View Poll Results: Vote for speeding up the courts or against it!
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Speed up the courts
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Leave them as they are
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01-22-2013, 01:14 PM
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#1306
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Age: 25
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Re: Grinding wins agains, speed up the courts or the sport will die.
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Originally Posted by Slasher1985
Why are you spelling there wrong? Aren't you American?
Anyway, you're right. The audience likes long spectacular rallies. But, they also like it even more if the rally is long on high-speed courts, because the defense on those courts is close to impossible, yet the players are still able to get the ball. The slower the court is, the higher chance that long unspectacular rallies with nothing special exist.
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No, I'm Croatian and English is not my first language.
Also, exactly! Slower courts make the longer rallies unspectacular because it's way easier to get the balls back, when the rallies were long and the players were getting tons of balls back on faster courts it was a true spectacle.
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Originally Posted by Trollicki
Yes. The fact that people were talking in superlatives about last year's final here. The fact they did the same thing two days ago after the Djokovic-Wawrinka match. The fact that they pay to see matches. The fact that there seems to be an increasing focus on the physical aspects of tennis. Etc.
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Okay, and like I said these kind of long rallies are 100% possible on faster courts; anyone that's watched tennis for a while would know this.
If anything slowing down the courts make these rallies unspectacular.
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01-22-2013, 01:14 PM
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#1307
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Re: Grinding wins agains, speed up the courts or the sport will die.
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Originally Posted by JarkaFish
Corporations do misinformed things all the time, I'm not saying the audience is dying for faster courts, but rather they really don't know what they want. If the AO courts were changed back to Rebound Ace tomorrow the casual audience would never know the difference and enjoy the tennis all the same.
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Yeah, I can agree with that.
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01-22-2013, 01:26 PM
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#1308
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Re: Grinding wins agains, speed up the courts or the sport will die.
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Originally Posted by JarkaFish
Okay, and like I said these kind of long rallies are 100% possible on faster courts; anyone that's watched tennis for a while would know this.
If anything slowing down the courts make these rallies unspectacular.
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I don't think we are really disagreeing here, save for that you think the audience would not notice if the courts were sped up again, whereas I think that they seem to like the current status quo. It could be that you are right, but that would still mean that the tournament organisers need an incentive to speed up some courts, seeing as how the audience will not be clamoring for it of its' own accord.
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01-22-2013, 02:12 PM
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#1309
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Age: 31
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Re: Grinding wins agains, speed up the courts or the sport will die.
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Originally Posted by JarkaFish
No, I'm Croatian and English is not my first language.
Also, exactly! Slower courts make the longer rallies unspectacular because it's way easier to get the balls back, when the rallies were long and the players were getting tons of balls back on faster courts it was a true spectacle.
Okay, and like I said these kind of long rallies are 100% possible on faster courts; anyone that's watched tennis for a while would know this.
If anything slowing down the courts make these rallies unspectacular.
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I simply can't believe you wouldn't cheer for your fellow ex-Yugoslav brethren such as Novak 
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01-22-2013, 02:26 PM
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#1310
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Age: 22
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Re: Grinding wins agains, speed up the courts or the sport will die.
Faster HC and grass would be good for grinders' bodies.
1) Rallies would be shorter.
2) Grinders would lose earlier, thus less matches.
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01-22-2013, 02:40 PM
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#1311
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Re: Grinding wins agains, speed up the courts or the sport will die.
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Originally Posted by JarkaFish
Where's the proof that the audience likes slower courts? Because they gasp when their's some sort of 30-shot rally or whatever? You realize their were plenty of long physical rallies on Rebound Ace and even DecoTurf where audiences had orgasms as well, right. Jesus christ.
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Did you watch tennis during the Rebounce Ace era? If you did, you should know why they get rid of the surface because the damage it did to players 
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01-22-2013, 02:44 PM
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Re: Grinding wins agains, speed up the courts or the sport will die.
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Originally Posted by NSMv1924
I simply can't believe you wouldn't cheer for your fellow ex-Yugoslav brethren such as Novak 
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Croats and Serbs don't really like each other that much. Not that there is a general rule about it though. But being separate religions helps them at least be neutral about each other.
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01-22-2013, 02:57 PM
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#1313
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Re: Grinding wins agains, speed up the courts or the sport will die.
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Originally Posted by Slasher1985
Croats and Serbs don't really like each other that much. Not that there is a general rule about it though. But being separate religions helps them at least be neutral about each other.
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lol dont like each other is mild
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01-22-2013, 02:58 PM
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Re: Grinding wins agains, speed up the courts or the sport will die.
pushing and grinding is not special because people can see those in abundance in their local tennis clubs.
I like variety and great shotmaking, that's why I enjoy most Fed-Nole matches. They are truly high quality that I can never see in my local clubs.
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01-22-2013, 03:08 PM
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Re: Grinding wins agains, speed up the courts or the sport will die.
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Originally Posted by atennisfan
pushing and grinding is not special because people can see those in abundance in their local tennis clubs.
I like variety and great shotmaking, that's why I enjoy most Fed-Nole matches. They are truly high quality that I can never see in my local clubs.
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so club players cant play on the same level as Fed-Nole?................
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01-22-2013, 03:16 PM
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Re: Grinding wins agains, speed up the courts or the sport will die.
3 of the top 4 cant play on fast courts without risking early losses to lower ranked players
the ATP cant risk having the big names go out early so they homogenized the shit out of everything
so nole and murray have these crazy SF streaks that are disgraceful.
lendl had to earn his
federer started off as a serve and volleyer
there is a place for slower tennis- but there should also be a place for agressive tennis and also serve and volley
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01-22-2013, 03:16 PM
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Re: Grinding wins agains, speed up the courts or the sport will die.
The top four, three of them are grinders.
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01-22-2013, 03:28 PM
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Re: Grinding wins agains, speed up the courts or the sport will die.
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Originally Posted by NSMv1924
I simply can't believe you wouldn't cheer for your fellow ex-Yugoslav brethren such as Novak 
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Nope. Most Croats hate everything which comes from Serbia, including Novak Djokovic 
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“Does Djokovic resemble myself?” Agassi said. “No, he is even better. He defends really well, while I struggled more in that element of the game. Novak looks totally relaxed when defending, completely calm and the quality of his return is incredible. He is also extremely flexible in his game, which is facilitated by his ability to anticipate his rival’s moves. That is why I think he is a much more versatile player than I was and he is also much more athletic.”
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01-22-2013, 03:29 PM
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#1319
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Re: Grinding wins agains, speed up the courts or the sport will die.
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Originally Posted by Lee
Did you watch tennis during the Rebounce Ace era? If you did, you should know why they get rid of the surface because the damage it did to players 
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Rebound Ace was removed because on higher temperature it is getting very sticky and it caused many injuries to tennis players.
So when is hot rebound ace gets sticky, so there is tendency for shoes to better grip this kind of surface which causes tear up of ankles and knees , especially joints.
But Jerka wouldnt know that because he was small kid back then, when this surface was used on tennis courts around the globe.
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“Does Djokovic resemble myself?” Agassi said. “No, he is even better. He defends really well, while I struggled more in that element of the game. Novak looks totally relaxed when defending, completely calm and the quality of his return is incredible. He is also extremely flexible in his game, which is facilitated by his ability to anticipate his rival’s moves. That is why I think he is a much more versatile player than I was and he is also much more athletic.”
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01-22-2013, 03:30 PM
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#1320
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Re: Grinding wins agains, speed up the courts or the sport will die.
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Originally Posted by pray-for-palestine-and-israel
3 of the top 4 cant play on fast courts without risking early losses to lower ranked players
the ATP cant risk having the big names go out early so they homogenized the shit out of everything
so nole and murray have these crazy SF streaks that are disgraceful.
lendl had to earn his
federer started off as a serve and volleyer
there is a place for slower tennis- but there should also be a place for agressive tennis and also serve and volley
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ban this mug based on his ignorance
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