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Old 12-29-2012, 05:35 PM   #31
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(the same award no-slam and no-gold Henman has)

It boils my piss.
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He's still young,i'm sure he'll be knighted next Olympics.
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Old 12-29-2012, 07:54 PM   #33
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He's still young,i'm sure he'll be knighted next Olympics.
Yeah because it's guaranteed he's going to win gold.
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Only idiots make a big deal of Sir or Dame awards.

Should Hillsborough families/campaigners accept honours given to them by a state that lied to them for 23 years?
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Only idiots make a big deal of Sir or Dame awards.

Should Hillsborough families/campaigners accept honours given to them by a state that lied to them for 23 years?
That's up to them isn't it
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This was expected.

No way Andy was going to get a Knighthood at this age without a Wimbledon title. For sure he'll get one when he's at least finished his tennis career. If anything it just sets up the dream Wimbledon title with the Knighthood to go along with it which would be amazing.
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That's up to them isn't it
Yes and they'd rightly tell them to shove it.
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I don't think someone should be made a Sir or Dame (or any of the other awards) just because they won a gold medal at the Olympics. These awards should be for a lifetime of achievement and service not just something you do in one year.
With the emphasis on *service*. Note that most popular entertainers don't get honours for, say, selling millions of records, cinema tickets etc. - that's how they make their money, and is inherently selfish, as it benefits them: they get honours for services to charities, good works and so on. Equally, being successful in your chosen career is what you get paid for: you aren't awarded honours for running X 100 m races in the IAAF calendar or Y grand slams, any more than I'd be awarded one for, say, clocking up 20 million words written, or something - good grief, if Roger Federer were British I wouldn't be recommending that he be knighted, even with *17* GS. Olympic medals are perhaps a different matter, because you are winning something for your country, but you need to do a lot more than win just one to merit a knighthood. As it is, I'm surprised that Murray (and others) have skipped the MBE stage (I don't think a lot of previous medallists did) and gone straight to OBE, but I'll put that down to the Government trying to inflate the importance of the honours being awarded.

And I definitely think that knighthoods (and damehoods, or whatever the word is) should be reserved for those who are the end of their careers, or close to it. They should crown a "life" of achievement in a sport, not be awarded at the first serious success. Consequently, I'm a little uncomfortable with Chris Hoy having been awarded one while he was still racing, irrespective of his achievements.
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Yes and they'd rightly tell them to shove it.
No offense, but what does Hillsborough have to do with any of this?
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No offense, but what does Hillsborough have to do with any of this?
Generally there's reasons for turning down honours and there were rumours a few Justice campaigners were offered them. Danny Boyle the Olympic opening ceremony creator turned his down too for different reasons.
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Red Ken also turned down a knighthood because he is a politician. He is right, politicians should not be knighted at all....and Thatcher was made a Baroness
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Red Ken also turned down a knighthood because he is a politician. He is right, politicians should not be knighted at all....and Thatcher was made a Baroness
Wow I didn't know they offered knighthoods to commies.
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He was mayor when London got the Olympics.
He was very involved in the whole process even though Boris stole the show this past 2 years on the London 2012.
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