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View Poll Results: WWW Rotterdam 500?

Roger Federer 58 63.04%
Juan Martin del Potro 15 16.30%
Jo Wilfried Tsonga 9 9.78%
Someone else (specify) 10 10.87%
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:17 AM   #166
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What do you mean earned a cakedraw? Draws barring limitations of not facing other top seeds are all random. Maybe since Federer is god he should work his magic on a draw
As you said randomness leads to lucky or unlucky outcomes.

Of course in the long term supposedly it all evens out.

But the draws especially with nadal now in 5th and Ferrer in 4th the rankings may be the difference between winning or losing a tournament.

Look at the AO. Djokovic, apart from the Ferrer match, played average tennis. Had he drawn Murray in his half we could now have Roger or murray as the AO champions.
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:34 AM   #167
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Of course in the long term supposedly it all evens out.
Not necessarily correct if it's truly random.
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:48 AM   #168
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Not necessarily correct if it's truly random.
No, if it's truly random then it evens out. Meaning in the long run the 1 seed should get the #3 seed half of the time and the #4 seed half of the time for example.

Law of Large Numbers
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When was the last time players as Almagro,Tipsarevic,Flo Mayer,Stepanek were in Federer's draw in GS
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No, if it's truly random then it evens out. Meaning in the long run the 1 seed should get the #3 seed half of the time and the #4 seed half of the time for example.

Law of Large Numbers
We're not talking about large numbers at all, though. In theory you could get Fed getting the theoretical most difficult draw every year from 2003 to 2013 in the slams (for example). It's not a sample that's big enough to work with that theory.
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We're not talking about large numbers at all, though. In theory you could get Fed getting the theoretical most difficult draw every year from 2003 to 2013 in the slams (for example). It's not a sample that's big enough to work with that theory.
Yes of course. 11*4=44, 44 is nothing. Was just talking theoretically.
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Anyone knows what surface is used in Rotterdam? What type of HC?
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Anyone knows what surface is used in Rotterdam? What type of HC?
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Lol feds draw is a joke now. Such a cake walk.
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Lol feds draw is a joke now. Such a cake walk.
It would be unfair if he always got hard ones.
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Lol feds draw is a joke now. Such a cake walk.
How could his draw have been worse? Tsonga losing early is no reflection on the draw.
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How could his draw have been worse? Tsonga losing early is no reflection on the draw.
Besides, Simon is potentially not a much easier oponent for Fed than Tsonga.
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Besides, Simon is potentially not a much easier oponent for Fed than Tsonga.
I know. I commented upon this after the draw, and said Tsonga might be a blessing in disguise as I expected him to beat Simon, a worse matchup. Unfortunately, he didn't oblige.
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