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Old 01-20-2013, 03:10 PM   #1051
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Default Re: Grinding wins agains, speed up the courts or the sport will die.

yeah right, your primary concern is "caring about tennis" and not hate against nole. right.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:10 PM   #1052
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Novak gets through another match not on shotmaking or technical ability but grinding out his opponent a way only possible on ultra slow courts.

Disgusting stuff, Stanislas should've won today but the courts and umpiring is rigged to prevent clowns like Djokovic from ever losing a match before SF.


10 years ago people were crying "Slow down the courts or the sport will die."
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:11 PM   #1053
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it's always sad to see a bunch of grown men crying over a game. but don't worry, the truck full of kleenex is on the way, should be delivered to this topic any moment.

and no, I don't include mark lenders under the "grown man" tag.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:11 PM   #1054
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10 years ago people were crying "Slow down the courts or the sport will die."
I know, and they've went overboard in that direction. Variety is the spice of life. I have no problem with their being slow courts but if 90% of courts on tour are homogenized and slow than their is a problem.
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cmon star, it was so much more fun watching ivanisevic vs rusedski trying to beat crap out of grass
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:15 PM   #1056
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What did you think? Serbtards don't care about tennis, they're merely flagholders.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:17 PM   #1057
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Courts used to be a good balance, each surface had its own quirks and suited different types of players. The French Open champ would regularly bomb out in R1 or R2 of Wimbledon, and vice versa. There would be different SF lineups at every Slam (often with an unseeded specialist making a big run).

Variety is the spice of life. If you didn't like defensive baseliners, then as soon as the clay court season finished it was grass season and S&V. If you didn't like S&V, then the North American hardcourts and the offensive baseliners were up next. The same players would meet twice in a matter of weeks, and would play vastly different matches (often with a different favourite) simply because it was a different surface.

Nowadays you play pretty much the same game on every surface and pretty much everyone plays to their seedings until at least the second week. It's fucking boring.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:18 PM   #1058
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I know, and they've went overboard in that direction. Variety is the spice of life. I have no problem with their being slow courts but if 90% of courts on tour are homogenized and slow than their is a problem.
You are American, right?

"Have went" is not a proper verb construction. It's "have gone." Go, went, gone. I find this error cropping up even among news commenters. I'm fighting a one woman war against it. /digression

I find this argument is all about whose ox is being gored. Also, Fed doesn't like fast courts. Basel slowed the court for him.

Personally, I don't like fast courts. Australia has a faster court this year and especially Laver is faster or so everyone is saying. But, I don't find that Wawa is particularly a fast court player.
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You are American, right?

"Have went" is not a proper verb construction. It's "have gone." Go, went, gone. I find this error cropping up even among news commenters. I'm fighting a one woman war against it. /digression

I find this argument is all about whose ox is being gored. Also, Fed doesn't like fast courts. Basel slowed the court for him.

Personally, I don't like fast courts. Australia has a faster court this year and especially Laver is faster or so everyone is saying. But, I don't find that Wawa is particularly a fast court player.
Well you're a Nadal fangirl of course you're not gonna like fast courts cause he can't win on them.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:22 PM   #1060
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I disagree. The only reason this was a 5 setters was because the courts are faster. I think they should be even faster. But this has nothing to do with tonight's match. Nole did make great shots at match point and other points. Stan just missed his chance. That's all. But yes. Speed up the court. There is no reason one should hit 10 winners to win one point
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:22 PM   #1061
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you know caesar, that's very original post, I've never heard that argument before.

or maybe, just maybe, someone clever figured out that it's going to get ridiculous with 140+ mph serves on courts as fast as they were before? maybe? do you really miss watching someone practicing serves for few hours?
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:23 PM   #1062
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The way i see it...

Ao & USO should be Medium paced courts. Don't particularly favour any style. If possible, you could have one thats medium fast, and one that is medium slow

Wimbledon should be fast, which favours offensive tennis

RG should be Slow, which favours defensive tennis
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I am actually the one who like fast courts, serve and volleying and so and I would like to watch more tennis on fast courts, but to be honest nobody cares about bunch of whiners in a forum. Rocketassist was right when he said "orgasmic reaction of the crowd is one of the key´s reason of slowing down". Certain masses still love to watch these grindfests between TOP players, it´s thrilling for them. Nadal - Djokovic matches are popular if you like it or not. The other reson is that some of the TOP players themselves wanted to slow down the courts. So, players are satisfied, organizers are satisfied because they sell a lot of tickets and certain masses are satisifed too. The sport will not die, I am actually affraid slow courts will be "popular" even more. You are lying to yourself if you think tennis will become less popular because of this and this is coming from a person who don´t like slow conditions.
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you know caesar, that's very original post, I've never heard that argument before.

or maybe, just maybe, someone clever figured out that it's going to get ridiculous with 140+ mph serves on courts as fast as they were before? maybe? do you really miss watching someone practicing serves for few hours?
You seem to think that 'speed up the courts' means 'make everything as fast as Wimby grass in the early 90s'. There wasn't anything wrong with the speed of hardcourts during the early 00s, the AO and USO weren't serve fests back then.

Or here's a novel idea - speed up the courts substantially, but also take away the second serve. Why do players need it anyway? It was invented way back when the game was first designed, because you had uneven flannel balls and rickety old wooden racquets, and serving was so unpredictable that you often needed two goes to get it in. Nowadays it's totally unnecessary, the first serve is just a chance at a free point.
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The way i see it...

Ao & USO should be Medium paced courts. Don't particularly favour any style. If possible, you could have one thats medium fast, and one that is medium slow

Wimbledon should be fast, which favours offensive tennis

RG should be Slow, which favours defensive tennis
USO should be fast, like it was. AO: Slow/Medium Hard Court med/high bounce, FO: Slow Clay high bounce, W: Fast Grass low bounce, USO: Fast Hardcourt natural bounce
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