[Certinfy]

Can't wait till the Federer vs Nadal Roland Garros and Wimbledon Quarter-Finals.

[GOAT = Fed]

Originally Posted by cveks

Nadal leads against Federer in wins 18-10

Wouldn't even be mad if it was 28-0 and still 17>11.

[Typhoon20]

Originally Posted by cveks

Nadal leads against Federer in wins 18-10

But but but but most of them are on clay !

[GOAT = Fed]

Originally Posted by Typhoon20

But but but but most of them are on clay !

Correct.

Surface bias and hence the sample size is too small to count the H2H as a true indicator of the better player.

[GSMnadal]

8 > 2, let's throw that one out there. Federer has never in his life been able to beat Rafa in a big match, other than two times on his favourite surface during his peak against a boy that was playing his first couple grass tournaments as a claycourter.

[GSMnadal]

Originally Posted by abraxas21

he's supertitious. i bet he got used to it and is afraid to take it off.

[GOAT = Fed]

Originally Posted by GSMnadal

8 > 2, let's throw that one out there. Federer has never in his life been able to beat Rafa in a big match, other than two times on his favourite surface during his peak against a boy that was playing his first couple grass tournaments as a claycourter.

May I remind you sir, that Nadal is four years younger than Federer, a pretty large gap in real tennis terms. So in reality there was always going to be a small window of opportunity where they would each other in their prime. Unfortunately due to how bad Nadal was on non clay surfaces early on in his career and even now you see this gap.

[GSMnadal]

Originally Posted by GOAT = Fed

May I remind you sir, that Nadal is four years younger than Federer, a pretty large gap in real tennis terms. So in reality there was always going to be a small window of opportunity where they would each other in their prime. Unfortunately due to how bad Nadal was on non clay surfaces early on in his career and even now you see this gap.

May I remind you, that Federer is responsible for almost as many non clay failure to meets? Check out the 2010-11 seasons for example

[GOAT = Fed]

Originally Posted by GSMnadal

May I remind you, that Federer is responsible for almost as many non clay failure to meets? Check out the 2010-11 seasons for example

And my point is proven.

[Lleyton_]

Nadaltards living in the past. Sad stuff.

[Typhoon20]

Originally Posted by GOAT = Fed

Correct.

Surface bias and hence the sample size is too small to count the H2H as a true indicator of the better player.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by GSMnadal

May I remind you, that Federer is responsible for almost as many non clay failure to meets? Check out the 2010-11 seasons for example

But but but but Federer was way past his prime then.

[cveks]

Originally Posted by Typhoon20

But but but but most of them are on clay !

that doesnt matter. win is win.

[cveks]

Originally Posted by GOAT = Fed

Correct.

Surface bias and hence the sample size is too small to count the H2H as a true indicator of the better player.

H2H proves that Nadal is way better player than Federer. He beats Fed not only on clay, but on hardcourts too, especially on USO and AO . Even on grass .

Federer is underdog in every match against Nadal.

Only where Fed had upper hand is indoors.

[GOAT = Fed]

Originally Posted by cveks

that doesnt matter. win is win.

No one is discarding the win, everyone is just saying that the sample is too biased to be used as a true indicator of who is the better player.

Strong knowledge of basic statistics in this thread.

[GOAT = Fed]

Originally Posted by cveks

but on hardcourts too, especially on USO and AO

brb let's just use one match at each tournament to make it a fact that Nadal > Federer

Strong stats skills

Even on grass

brb Federer leads 2-1 against Nadal on grass. Again, this doesn't even tell us that FEderer is better than Nadal LET ALONE Nadal being better than Federer.