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Old 12-28-2012, 12:29 AM   #61
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Default Re: Your expectations for Federer in 2013.

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I would be surprised if Fed won a slam next year, but that story about "stars aligning" can be said for many slam winners.

What if Fed had not defeated Djokovic in RG 2011 final ? would Nadal have won ? the semifinal depended on a very few points, and Djokovic was in a great streak against Nadal, and Nadal felt unconfident against him, as it showed in Wimbledon final.

What if Fed had converted his match points against Djokovic in the USO 2011 semifinal ? Moya and Toni Nadal firmly believe that Nadal was the real loser that day, not Fed.

Djokovic's win in the AO 2012 also depended on a few points

etc etc ... most slam wins partly depend on luck, very very seldom it's not the case.

There's a big contradiction between the big part of hazard in all that and the fans' definitive assertions about "this will never happen" etc ...

And Fed could be luckier than having to face Djokovic and Murray to win Wimbledon. For instance he was luckier in AO 2010.

I don't get that idea that some have that Fed's success or not only depends on Nadal : outside of clay, he can very well defeat Nadal anyway, and he can very well be defeated by many other players : Djokovic is by far the favorite against him, Murray has a leading H2H, Berdych, Del Po, Tsonga ...
I agree to an extent. Obviously Federer has only been dominated by Nadal on clay throughout his career.

But the fact remains that Federer has not beaten Nadal in a major since 2007. They have met since then on all surfaces in majors (although never at the US Open, as we all know). Federer has not bested Nadal once. That's now, what, five times in five years without a win over five sets?

Based on these stats, it would be hard to argue that Federer hasn't got a FAR bigger chance of winning a major NOW if Nadal is not around, or is carrying an injury (or whatever it is this time).
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Old 12-28-2012, 12:58 AM   #62
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Default Re: Your expectations for Federer in 2013.

I said I would edit the OP but I'm just gonna join in the discussion here.

I think Roger is winning his final slam next year guys, and it's going to happen at the USO. He has one more left in him. I can feel it. The last few years he has really clowned up in New York and I think he is due. No more Olympics ti tire him out. He will play both Canada and Cincy and do well. Then he will beat Murray in the semis and Djokovic in the final of the USO. That should have happened this year but clearly he was tired from a long year. His schedule is reduced in 2013 and he will focus on the slams. A record 6th USO is all I really care about. He has done everything else. Getting back to #1 is not important either. He now has the record.
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I expect Federer to play poorly early in the year and then rebound strongly after everyone says he is finished. Finding motivation must be hard when you've accomplished so much.
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:27 AM   #64
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Default Re: Your expectations for Federer in 2013.

I believe that Federer will fall in 2013. Down the rankings. I think the game iscatching up to him, he is now vulnerabel to players like Berdshit and Bellucci. Meanwhile Del Potro is now a force, Djokovic is coming back strongly and we all Nadal will vamos back next year after he is properly rested. I hate it but Murray will also be a factor. Plus players like Janowicz are suddenly playing better than before. Plus they might be a breakout player next year that we don't know yet.

Federer himslef. His game has gone down a bit, just enough for the younger generation to catapult over him. Federer has enough game to stay competitive in masters. He will focus on the Slams. He will go deep in a few. But I am confiendt he will fail to win one next year.

All this equals Federer falling down to 5 or 6 in the rankings at the conslusion of 2013. and then the question is, will he be ready to play as the 5 or 6 player for 2014.
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I said I would edit the OP but I'm just gonna join in the discussion here.

I think Roger is winning his final slam next year guys, and it's going to happen at the USO. He has one more left in him. I can feel it. The last few years he has really clowned up in New York and I think he is due. No more Olympics ti tire him out. He will play both Canada and Cincy and do well. Then he will beat Murray in the semis and Djokovic in the final of the USO. That should have happened this year but clearly he was tired from a long year. His schedule is reduced in 2013 and he will focus on the slams. A record 6th USO is all I really care about. He has done everything else. Getting back to #1 is not important either. He now has the record.
I would be shocked if that happens......in that order still
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:29 AM   #66
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I would be shocked if that happens......in that order still
You were shocked the last 4 times the GOAT won a slam mate. You will never learn.
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You were shocked the last 4 times the GOAT won a slam mate. You will never learn.
not really last 4 time(RG 09,W 09,AO 10,W 11)were all the events Nadal was injured allowing Federer to fluke some of those Slams.............I was not shocked at all
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Nadal is an injured since when he was born.So it is his ready excuse
but if go on court you are ready to play.No one cares what you are going to say after the match win is a win and loss is a loss. Was not he injured at AO12 but he went to the final and played six hours
brutal tennis match.
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Default Re: Your expectations for Federer in 2013.

1. Stay in Top 5
2. USO final against Djokovic (still sad that didn't happen this year and we got the worst GS final ever instead)
3. Would be great to see win his 18th slam (preferably at Wimbledon)
4. Beat Mugray again in a slam
5. Beat Nadal again in a slam (but I really don't like the chances of that happening...)
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one more wimbledon will do it !
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:14 AM   #71
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That's now, what, five times in five years without a win over five sets?
2 Roland-Garros, 2 Australian open (slow hardcourt, first match in 5 sets and Fed was the most dominant during first 4 sets, last one in the only cold day of the fortnight, slowest possible conditions), 1 Wimbledon (9-7 in final set).

Nadal is 8-4 against Fed since that FO 2008 final (included)

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Based on these stats, it would be hard to argue that Federer hasn't got a FAR bigger chance of winning a major NOW if Nadal is not around, or is carrying an injury (or whatever it is this time).
bigger chance yes, far bigger, absolutely no. He can lose to many other players and so can Nadal (notably to Djokovic, and Nadal was near to losing in Wimbledon early rounds several times before the Rosol-match, like Federer against Falla or Benneteau)
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Maybe wins one slam. A couple of masters1000. Remains top 3.
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:37 AM   #73
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Top 4 is a mess so he'll probably win one or two just from getting to play Murray in a final or Djokovic at Wimbledon. Unless Nadal storms back, whcih seems to me the most likely thing since his ego "injury" from losing to Rosol should be behind him.

I expect AO: Djokovic def. Murray RG: Nadal def. Ferrer Wimb: Fed d. Nadal USO: Fed d. Isner. 2 slams to Fed
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Australian Open:Makes Final; loses to Djokovic
Rotterdam... Wins over Del Potro
Dubai.... Wins Tournament over Djokovic
Indian Wells... Loses to Raonic in the QF
Madrid.... Loses in the SF against Djokovic
Rome... Loses SF against Nadal
French Open... Wins Tournament over Djokovic
Halle... Wins Tournament over Raonic
Wimbledon...Wins Final against Nadal
Toronto... Pulls out due to some "niggling injuries"
Cincinnati... Wins Tournament over Murray
US Open... Loses in SF against Nadal
Swiss Indoor- Adds it during the year, Wins over Del Potro
Shanghai... Loses in Final agains Murray
Paris... Loses Final against Tsonga..
London: Wins Tournament, beats Murray in Final

I'm predicting 7 titles, and 2 slams. The big surprise on the list is the Win at the French Open. He's better on clay than people think and I think he avoids Nadal in the draw (Djokovic beats him in the Semi) and wins the tournament.
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I just want another GS, 8th Wimbledon would be almost so good he could retire, but i'll take any of the slams

and also to keep his GS QF streak going, would be fantastic if he could keep it going till RG 2014 as that would mark a full 10 years

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