[EliSter]

And Mugray aint dominating anything.

[Moozza]

Originally Posted by GSMnadal

Understandable, who likes Murray?

Many people including James Bond, Kevin Spacey, myself and Sir Alex Ferguson.

[Time Violation]

Originally Posted by GSMnadal

No, because Federer was. And as for the clay court specialist part, look above at the numbers. So disrespectful you two with these comments

He had a good head start and just because he managed to snatch 2 HC slams doesn't mean he was best on hard. Let's wait few more years and see how the title count is going to look like. Since 2008 Nadal has won only 1 (one) HC masters.

[Saberq]

Originally Posted by Moozza

Many people including James Bond, Kevin Spacey, myself and Sir Alex Ferguson.

I like that you come before Sir Alex Ferguson........and James Bond is a fictional character.....going by that logic you can include Snow White and Fellowship of the Ring too

[Moozza]

Originally Posted by Saberq

I like that you come before Sir Alex Ferguson........and James Bond is a fictional character.....going by that logic you can include Snow White and Fellowship of the Ring too

Well Sean Connery then. The fact is Murray has may fans and his fans are all great people.

[Just like heaven]

British media trying to make me cheer for Fed at AO.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ten...ovic-over.html

[VamosRafaNadal]

Originally Posted by Punky

im not sure its not anymore
i still think this is rafa fav tournament but his more Successful tournament is RG.
I do not see a contradiction between loving one more and be more Successful in other

I'm not sure too. He is the King of Clay, but he said that for him grass has been always a nice surface to play on. In fact, grass seems a little bit 'exotic', as Nadal can't practice on grass on Manacor (only when he is out of home), where he practices on clay and indoor/outdoor hard court. And, of course, because of the importance that ATP gives to grass (unfortunately).

[Punky]

Originally Posted by VamosRafaNadal

I'm not sure too. He is the King of Clay, but he said that for him grass has been always a nice surface to play on. In fact, grass seems a little bit 'exotic', as Nadal can't practice on grass on Manacor (only when he is out of home), where he practices on clay and indoor/outdoor hard court. And, of course, because of the importance that ATP gives to grass (unfortunately).

sadly the grass season is so short
im not suprised rafa find wimby 'exotic', i think if u will ask tennis players, men and woman - if they could win a slam what will be their wish, i believe 99% will say wimby so rafa is no different

[Allez]

Originally Posted by Just like heaven

British media trying to make me cheer for Fed at AO.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ten...ovic-over.html

Can't believe they said the following about Rogi...

Last month, while Murray was punishing his mind and body at a 'boot camp' in Miami during the off-season to be fitter than ever, Federer undertook a gruelling 13-day tour of Argentina, Brazil and Colombia that reportedly earned him £7.4million for six exhibition matches.

The money came at a cost to his preparation for 2013, begging the question: was he cashing in while he could still command such exorbitant appearance fees?

Unquestionably, it was a commercial opportunity.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ten...#ixzz2HnTIcSRd
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[Looner]

It's the Daily Mail - what do you expect. I hold many of MTF's members, including heya, as a better-informed on the issue of tennis .

[bounccer]

Nadal is amazing on hard courts when he's at his top level, but when he plays average, he's much more vulnerable than on the others surface. Djokovic is not better on grass, probably worse despite his Wimbledon title.

Federer on clay = Nadal on hard (the field is way tougher on hard courts than on clay) > Djokovic on grass > Murray on clay

[End da Game]

Originally Posted by bounccer

Nadal is amazing on hard courts when he's at his top level, but when he plays average, he's much more vulnerable than on the others surface. Djokovic is not better on grass, probably worse despite his Wimbledon title.

Federer on clay = Nadal on hard (the field is way tougher on hard courts than on clay) > Djokovic on grass > Murray on clay

hard courts are the most relevant surface in tennis, its no surprise that players don't put anywhere near as much effort into grass and clay

wimbledon right now is without doubt the most competitive-less grand slam, hence why thats where murray is most likely to vulture another slam, NOT in AO and USO where he'll get real competition like delpotro and djokovic

[Saberq]

Originally Posted by End da Game

hard courts are the most relevant surface in tennis, its no surprise that players don't put anywhere near as much effort into grass and clay

wimbledon right now is without doubt the most competitive-less grand slam, hence why thats where murray is most likely to vulture another slam, NOT in AO and USO where he'll get real competition like delpotro and djokovic

cant wait for murray delpo match to see your reaction after it

[Punky]

Originally Posted by bounccer

Nadal is amazing on hard courts when he's at his top level, but when he plays average, he's much more vulnerable than on the others surface. Djokovic is not better on grass, probably worse despite his Wimbledon title.

Federer on clay = Nadal on hard (the field is way tougher on hard courts than on clay) > Djokovic on grass > Murray on clay

I agree with part of our post
If fed wouldnt have to face the best clay court ever he would have had 6 RG titles, 5 he lost to rafa and 1 he has

Can u say the same about rafa? He lost 2 HC slams to nole, won one in 2010 and 2009 and that's it

Fed is better on clay then rafa on HC

Rafa stopped the "beast" he could have had 5 AO 6 RG 8 wimby

But I'm all if competition, it's best for everyone

[Mountaindewslave]

Originally Posted by Punky

but rafa didnt win a non clay title since USO 2010
that say alot about his 'all-court player' no?

recall he made many hard court finals in 2011 as well as Wimbledon Final, US Open, Australian OPen 2012 and then was out for the majority of the hard court portion of the 2012 season

his results in 2011 and the portion of 2012 he played actually support him as being a very good hard court player, I mean he made 2 hard court slam finals in a row 2011-2012

it is an illusion that just because you don't win the hard court title, you're a bad hard court player. people point out this drought of non clay titles yet ignore the unusual nature of how many finals he lost in 2011