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Old 02-13-2013, 02:48 AM   #136
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This is Nieminen, not Nadal at Roland Garros!
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:51 AM   #137
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Not a single journeyman in that list.
How many of those players are past their twilight and at the end of their careers? Are any of them relevant today? Your comment is delusional

If these are not bad losses in your mind, you are even crazier than I thought you were...Restore your sanity, please and quickly
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:01 AM   #138
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How many of those players are past their twilight and at the end of their careers? Are any of them relevant today? Your comment is delusional

If these are not bad losses in your mind, you are even crazier than I thought you were...Restore your sanity, please and quickly
Get your definition of a journeyman straight, and then come back

And no, I don't think they are bad losses. Except for the loss to Nieminen. The win-loss ratio is bad, but these are not embarrassing players to lose to for someone who is still finding his way on the ATP Tour.
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2 double bagels this season already !
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:22 AM   #140
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Good to see this fanboy get double bageled. Now he can watch all his hero's matches, maybe even get an autograph or two
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This belgian is a mug of epic proportions - although calling any belgian male tennis player a mug is pretty redundant
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Maybe that choke to Troicki really got to Muggof. How unfortunate
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The hatred for David Goffin is absolutely ridiculous. As a big supporter of him, I feel I have to at least attempt to defend him in this case.

Firstly, what does Federer have to do with this? Yes, he likes Federer and perhaps likes him a lot, but why is that sufficient means to bash him? It's just plain stupid and highlights just how limited some of the posters on this website are when it comes to ways they can disrupt proceedings. He most certainly does not play anything like Federer. People might try and tell you he does, but he doesn't. David plays more of a counter-punching game, yes some of the flashy winners are there, but he's inherently less aggressive than Federer and lacks the variety that the Swiss has.

Secondly, yes this was a dreadful performance by Goffin, but we are exaggerating how much if a disaster this is. Maybe he'll take a few days to get over it, but then he'll be bursting to go when it comes to Marseille or Dubai and I expect him to produce a good level again. One bad match doesn't break a season.
It's not hatred of Goffin. It's an obvious reaction.

It is only natural that when a player is hyped out of all proportion by pundits and media, when said player loses badly people will enjoy it. That's what happened to Goffin here: the minute he said he had pictures of Roger on his walls the TV commentators and journos adopted him and hailed him as the next big thing in tennis. For no reason at all. They did more harm than good.

Secondly, Goffin didn't do himself any favours by trash-talking Novak during the Davis Cup tie. Don't get me wrong: I'm not against trash-talking, I welcome it, especially during Davis Cup ties, it's expected and adds spice to the proceedings. But the player who does it has to back up his words. You don't trash-talk the #1 player in the world, who is a mental giant, and then proceed to meekly choke a match against Troicki. The previous bravado made the choke much worse

I think Goffin bought the over-hype and is now paying the prize with a total collapse in confidence. He should have known his place within the tennis community. He shouldn't have bought his own hype. He shouldn't have tried to play hard-ball with the big boys. Or as the Spaniards delicately put it: he shouldn't have tried to fart higher than his ass.

He's young, he'll get over it, he'll learn some humility and he'll become more objective in his appraisal of his tennis...I'm not so sure about the pundits and the commies, though.
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This was downright embarrassing. Though Goffin got a little unlucky (a 6-2 6-2 score would've been possible if not for a few points) the amount of effort he put into this match was pathetic. Nieminen was solid, but didn't do much, just waited for David to implode. This he did aplenty.

I'm done with Goffin for now
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I envisioned these scorelines for Nemo after I saw his devastating form against Hass at the AO.
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WTF Goffin?!

You should call Roger so he can give you some private lessons on how to play tennis.
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WTF Goffin?!

You should call Roger so he can give you some private lessons on how to play tennis.
He'd needs a better players than Federer. Someone like Murray. Only he can save him.
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Ahahhahahahahahaha :\
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Forgetting the bagel muncher for a sec, got to say that Nemo is in his best early-year form since '06 by far. Usually he's able to generate one or two good showings in the first three tourneys, then plummets to obscurity.

This year, even though he didn't win a title like last year in Sydney, he's been playing really well and most important consistent in all tourneys. The semi against Gasquet last week was really good even tho he lost.
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Secondly, Goffin didn't do himself any favours by trash-talking Novak during the Davis Cup tie. Don't get me wrong: I'm not against trash-talking, I welcome it, especially during Davis Cup ties, it's expected and adds spice to the proceedings. But the player who does it has to back up his words. You don't trash-talk the #1 player in the world, who is a mental giant, and then proceed to meekly choke a match against Troicki. The previous bravado made the choke much worse
he didn't trashtalk Novak, he just answered to a question "if he thinks the courts are dangerous, he can choose not to play" : your touchiness is really something

And you can't admit what your hatred makes you thinking, which is far from objectivity.

Besides, the media didn't call Goffin as the next big thing, and surely not because he loved Federer : only MTFers did that as usual MTF is not a media and is not representative of the tennis world as some may think . Of course Belgians were happy that a player of their own, and a young one, reached R16 of Roland-Garros and fought nearly equally with Federer Besides, Goffin was the fourth player born in 1990 or after to enter top-50 (after Raonic, Tomic and Harrison), and you know that people are much looking forward for some of those youngsters to emerge, that's the only thing which happened to him but he was never "the next big thing".
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