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Zepploydath · 01-28-2013, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by belfordrocks

Federer 17 -> 20
Nadal 11 -> 14
Djokovic 6 -> 12
Murray 1 -> 1
Del Potro 1 -> 1
Soderling 0 -> 1
Berdych 0 -> 1
Wawrinka 0 -> 1
Dimitrov 0 -> 8-12
Tomic 0 -> -3

Are more Slam events being introduced.

Henry Kaspar · 01-28-2013, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoon20

Djokovic: 9

Why not 19? Or 190?

The open-era record holders for "## of grand slam titles won after Djokovic's current age" are Federer at 6, Agassi and Lendl at 5, Sampras at 4.

Okram04 · 01-28-2013, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Looner

If RF wins another slam, it'll be a bit of a modern miracle but it'll have to happen this year. A USO final win over Djoko who would be on his way to a CYGS would be just sweet

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I have a hunch that this will happen, although I would love to see Novak take CYGS.

ogbg · 01-28-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Henry Kaspar

Why not 19? Or 190?

The open-era record holders for "## of grand slam titles won after Djokovic's current age" are Federer at 6, Agassi and Lendl at 5, Sampras at 4.

True, but when Federer was 25 years old the year-end top 20 contained 4 players under the age of 22: Nadal (#2 - 20 YO), Berdych (#13 - 21 YO), Djokovic (#16 - 19 YO), Murray (#17 - 19 YO) whereas last year the top 20 contained no players under the age of 22 and the top 50 only contained one player under the age of 22: Dimitrov (#48 - 21 YO).

Henry Kaspar · 01-28-2013, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ogbg

True, but when Federer was 25 years old the year-end top 20 contained 4 players under the age of 22: Nadal (#2 - 20 YO), Berdych (#13 - 21 YO), Djokovic (#16 - 19 YO), Murray (#17 - 19 YO) whereas last year the top 20 contained no players under the age of 22 and the top 50 only contained one player under the age of 22: Dimitrov (#48 - 21 YO).

Good point.

Zepploydath · 01-28-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ogbg

True, but when Federer was 25 years old the year-end top 20 contained 4 players under the age of 22: Nadal (#2 - 20 YO), Berdych (#13 - 21 YO), Djokovic (#16 - 19 YO), Murray (#17 - 19 YO) whereas last year the top 20 contained no players under the age of 22 and the top 50 only contained one player under the age of 22: Dimitrov (#48 - 21 YO).

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Originally Posted by Henry Kaspar

Good point.

This. I honestly think that tennis as a sport is changing/has changed. People have thrown around the term ''weak era'' because no young players seem to be breaking through and 30+ players like Federer and Ferrer are still getting to quarters/semis of slams but I think because of surface homogenisation we are seeing a shift to players seeing their peak years from 25-30 rather than 20-25. Nadal is a perfect example of someone who has benefited from this. When he 1st starting winning slams he was around 18/19 and this was fairly normal in comparison to previous eras. However, slowly surfaces began to merge into one another and here in 2013 they are all fairly similar and as a result the peak of players has changed from 25-30, just as Nadal entered that age group.

OmnipotentMaster · 01-28-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Henry Kaspar

Why not 19? Or 190?

The open-era record holders for "## of grand slam titles won after Djokovic's current age" are Federer at 6, Agassi and Lendl at 5, Sampras at 4.

Why not 190?

'cos he'd be around 73 before that was possible.

samo7266 · 01-28-2013, 07:12 PM

End of Career Projections:

Federer: 20 (1 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 1 in 2015, zero in 2016)-retired after 2016

Nadal: 13 (0 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 1 in 2015, zero in 2016)-retired after 2016

Djokovic: 13 (2 in 2013, 2 in 2014, 1 in 2015, 1 in 2016)-one slam after 2016

Murray: 5 (1 in 2013, 0 in 2014, 1 in 2015, 1 in 2016)-one slam after 2016

serveandvolley80 · 01-28-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by samo7266

End of Career Projections:

Federer: 20 (1 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 1 in 2015, zero in 2016)-retired after 2016

Nadal: 13 (0 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 1 in 2015, zero in 2016)-retired after 2016

Djokovic: 13 (2 in 2013, 2 in 2014, 1 in 2015, 1 in 2016)-one slam after 2016

Murray: 5 (1 in 2013, 0 in 2014, 1 in 2015, 1 in 2016)-one slam after 2016

There is no way Federer win's 3 more slams imo. With a faster surface maybe, hes got maybe 1 or 2 Wimbledon's left in him if hes lucky.

BauerAlmeida · 01-28-2013, 07:33 PM

Djoker: 6 more
Fed: 1 more
Nadal: 3 more
Murray: 2 more
Goatro: 3 more

Moozza · 01-28-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by belfordrocks

Federer 17 -> 20
Nadal 11 -> 14
Djokovic 6 -> 12
Murray 1 -> 1
Del Potro 1 -> 1
Soderling 0 -> 1
Berdych 0 -> 1
Wawrinka 0 -> 1
Dimitrov 0 -> 8-12
Tomic 0 -> -3

Is this serious? 3 more for Federer? Wawrinka and Berdych winning slams? Murray not winning another one? Really?

Alex999 · 01-28-2013, 08:27 PM

like really guys, how do you come up with these 'GS numbers'?

Zepploydath · 01-28-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Moozza

Is this serious? 3 more for Federer? Wawrinka and Berdych winning slams? Murray not winning another one? Really?

''I know, Wawrinka played a good match a few days ago, he'll probably win a slam.''
''Soderling thrashed Berdych and Ferrer in his last 2 matches, maybe he'll grab a slam.''

Trollicki · 01-28-2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy Emerson

Interesting.

Let's say they win less than 10 more slams combined. How about 8 or 9 more slams combined?

Federer: 1 more slam - 18 slams
Nadal: 2 more slams - 13 slams
Djokovic: 4 more slams - 10 slams
Murray: 2 more slams - 3 slams

This looks like a very sound prediction to me. Too easy do we assume the top 4 will continue dominating indefinitely, but fact of the matter is that current conditions, even though they have existed for a relatively long time, will not persist. These guys will age, will deteriorate and sooner or later someone will step up.

BauerAlmeida · 01-28-2013, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollicki

This looks like a very sound prediction to me. Too easy do we assume the top 4 will continue dominating indefinitely, but fact of the matter is that current conditions, even though they have existed for a relatively long time, will not persist. These guys will age, will deteriorate and sooner or later someone will step up.

That's only 7 slams for the top 4. Less than 2 years. Murray and Djokovic are only 25. Nadal is 26 (although given his current situation is understandable if someone thinks he won't win a lot more). Do you see Tomic or Dimitrov or Harrison beating Djokovic or Murray in two years from now?? And neither of the top four wining a single slam after that time? (Federer will be to old, but not the rest). They won't dominate for ever, but they will prbably dominate more than the next 7 slams. I don't see anyone from the new generation beating Murray or Djokovic soon (not even Federer). The only one who can stop the top 4 from wining slams is Del Potro maybe.