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Old 02-20-2013, 08:28 PM   #16
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:28 PM   #17
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This artice is bang on, there is nothing dumb about it, Roddick shouldn't even be in the rankings anymore, he's retired for goodness sake, that's what's stupid here, there shouldn't even be an article about this.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:29 PM   #18
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Stupid article. No matter what ranking system you have there would still be points dropping off players ranking tables while retired players who are still on the rankings wouldn't lose any, the only way to solve this would be just to delete retired players from the rankings which they did do at Ljubicic request, guess Roddick wanted to stay.
Rumour has it he has filled in retirement papers and will be stricken next week.

Good to finish going up rather than going down.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:30 PM   #19
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This artice is bang on, there is nothing dumb about it, Roddick shouldn't even be in the rankings anymore, he's retired for goodness sake.
When do you propose to strike players from rankings? When they have made interviews explaining that they retire or when they have actually put it in writing and sent it to the proper channel?
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When do you propose to strike players from rankings? When they have made interviews explaining that they retire or when they have actually put it in writing and sent it to the proper channel?
Obviously when they announce it yes, like he did at the US Open, at the very least he should be gone right after the tennis season finishes in November.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:39 PM   #21
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Obviously when they announce it yes, like he did at the US Open, at the very least he should be gone right after the tennis season finishes in November.
So you feel that the ATP should read every interview made by every player to discover if someone ranked 1750 or 1200 has now said he has retired? Or do you propose different rules for players with more public profiles? And what do you do the day you strike someone on the basis of an interview and he then complains he was misquoted by the journalist?
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I still don't get this.

If it is true, it is ridiculous.

A player should just have to notify the ATP when he retires. It is a job, right? This is what people do with jobs? No need to read every interview. Just submit a piece of paper.

He is taking opportunities away from other players who need opportunities.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:38 PM   #23
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I still don't get this.

If it is true, it is ridiculous.

A player should just have to notify the ATP when he retires. It is a job, right? This is what people do with jobs? No need to read every interview. Just submit a piece of paper.

He is taking opportunities away from other players who need opportunities.


How so? He's not taking anyone's place in any draws...
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I still don't get this.

If it is true, it is ridiculous.

A player should just have to notify the ATP when he retires. It is a job, right? This is what people do with jobs? No need to read every interview. Just submit a piece of paper.

He is taking opportunities away from other players who need opportunities.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:41 PM   #25
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Please articulate yourself! I genuinely am confused.

Surely the 100th player in the world wants to be 99th right? Maybe he is not taking opportunities from people but he is messing up the rankings.

He does not play tennis!
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Please articulate yourself! I genuinely am confused.

Surely the 100th player in the world wants to be 99th right? Maybe he is not taking opportunities from people but he is messing up the rankings.

He does not play tennis!
That 100th player in the world was the 100th best player in the last 12 months, no one is taking anything from him.

But the point here is, there's nothing wrong with current ATP system, when a player notifys them , they delete him. There's nothing more they can do.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:56 PM   #27
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He can change his mind, it happened in other sport. Hockey goalie Hasek announced retirement like 3 times and everytime got back. Maybe Andy will visit Vegas, gamble a bit and will be forced to make some more money
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I still don't get this.

If it is true, it is ridiculous.

A player should just have to notify the ATP when he retires. It is a job, right? This is what people do with jobs? No need to read every interview. Just submit a piece of paper.

He is taking opportunities away from other players who need opportunities.
Why the consternation? It's not like this is the first time it's happened. We've seen it several times in the past. People announce retirement and linger around somewhere in the rankings for most of the next 12 months. Edberg did it, for one, and he was much higher ranked at the time of his retirement. He announced end of season 1996 would be his last match and never played in 1997. Still he was ranked in the top-100 until September 8th 1997 and the top-300 until November 3rd. And he advanced in the rankings on five separate occasions that year.

Ranking system tells us how many points you've taken in the last 12 months. You only get taken out if you specifically ask to be taken out. Not everyone do that. You are free to feel they should, to make the rankings more actual, but it's their prerogative not to if they'd rather watch their name slipping downwards a few months.
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He is taking opportunities away from other players who need opportunities.
This is the part that people are facepalming.

He is taking oppurtunities from no one.

Yes the 100th ranked player should be 99th but he's still the 99th player in line to get entry into tournaments since Roddick isn't playing so no oppurtunity lost.

Yes like you said the player should notify the ATP in writing when they want to retire, this is something Roddick has not done, he hasn't put it in writing like Ljubicic did when he retired and was immediately removed from the rankings.

In this day and age a verbal agreement is rarely binding, even though it should be. Roddick has not put it n writing that he is retiring, maybe he wanted to leave himself open to maybe playing this year sometime if he felt like he missed tennis I don't know.

If Litotes is correct and Roddick has sent his retirement in writing to the ATP then he will be removed shortly as he should.

A player has the right to say he's retiring all the while keeping his deserved ranking if he wants to come back. When said player decides he doesn't want that ranking then he has the right to remove it.

Boyth scenarios no oppurtunities are lost so who cares
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