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Old 01-23-2013, 02:50 PM   #331
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Default Re: Roger : We are best ever, The four of us? Thatís a really difficult call.

How many times did top 4 reached semis in the past 5 years? At least 3/4 always there. Old Fed only tells the truth.

Even a replacement number #4 made it .
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:19 PM   #332
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How many times did top 4 reached semis in the past 5 years? At least 3/4 always there. Old Fed only tells the truth.

Even a replacement number #4 made it .
How many? Well, let's see. Five years, let's include AO 2008, that is 21 slams. Number of SFs:

Federer: 17/21
Nadal: 14/18
Djokovic: 15/21
Murray: 12/21
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Default Re: Roger : We are best ever, The four of us? Thatís a really difficult call.

This is a weak era.
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This is a weak era.
As opposed to 90's and early 2000's when clowns like Chang were in top 5 and serve bots like Krajicek and Ivanisievic were winning slams
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Default Re: Roger : We are best ever, The four of us? Thatís a really difficult call.

Even with Nadal dropping out - not much changes.

The only era that had similar competition was Connors/Borg/McEnroe/Lendl.

If you look at the time spent in the top 5, Federer still has a ways to go to match Connors. Nadal has a career trajectory similar to Borg, and then you have McEnroe/Lendl for Novak and Murray, respectively.
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:01 AM   #336
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As opposed to 90's and early 2000's when clowns like Chang were in top 5 and serve bots like Krajicek and Ivanisievic were winning slams
As opposed to this era where non top 4 bendover willingly and easily and choking and mugging is a daily course.
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How many times did top 4 reached semis in the past 5 years? At least 3/4 always there. Old Fed only tells the truth.

Even a replacement number #4 made it .
Last 5 years I suppose you mean last 20 Slams.

AO 2013: 3/4 (Ferrer entered as #5)

USO 2012: 2/4 (+Berdych and Ferrer)

Wimbledon 2012: 3/4 (+Tsonga)

Roland Garros 2012: 3/4 (+Ferrer)

Australian Open 2012: 4/4

US Open 2011: 4/4

Wimbledon 2011: 3/4 (+Tsonga)

Roland Garros 2011: 4/4

Australian Open 2011: 2/4 (+Murray and Ferrer)

USO 2010: 3/4 (+Youznhy)

Wimbledon 2010: 3/4 (+ Berdych)

Roland Garros 2010: 1/4 (+Soderling, Melzer and Berdych)

Australian Open 2010: 1/4 (+Murray,Tsonga and Cilic)

US Open 2009: 3/4 (+Del Potro)

Wimbledon 2009: 2/4 (+Roddick and Haas)

Roland Garros 2009: 1/4 (+Soderling, Del Potro and Gonzalez)

Australian Open 2009: 2/4 (+Roddick and Verdasco)

US Open 2008: 3/4 (+Murray)

Wimbledon 2008: 2/4 (+Schuttler and Safin)

Roland Garros 2008: 3/4 (+Monfils)


So overall 52/80 semifinal places for players ranked outside the top 4 in the last 5 years/20 Slams, 28/80 for players ranked #5 and below.
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Default Re: Roger : We are best ever, The four of us? Thatís a really difficult call.

I think he means Nadal spoils it for the three of them because clay is not a real surface.
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I think he means Nadal spoils it for the three of them because clay is not a real surface.
Is that why Noserer cried like a little girl when he won RG?
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Default Re: Roger : We are best ever, The four of us? Thatís a really difficult call.

I think Federer would have no problem confirming this now that Ferrer has consolidated the greatness of the top 4.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:22 AM   #342
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Default Re: Roger : We are best ever, The four of us? Thatís a really difficult call.

31-year-old Roger who declined had a tough draw. Heyday Murray had a too much easy draw. And they held a five-set game.
What highest era.


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Default Re: Roger : We are best ever, The four of us? Thatís a really difficult call.

Agassi thinks so.

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Default Re: Roger : We are best ever, The four of us? Thatís a really difficult call.

Like all these crap commentators, Agassi try to promote tennis. In 2020, Agassi, Trollander and co will say that Tomic play better than any player ever played before... Nobody will say "well, tennis players are averages today comparing to pasts champions" Casuals fans need to think that their champions are the bests.

It was the same when everyone called Federer the "best ever" even though he had only 6 slams. It was disrespectful for pasts legends like Laver, Gonzalez, Hoad...

I like Federer because he never said these kinds of statements, he's very respectful of pasts champions. Djokovic said many times than him and his mates raised tennis to a new level. His tennis knowledege is poor. I remember, in 2009 (Nadal had 4 FO) a journalist ask him who had won the most FO in the history (Borg easily at that time). He answered a shit like "i don't know... Nadal?"
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Like all these crap commentators, Agassi try to promote tennis. In 2020, Agassi, Trollander and co will say that Tomic play better than any player ever played before... Nobody will say "well, tennis players are averages today comparing to pasts champions" Casuals fans need to think that their champions are the bests.

It was the same when everyone called Federer the "best ever" even though he had only 6 slams. It was disrespectful for pasts legends like Laver, Gonzalez, Hoad...

I like Federer because he never said these kinds of statements, he's very respectful of pasts champions. Djokovic said many times than him and his mates raised tennis to a new level. His tennis knowledege is poor. I remember, in 2009 (Nadal had 4 FO) a journalist ask him who had won the most FO in the history (Borg easily at that time). He answered a shit like "i don't know... Nadal?"
Federer was the best of all time when he had 6 Slams.......not the greatest yet be the best 100%
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