy is a vulture... wins only when the top 4 can't
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Some gutsy play by Haas at this tourney, but ultimately, he is as I expected, a player in the same tier as Tipsarevic, albeit from a different, less competitive era. Does not have the necessary chutzpah (hi punky!) to maintain form for an entire tournament. The tour is full of players such as him.

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Tispsarevic > Haas.

Ferrer, well done again. You deserve your ranking.






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Heya usually tends to post once and then leave a thread, unless the subject at hand is Roddick. You should not expect a discussion.
I see, does he also block people right after you prove him wrong ?
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all this talk of age, ferrer is 31ish isnt he?
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There is nothing he can do to change those bad match-ups. He has absolutely maxed out his potential, you can't ask for more.
Even i can try to hit a flat FH every 10 shots, but he refuses to do so.

That's what i hate about him. He prefers to stay there and wait one of those guys is barely standing (Ao against Nadal..) and feast on his greatest victory...from where i suppose comes his fair nickname.

But never would he try to hit a flat shot from baseline ever, just top spin on the BH, top spin on the BH and again...

One either has sympathy for the guy being humble and knowing he couldn't do more, so he just works on his already endless stamina and hopes for less endurant adversaries.

Or despises this kind of...vulturing really, can't find a better word, it describes it so well.

I've always been in the middle and just by common courtesy stayed mostly on the "respect for the hard worker" side, but his disgusting intentional grunting tonight just lost me for this cause.

I'd rather watch Raonic beat Verdasco on clay than Ferrer outgrunt and outgrind and shotmaker, any of them.
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