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Old 03-11-2013, 04:11 PM   #46
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Olderer bageled Nadal. Young Nadal owned Fed on clay but that's it. Instead imagine if Rafa was born in the 90s when the courts were fast... he would be exposed as the clay specialist he is.
The pain in this post is obvious. Federer was lucky in his early career to beat players like Phillipousis and other thickskulls to win and make become a lot of slam titles.
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:29 PM   #47
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W 2003: Roddick.
AO 2004: Ferrero.
W 2004: Roddick.
US 2004: Hewitt.
W 2005: Hewitt.
US 2005: Hewitt.
AO 2006: Baghdatis.
W 2006: Nadal.
US 2006: Roddick.
AO 2007: Roddick.
W 2007: Nadal.
US 2007: Davydenko.
US 2008: Djokovic.
RG 2009: Del Potro.
W 2009: Roddick.
AO 2010: Murray.
W 2012: Murray.

Also,

RG 2011: Djokovic.

Biggest gainers:
Roddick +5
Hewitt +3
Nadal, Murray, Djokovic +2
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:37 PM   #48
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RG 2005: Puerta.
RG 2006: Federer.
RG 2007: Federer.
RG 2008: Federer.
W 2008: Federer.
AO 2009: Federer.
RG 2010: Soderling.
W 2010: Soderling.
US 2010: Djokovic.
RG 2011: Federer.
RG 2012: Ferrer.

Biggest gainers:
Federer +6 (WOW! 23!)
Soderling +2
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:43 PM   #49
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You do realise 'peak' Fed would have to beat peak Nadal for most of his slams instead of Davydenko, Roddick and Baghdatis. Boy would that be painful for Mr. 2-8 in slams.
You mean the Davydenko that has a positive H2H vs Nadal and who in 09 won the WTF beating the players that currently make up the ATP top? Btw, Roddick also did pretty well against Nadal. Yet they are Fed's turkeys and therefore you disrespect them. But be my guest, go ahead and further diminish Fed's competition, like Gonzo in AO07 who destroyed Nadal but couldn't overcome Federer. There are countless examples like that.
H2H is really the Nadaltards' one and only argument (as if the point of tennis was beating 1 player ). They're not even realizing that the asspicker only leads that H2H because of a very lucky matchup situation and so many matches with clay as the surface.
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:11 PM   #50
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RG 2005: Puerta.
RG 2006: Federer.
RG 2007: Federer.
RG 2008: Federer.
W 2008: Federer.
AO 2009: Federer.
RG 2010: Soderling.
W 2010: Soderling.
US 2010: Djokovic.
RG 2011: Federer.
RG 2012: Ferrer.

Biggest gainers:
Federer +6 (WOW! 23!)
Soderling +2
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:14 PM   #51
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You mean the Davydenko that has a positive H2H vs Nadal and who in 09 won the WTF beating the players that currently make up the ATP top? Btw, Roddick also did pretty well against Nadal. Yet they are Fed's turkeys and therefore you disrespect them. But be my guest, go ahead and further diminish Fed's competition, like Gonzo in AO07 who destroyed Nadal but couldn't overcome Federer. There are countless examples like that.
H2H is really the Nadaltards' one and only argument (as if the point of tennis was beating 1 player ). They're not even realizing that the asspicker only leads that H2H because of a very lucky matchup situation and so many matches with clay as the surface.
Hey! It's my favourite poster, how you doing?

Yeah, the Davydenko that never reached a slam final and only was able to beat Rafa in meaningless warm up events, that Davy

I like Roddick very much, but having him as your main rival is not great competition. The accounts that Nadal was destroyed by these players, was when he was 20-21 and still finding his game outside of clay and these guys were in their peak, that doesn't make it any less of a weak era in which 'Jesus'Fed flourished.

H2H, well, the difference with the H2H of Davy is is that Nadal thouroghly dominated Roger on the big stage. Federer only beat him twice seven and six years ago. The 'lucky match up' reason is just an excuse to why you're not good enough to beat a player. So many more matches on clay, yeah a staggering 3 more than they've had hardcourt encounters.
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:44 PM   #52
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2003 Wimbledon: Roddick
2004 Australian Open: Safin
2004 Wimbledon: Roddick
2004 US Open: Hewitt
2005 Wimbledon: Hewitt
2005 US Open: Hewitt
2006 Australian Open: Davydenko
2006 Wimbledon: Nadal
2006 US Open: Roddick
2007 Australian Open: Gonzalez
2007 Wimbledon: Nadal
2007 US Open: Djokovic
2008 US Open: Djokovic
2009 French Open: Del Potro
2009 Wimbledon: Roddick
2010 Australian Open: Murray
2012 Wimbledon: Murray

New slam counts:

Nadal 13 (+2)
Djokovic 8 (+2)
Roddick 5 (+4)
Hewitt 5 (+3)
Murray 3 (+2)
Safin 3 (+1)
Del Potro 2 (+1)
Gonzalez 1 (+1)
Davydenko 1 (+1)
basically, tennis would suck without Federer. Even the haters would miss him
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Roddick would be in the prestigious 6 slam winners list. Biggest loser of the Federer era, without a doubt.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:08 PM   #54
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Federer would be the GOAT of ALL SPORTS. His domination at the slams would have been surreal. Something like 25 slams. Leaving Court and Graf behind.
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Wimbledon 2003: Roddick
Aussie Open 2004: Hewitt
Wimbledon 2004: Roddick
US Open 2004: Agassi
Wimbledon 2005: Roddick
US Open 2005: Hewitt
Aussie Open 2006: Davydenko
Wimbledon 2006: Nadal
US Open 2006: Roddick
Aussie Open 2007: Djokovic
Wimbledon 2007: Nadal
US Open 2007: Djokovic
US Open 2008: Murray
French Open 2009: Soderling
Wimbledon 2009: Roddick
Aussie Open 2010: Murray
Wimbledon 2012: Murray


Different Slam Counts:
Nadal 13 (+2)
Agassi 9 (+1)
Djokovic 8 (+2)
Roddick 6 (+5)
Murray 4 (+3)
Hewitt 4 (+2)
Davydenko 1 (+1)
Soderling 1 (+1)
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:54 PM   #56
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French 2005: Federer
French 2006: Federer
French 2007: Federer
French 2008: Djokovic
Wimbledon 2008: Federer
US Open 2008: Murray (Murray would have had a much less tiring semi
Aussie Open 2009: Federer
French 2010: Almagro
Wimbledon 2010: Murray
US Open 2010: Djokovic
French 2011: Federer
Wimbledon 2011: Murray (Would have favoured him against Djokovic on grass)
French 2012: Djokovic

Different Slam Counts:
Federer 22 (+5)
Djokovic 8 (+2)
Murray 4 (+3)
Almagro 1 (+1)
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RG 2005: Puerta.
RG 2006: Federer.
RG 2007: Federer.
RG 2008: Federer.
W 2008: Federer.
AO 2009: Federer.
RG 2010: Soderling.
W 2010: Soderling.
US 2010: Djokovic.
RG 2011: Federer.
RG 2012: Ferrer.

Biggest gainers:
Federer +6 (WOW! 23!)
Soderling +2
Seems legit
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Imagine Rafa was born a few years earlier. Poor Rogie
why? federer lost a lot more slams to rafa then the other way around

rafa lost most a lot more slams to nole then to fed


i think rafa would have been the same if fed wasnt around, 11-10 slams

fed would have won much less then 17 if rafa wasnt around, less Motivation, he would have become bored and not playing up to age 32+
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Wimbledon 2003: Roddick
Aussie Open 2004: Nalbandian
Wimbledon 2004: Roddick/Hewitt
US Open 2004: Agassi
Wimbledon 2005: Roddick/Hewitt
US Open 2005: Agassi
Aussie Open 2006: Haas (maybe Davydenko)
Wimbledon 2006: Ancic
US Open 2006: Roddick
Aussie Open 2007: Djokovic (maybe Gonzalez)
Wimbledon 2007: Nadal
US Open 2007: Djokovic
US Open 2008: Djokovic
Roland Garros 2009: Del Potro
Wimbledon 2009: Roddick
Aussie Open 2010: Davydenko
Wimbledon 2012: Djokovic
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Wimbledon 2003: Roddick
Aussie Open 2004: Nalbandian
Wimbledon 2004: Roddick/Hewitt
US Open 2004: Agassi
Wimbledon 2005: Roddick/Hewitt
US Open 2005: Agassi
Aussie Open 2006: Haas (maybe Davydenko)
Wimbledon 2006: Ancic
US Open 2006: Roddick
Aussie Open 2007: Djokovic (maybe Gonzalez)
Wimbledon 2007: Nadal
US Open 2007: Djokovic
US Open 2008: Djokovic
Roland Garros 2009: Del Potro
Wimbledon 2009: Roddick
Aussie Open 2010: Davydenko
Wimbledon 2012: Djokovic

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