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Old 11-27-2012, 12:23 PM   #856
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For those interested, the second image that is created at each automated scheduled update is now present in the OP, expanding the directly viewable player list to the Top 800.
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Any idea when the 2013 rule book will be released?
2013 rulebook is out. No ranking rule change
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Old 12-09-2012, 03:12 AM   #859
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2013 rulebook is out. No ranking rule change
Thanks. Could you tell where I could get it? I can't seem to find it.
What about the ITF Rules of Tennis?

From what I understand, the let is going to be eliminated from the Challenger tour for the first three months of 2013. Can someone confirm this?

Also, does the change in rules for the time violation also apply to ITF matches? Especially Grand slams.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:11 AM   #860
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Thanks. Could you tell where I could get it? I can't seem to find it.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Corporate/Rulebook.aspx


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What about the ITF Rules of Tennis?
http://beta.itftennis.com/procircuit...and-forms.aspx

not updated for 2013 yet

For the challenger question, I don't think it's in the rulebook as it's just an experiment so far.

For the time violation rule in grand slams, we have to wait for the 2013 ITF rules but I don't think the time violation change applies to grand slams as usually the time violation rules are very different in grand slams and on the ATP tour
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:00 PM   #861
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Thanks. Could you tell where I could get it? I can't seem to find it.
What about the ITF Rules of Tennis?

From what I understand, the let is going to be eliminated from the Challenger tour for the first three months of 2013. Can someone confirm this?

Also, does the change in rules for the time violation also apply to ITF matches? Especially Grand slams.
Yes, they are going to test a new let rule in Challenger

http://straightsets.blogs.nytimes.co...-pace-of-play/

No for the time violation question. But who knows the ITF may make some changes too. Specially the let rule if the ATP officially adopts it


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Until I return on January 7th, I leave you with hope that the automated system doesn't fail. If it does, it's probably a power outage or ATP/ITF changing something on their websites.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:51 PM   #863
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So Nadal will lose 90 points from Doha and 1200 points from AO, leaving him at 5400.
This means that even if Ferrer loses in the first round at AO, he will become #4(unless Berdych wins AO) once the AO points are dropped(when will this happen? this change of schedule every year is getting on my nerves).

Nadal has enough points to stay at #5 unless Berdych reaches the AO final or DelPotro wins AO.
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So Nadal will lose 90 points from Doha and 1200 points from AO, leaving him at 5400.
This means that even if Ferrer loses in the first round at AO, he will become #4(unless Berdych wins AO) once the AO points are dropped(when will this happen? this change of schedule every year is getting on my nerves).

Nadal has enough points to stay at #5 unless Berdych reaches the AO final or DelPotro wins AO.
it will happen after the AO. Ferrer will be at worst number 4 (he can be number 3 if he reaches AO final and Murray doesn't reach QF) unless Berdych wins the Australian open and Chennai and Ferrer loses before QF, or Berdych wins the Australian open only and Ferrer loses before R16.
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Ferrer really should be #4 at the FO now.
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it will happen after the AO. Ferrer will be at worst number 4 (he can be number 3 if he reaches AO final and Murray doesn't reach QF) unless Berdych wins the Australian open and Chennai and Ferrer loses before QF, or Berdych wins the Australian open only and Ferrer loses before R16.
Well, of course. How did I get confused there? It is exactly 52 weeks.

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Ferrer really should be #4 at the FO now.
For RG seeding, Nadal has only 2090 points, whereas Ferrer has about 4740(I think).
If Ferrer reaches a QF and nothing more in AO,IW,Miami, Madrid, Rome,Acapulco and Valencia, he will be at 5840(which is clearly a very low estimate). If Nadal does a clean swep of the clay season(3 TMS, 1 500) and nothing in HC, it will still not be enough to reach even this low estimate.

So, I would say Nadal being outside the top#4 for RG is pretty much a given now. And unless Ferrer or Del Potro surprise us all, Ferrer will the seeded #4(at minimum) for RG.

If Nadal gets drawn in Ferrers quarter for RG, there would be more screaming of fixed draws than MTF has ever seen before. If not, we will have the most interesting GS QF(on paper) of the past decade(if not more).
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Well, of course. How did I get confused there? It is exactly 52 weeks.



For RG seeding, Nadal has only 2090 points, whereas Ferrer has about 4740(I think).
If Ferrer reaches a QF and nothing more in AO,IW,Miami, Madrid, Rome,Acapulco and Valencia, he will be at 5840(which is clearly a very low estimate). If Nadal does a clean swep of the clay season(3 TMS, 1 500) and nothing in HC, it will still not be enough to reach even this low estimate.

So, I would say Nadal being outside the top#4 for RG is pretty much a given now. And unless Ferrer or Del Potro surprise us all, Ferrer will the seeded #4(at minimum) for RG.

If Nadal gets drawn in Ferrers quarter for RG, there would be more screaming of fixed draws than MTF has ever seen before. If not, we will have the most interesting GS QF(on paper) of the past decade(if not more).
Wtf, Nadal - Ferrer most interesting QF in past decade. Nadal will str8 Ferrer per usual even in wheelchair with right hand while having bad dhiarera.
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Wtf, Nadal - Ferrer most interesting QF in past decade. Nadal will str8 Ferrer per usual even in wheelchair with right hand while having bad dhiarera.
Read my post carefully. I said "If Nadal is drawn in Ferrers quarter.... If not it will be the most interesting..."
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It jumps from #53 to #401, what's up with that?
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It jumps from #53 to #401, what's up with that?
Not for me, no gaps of any kind anywhere.
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