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Playing to seeds in Grand Slams
Here is a look at the best and worst progression of players 'playing to their seeds' in GS events in the open era. This covers 176 GS main draws. I have checked the forum and not seen something similar, so if I missed something, please let me know. And I apologize for any mistakes or typos, there are some fairly long lists that are quite similar and easy to mess up at times.
For this, I assume in an 'ideal' QF, for example, seeds 18 would all be playing.
Final (ideal: #1 v. #2)
Most:
2  40 times (8 AO, 7 RG, 13 W, 12 USO)
In the Open era, the longest streak of #1 v. #2 finals is at Wimbledon, where Federer twice faced Roddick and thrice Nadal.
Least:
0  56 times (12 AO, 23 RG, 9 W, 12 USO)
In the period between 1988 and 2005, the #1 and #2 seed both failed to make the RG final 15 times out of 18.
Most 'Surprising':
1996 Wimbledon (#17 Krajicek d. Washington)
Krajicek earned a seed only after seeds above him pulled out.
Semifinals (ideal: #1, #2, #3, #4)
Most:
4  15 times (4 AO, 4 RG, 2 W, 5 USO)
1969 USO (#1 Laver  #3 Roche  #2 Newcombe, #4 Ashe)
1982 USO (#2 Connors  #3 Lendl  #1 McEnroe, #4 Vilas)
1984 RG (#2 Lendl  #1 McEnroe  #3 Connors, #4 Wilander)
1985 RG (#4 Wilander  #2 Lendl  #1 McEnroe, #3 Connors)
1985 USO (#2 Lendl  #1 McEnroe  #3 Wilander, #4 Connors)
1988 AO (#3 Wilander  #4 Cash  #1 Lendl, #2 Edberg)
1992 USO (#2 Edberg  #3 Sampras  #1 Courier, #4 Chang)
1993 W (#1 Sampras  #3 Courier  #2 Edberg, #4 Becker)
1995 W (#2 Sampras  #3 Becker  #1 Agassi, #4 Ivanisevic)
2005 AO (#4 Safin  #3 Hewitt  #1 Federer, #2 Roddick)
2006 RG (#2 Nadal  #1 Federer  #3 Ljubicic, #4 Nalbandian)
2011 RG (#1 Nadal  #3 Federer  #3 Djokovic, #4 Murray)
2011 USO (#1 Djokovic  #2 Nadal  #3 Federer, #4 Murray)
2012 AO (#1 Djokovic  #2 Nadal  #3 Federer, #4 Murray)
2013 AO (#1 Djokovic  #3 Murray  #2 Federer, #4 Ferrer)
Least:
0  14 times (4 AO, 8 RG, 2 W)
1970 RG (#7 Kodec  #5 Franulovic  #8 Richey, #14 Goven)
1976 RG (#8 Panatta  #7 Solomon  #5 Ramirez, #6 Dibbs)
1983 RG (#6 Noah  #5 Wilander  #8 Higueras, RogerVasselin)
1992 W (#12 Agassi  #8 Ivanisevic  #5 Sampras, McEnroe)
1994 RG (#6 Bruguera  Berasategui  #7 Courier, Larsson)
1995 RG (#5 Muster  #6 Chang  #7 Bruguera, #9 Kafelnikov)
1996 W (#17 Kraijcek  Washington  #13 Martin, Stoltenberg)
1997 RG (Kuerten  #16 Bruguera  Dewulf, Rafter)
1998 AO (#6 Korda  #9 Rios  Kucera, Escude)
1998 RG (#12 Moya  #14 Corretja  #15 Mantilla, Pioline)
1999 AO (#10 Kafelnikov  Enqvist  Haas, Lapentti)
1999 RG (#13 Agassi  Medvedev  Hrbaty, Meligeni)
2001 AO (#6 Agassi  #15 Clement  #16 Grosjean, #12 Rafter)
2002 AO (#16 Johansson  #9 Safin  #7 Haas, #26 Novak)
Quarterfinals (ideal: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Most:
7  6 times (1 AO, 3 RG, 1 W, 1 USO))
1969 W (#1 Laver  #6 Newcombe  #2 Roche, #5 Ashe  #3 Okker, #7 Graebner, #8 Drysdale, Lutz)
1976 RG (#8 Panatta  #7 Solomon  #5 Ramirez, #6 Dibbs  #1 Borg, #2 Vilas, #3 Orantes, Taroczy)
1983 RG (#6 Noah  #5 Wilander  #8 Higueras, RogerVasselin  #1 Connors, #2 McEnroe, #3 Lendl, #4 Vilas)
1984 RG (#2 Lendl  #1 McEnroe  #3 Connors, #4 Wilander  #5 Arias, #6 Noah, #7 Gomez, #9 Sundstrom)
2009 AO (#1 Nadal  #2 Federer  #7 Roddick, #14 Verdasco  #3 Djokovic, #5 Tsonga, #6 Simon, #8 del Potro)
2012 USO (#3 Murray  #2 Djokovic  #4 Ferrer, #6 Berdych  #1 Federer, #7 Del Potro, #8 Tipsarevic, #12 Cilic)
[left]In a crazy coincidence, the 83 and 84 RG share the record, and also appear in the semifinals listed above, but for different reasons: in 83, none of the top 4 seeds made the semis, and in 84 all 4 did. The 83 tournament's 4 losses from the top 4 seeds in the QF round is the only time this happened in the Open Era.
/LEFT]
Least:
1  7 times (2 AO, 2 RG, 1 W, 2 USO)
1968 W (#1 Laver  #15 Roche  #13 Ashe, Graebner  #9 Ralston, #10 Buchholz, #12 Okker, Moore)
1994 USO (Agassi  #4 Stich  #9 Martin, Novacek  #13 Muster, Yzaga, Bjorkman, Karbacher)
1997 RG (Kuerten  #16 Bruguera  DeWulf, Rafter  #3 Kafelnikov, Norman, Blanco, Arazi)
1997 USO (#13 Rafter  Rusedski  #2 Chang, Bjorkman  #10 Rios, #15 Korda, Kraijcek, Larsson)
1998 RG (#12 Moya  #14 Corretja  #15 Mantilla, Pioline  #3 Rios, Muster, DeWulf, Arazi)
1999 AO (#10 Kafelnikov  Enqvist  Haas, Lapentti  #7 Kucera, #15 Martin, Spadea, Rosset)
2002 AO (#16 Johansson  #9 Safin  #7 Haas, #26 Novak  Rios, Ferreira, Koubek, Bjorkman)
The 1997 RG tournament featured just two seeds in the last 8, while the 2002 Australian was a 32 seed tournament that had 4 unseeded players in the quarters.
Round of 16 (ideal: #1#16)
I will mention, but with a caveat, the AOs of the early 70s, which boast strong records for the top 16, but with draws of only 64.
15  1970 AO (#4 Ashe  #12 Crealy  #6 Raltson, #8 Taylor  #1 Roche, #2 Newcombe, #3 Okker, #10 Ruffles  #5 Smith, #7 Pilic, #9 Lutz, #11 Stone, #13 Bowrey, #14 Alexander, #15 Battrick, Dent)
14  1971 AO (#2 Rosewall  #3 Ashe  #4 Okker, Lutz  #6 Emerson, #10 Riessen, #12 Drysdale, #15 Cox  #1 Laver, #5 Roche, #7 Newcombe, #8 Taylor, #11 Ralston, #14 Stolle, #15 El Shafei, Giltinan)
13  1974 AO (#2 Connors  #9 Dent  #3 Alexander, #8 Case  #1 Newcombe, #6 Dibley, #7 Parun, #10 Crealy, #12 Stone, #13 Giltinan, #15 Ball, Zednik  #4 Borg, #14 PhillipsMoore, N'Godrella, Hancock)
Most:
14  2 times (1 AO, 1 USO)
2007 AO (#1 Federer  #10 Gonzalez  #6 Roddick, #12 Haas  #2 Nadal, #3 Djokovic, #7 Robredo, Fish  #5 Blake, #8 Nalbandian, #9 Ancic, #13 Berdych, #14 Djokovic, #15 Murray, #16 Ferrer, #18 Gasquet)
2009 USO (#6 Del Potro  #1 Federer  #3 Nadal, #4 Djokovic  #10 Verdasco, #11 Gonzalez, #12 Sodrling, #16 Cilic  #2 Murray, #7 Tsonga, #8 Davydenko, #13 Monfils, #14 Robredo, #15 Stepanek, #24 Ferrero, Isner)
W Best  13  1 time
1969 W (#1 Laver  #6 Newcombe  #2 Roche, #5 Ashe  #3 Okker, #7 Graebner, #8 Drysdale, Lutz  #9 Emerson, #10 Gimeno, #11 Stolle, #12 Gonzales, #15 Ralston, #16 Smith, Alexander, Wilson)
RG Best  13  3 times
1970 RG (#7 Kodes  #5 Franulovic  #8 Richey, #14 Goven  #1 Nastase, #4 Ashe, #11 Jauffret, Mulligan  #3 Santana, #9 Metreveli, #10 Tiriac, #12 Hoad, #13 Orantes, #16 Crealey, Fillol Sr, Panatta)
1976 RG (#8 Panatta  #7 Solomon  #5 Ramirez, #6 Dibbs  #1 Borg, #2 Vilas, #3 Orantes, Taroczy  #4 Ashe, #10 Gottfried, #11 Fibak, #14 Fillol Sr, #15 Barazzutti, #16 Jauffret, Mignot, Franulovic)
1988 RG (#3 Wilander  #11 Leconte  #9 Agassi, Svensson  #1 Lendl, #12 Sanchez, #14 Chesnokov, #15 PerezRoldan  #2 Edberg, #4 Cash, #5 Becker, #6 Noah, #7 Carlsson, #16 McEnroe, Agenor, Gustafsson)
Least:
2  1 time (1 W)
2002 W (#1 Hewitt  #28 Nalbandian  #4 Henman, #27 Malisse  #18 Schalken, #22 Lapentti, Sa, Krajicek  #23 Rusedski, Youzhny, Vacek, Kratochvil, Lopez, Philippoussis, Arthurs, Clement)
AO Least  4  1 time
1998 AO (#6 Korda  #9 Rios  Kucera, Escude  #1 Sampras, #4 Bjorkman, Kiefer, Berasategui  Arazi, Fromberg, Black, Pioline, Woodbridge, Raoux, Roux, Agassi)
RG Least  4  1 time
2008 RG (#2 Nadal  #1 Federer  #3 Djokovic, Monfils  #5 Ferrer, #19 Almagro, #24 Gonzalez, Gulbis  #18 Mathieu, #21 Stepanek, #22 Verdasco, #28 Ljubicic, Benneteau, Ginepri, Llodra, Chardy)
USO Least  5  3 times
1971 USO (#2 Smith  Kodes  #3 Ashe, #4 Okker  #5 Riessen, #7 Graebner, Froehling, Osborne  Lutz, Carmichael, Alexander, Orantes, Moore, Taylor, Pilic, Holecek)
1998 USO (#2 Wilander  #1 Lendl  #4 Agassi, Cahill  #3 Edberg, #6 Connors, Rostagno, Krickstein, Sanchez  Hlasek, Agenor, Chang, Lozano, Laurendeau, Frawley, Woodforde)
2004 USO (#1 Federer  #4 Hewitt  #5 Henman, #28 Johansson  #2 Roddick, #6 Agassi, #22 Hrbaty, Haas  #18 Robredo, #19 Kiefer, Pavel, Sargsian, Rochus, Berdych, Beck, Llodra)
Plaese let me know if there are any errors or things missing
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Reason: Updated through W 2013



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01312009, 09:19 AM

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Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams
It's an interesting read for all of those claiming "there was more competition" "era of mugs" etc in one time or another.
But when did seeding start in GS and for what number? Would be interesting to know. Or am I mistaken and it has always been the same? (don't think so)



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Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams
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Originally Posted by Aurora
It's an interesting read for all of those claiming "there was more competition" "era of mugs" etc in one time or another.
But when did seeding start in GS and for what number? Would be interesting to know. Or am I mistaken and it has always been the same? (don't think so)

Ah, thanks for bringing that up, it probably should have been mentioned. I'm not sure on the start offhand, I only have open era data at easy grasp, but there have been seeding changes.
Since 2001, of course, all GSs have had 32 seeds, up from 16, but that obviously doesn't matter for this post. Since 1977 all GSs were 16 seed affairs.
There are a few pre1977 Open Era exceptions to the 16 seed rule, at least according to ATP results:
1975 AO had no seeds, and was only a 32player draw.
1976 and January 1977 had just two seeds each.
Wimbledon had 8 seeds from 1971 until 1973. Before this, it had 16, at least during the Open Era, and it actually had 12 in 1974 before returning to 16 (though I'm not 100% this 12 may not be an error)
The 1971 US Open also had just 8 seeds. All Open Era RGs have had 16 seeds.
This is the recent history of seeding as the ATP draws present them, perhaps someone with more historical knowledge than I can fill in prior history
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01312009, 09:45 AM

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Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams
With a NadalFederer, #1 v. #2 final now set for AO 2009, the number of 12s in the Open Era has increased to 34, and the Australian has tied Roland Garros with 6.
The Aussie Open this year is the 9th #1#2 final in the past 6 years, coming after an eight year period with only one.



05302009, 07:46 PM

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Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams
This year's RG ties the record for most seeded players in the Round of 16, with 15/16 seeded. However, just 12 of these players are top 16 seeds, which leaves it short of the overall record of 14, and the RG record of 13.
With two top 8 seeds (Simon and Djokovic) out before the R16 starts, 2009 RG will not threaten any of the other records (expect with another #1#2 final as a possibility).



05302009, 11:02 PM

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Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams
Based on a point that came up in a GM post, here's a similar look, but at all seeded players, rather than just the 'ideal' seeds. Obviously, these lists are heavily dependent on the 32 seed change, with recent years tending to feature more prominently.
Final
Of the eligible GS finals I am considering, just 29 had an unseeded player in the final. Only one, '96 Wimbledon, did not have a top 16 seed. Just 6 unseeded players have won a modernera GS: 1982 RG (Wilander), 1985 W (Becker), 1994 USO (Agassi), 1997 RG (Kuerten), 2001 W (Ivanisevic), 2004 RG (Gaudio).
Semifinals
Most:
4  80 times (17 AO, 19 RG, 18 W, 26 USO)
Note that 7 of the AO occurrences happened with draws smaller than 128.
Least:
1  4 times (1 AO, 2 RG, 1 W)
1997 W (#1 Sampras  Pioline  Woodbridge, Stich)
1997 RG (Kuerten  #16 Bruguera  Dewulf, Rafter)
1999 AO (#10 Kafelnikov  Enqvist  Haas, Lapentti)
1999 RG (#13 Agassi  Medvedev  Hrbaty, Meligeni)
US Open Least  2  2 times
1994 USO (Agassi  #4 Stick  Novacek, #9 Martin)
1997 USO (#13 Rafter  Rusedski  Bjorkman, #2 Chang)
Quarterfinals
Most:
8  13 times (3 AO, 2 RG, 5 USO), 3 W)
1968 USO (#5 Ashe  #8 Okker  #3 Rosewall, #7 Graebner  #4 Newcombe, #6 Ralston, #13 Gonzales, #16 Drysdale)
1970 AO (#4 Ashe #12 Crealy  #8 Taylor, #6 Ralston  #1 Roche, #3 Okker, #10 Ruffels, #2 Newcombe)
1975 W (#6 Ashe  #1 Connors  #11 Tanner, #16 Roche  #8 Ramirez, #4 Vilas, #3 Borg, #9 Okker)
1984 RG (#2 Lendl  #1 McEnroe  #3 Connors, #4 Wilander  #5 Arias, #6 Noah, #7 Gomez, #9 Sundstrom)
2002 RG (#20 Costa #11 Ferrero  #18 Corretja, #2 Safin  #15 Canas, #22 Pavel, #4 Agassi, #10 Grosjean)
2002 USO (#17 Sampras  #6 Agassi  #1 Hewitt, #24 Schalken  #20 El Aynaoui, #32 Mirnyi, #11 Roddick, #28 Gonzalez)
2003 USO (#4 Roddick  #3 Ferrero  #1 Agassi, #13 Nalbandian  #5 Coria, #6 Hewitt, #12 Schalken, #22 El Aynaoui)
2005 AO (#4 Safin #3 Hewitt  #1 Federer, #2 Roddick  #8 Agassi, #20 Hrbaty, #9 Nalbandian, #26 Davydenko)
2005 W (#1 Federer  #2 Roddick  #3 Hewitt, #12 Johansson  #21 Gonzalez, #26 Lopez, #18 Nalbandian, #9 Grosjea
2007 W (#1 Federer  #2 Nadal  #12 Gasquet, #4 Djokovic  #20 Ferrero, #3 Roddick, #10 Baghdatis, #7 Berdych)n)
2007 USO (#1 Federer  #3 Djokovic  #4 Davydenko, #15 Ferrer  #5 Roddick, #10 Haas, #17 Moya, #20 Chela)
2009 AO (#1 Nadal #2 Federer  #7 Roddick, #14 Verdasco  #3 Djokovic, #5 Tsonga, #6 Simon, #8 del Potro)
2009 RG (#2 Federer  #23 Soderling  #5 Del Potro, #12 Gonzalez  #3 Murray, #10 Davydenko, #11 Monfils, #16 Robredo)
2009 USO (#6 Del Potro  #1 Federer  #3 Nadal, #4 Djokovic  #10 Verdasco, #11 Gonzalez, #12 Soderling, #16 Cilic)
This is heavily biased towards 32 seed events, but the 'best' performance still comes in the 84 RG, which got 8 of the top 9 through. Also, the 70 AO and 68 USO weren't 128entry events, so somewhat less impressive.
Least:
2  1 time (1 RG)
1997 RG (Kuerten  #16 Bruguera  DeWulf, Rafter  #3 Kafelnikov, Norman, Blanco, Arazi)
AO Least  3  1 times
1999 AO (#10 Kafelnikov  Enqvist  Haas, Lapentti  #7 Kucera, #15 Martin, Spadea, Rosset)
USO Least  3  1 time
1994 USO (Agassi  #4 Stich  #9 Martin, Novacek  #13 Muster, Yzaga, Bjorkman, Karbacher)
W Least  3  1 time
1997 W (#1 Sampras  Pioline  Woodbirdge, Graebner  #8 Becker, Kiefer, #14 Henman, Rusedski)
Surely an untouchable set of records now. The 1977 AO tied the AO record at three, but had just 8 seeds.
Round of 16
I will mention, but with a caveat, the AOs of the early 70s, which boast strong records for the top 16, but with draws of only 64.
Most:
15  3 times (2 AO, 1 RG)
2007 AO (#1 Federer  #10 Gonzalez  #6 Roddick, #12 Haas  #2 Nadal, #3 Djokovic, #7 Robredo, Fish  #5 Blake, #8 Nalbandian, #9 Ancic, #13 Berdych, #14 Djokovic, #15 Murray, #16 Ferrer, #18 Gasquet)
2009 AO (#1 Nadal  #2 Federer  #5 Tsonga, #7 Roddick  #6 Simon, #14 Verdasco, #3 Djokovic, #8 del Potro  #13 Gonzalez, #12 Monfils, #4 Murray, #9 Blake, #21 Robredo, Baghdatis, #19 Cilic, #20 Berdych)
2009 RG (#1 Nadal, #2 Federer, #3 Murray, #5 del Potro, #8 Verdasco, #12 Gonzalez, #16 Robredo, #6 Roddick, #23 Soderling, #10 Davydenko, #13 Cilic, #30 Hanescu, #9 Tsonga, #29 Kohlschreiber, #11 Monfils, Haas)
2009 USO (#6 Del Potro  #1 Federer  #3 Nadal, #4 Djokovic  #10 Verdasco, #11 Gonzalez, #12 Soderling, #16 Cilic  #2 Murray, #7 Tsonga, #8 Davydenko, #13 Monfils, #14 Robredo, #15 Stepanek, #24 Ferrero, Isner)
W Best  14  1 time
2005 W (#1 Federer  #2 Roddick  #3 Hewitt, #12 Johansson  #9 Grosjean, #18 Nalbandian, #21 Gonzalez, #26 Lopez  #10 Ancic, #15 Coria, #23 Ferrero, #24 Dent, #27 Gasquet, #31 Youzhny, Mirnyi,Tursunov)
Least:
4  1 time (1 AO)
1998 AO (#6 Korda  #9 Rios  Kucera, Escude  #1 Sampras, #4 Bjorkman, Kiefer, Berasategui  Arazi, Fromberg, Black, Pioline, Woodbridge, Raoux, Roux, Agassi)
RG Least  5  1 time
1994 RG (#6 Bruguera  Berasategui  #7 Courier, Larsson  #1 Sampras, #4 Medvedev, #5 Ivanisevic, Dreekmann  Tillstrom, Delaitre, Eltingh, Rafter, Gaudenzi, Frana, Yzaga, Krickstein)
USO Least  5  2 times
1971 USO (#2 Smith  Kodes  #3 Ashe, #4 Okker  #5 Riessen, #7 Graebner, Froehling, Osborne  Lutz, Carmichael, Alexander, Orantes, Moore, Taylor, Pilic, Holecek)
1988 USO (#2 Wilander  #1 Lendl  #4 Agassi, Cahill  #3 Edberg, #6 Connors, Rostagno, Krickstein, Sanchez  Hlasek, Agenor, Chang, Lozano, Laurendeau, Frawley, Woodforde)
W Least  6  6 times
1979 W (#1 Borg  #5 Tanner  #3 Connors, Dupre  #15 Gullikson, Okker, Scanlon, Panatta  #2 McEnroe, #14 Clerc, Teacher, Mayer, Cox, Drewett, Mayer, Lutz)
1981 W (#2 McEnroe  #1 Borg  #3 Connors, Frawley  #12 McNamara, Amritraj, Mayotte, Kriek  #14 Fibak, #16 Gerulaitis, Borowiak, Kronk, Fitzgerald, Mayer, Gonzalez, Smith)
1990 W (#3 Edberg  #2 Becker  #1 Lendl, Ivanisevic  #7 Gilbert, Pearce, Bergstrom, Curren  #11 Forget, #13 Chang, Antonitsch, Woodforde, Volkov, Koevermans, Wheaton, Cash)
1996 W (#17 Krajicek  Washington  #13 Martin, Stoltenberg  #1 Sampras, #4 Ivanisevic, Henman, Radulescu  #10 Stich, #16 Pioline, Rafter, Hlasek, Gustafsson, Johansson, Haarhuis, Godwin)
1998 W (#1 Sampras  #14 Ivanisevic  #9 Krajicek, #12 Henman  #3 Korda, Philippoussis, Siemerink, Sanguinetti  #6 Rafter, Grosjean, Stoltenberg, van Lottum, Larsson, Martin, Ferreira, Clavet)
2000 W (#1 Sampras  #12 Rafter  #2 Agassi, Voltchkov  #10 Philippoussis, Gambill, Black, Popp  #8 Henman, #9 Enqvist, Bjorkman, Pozzi, Ferreira, Johansson, Rosset, Prinosil)
The Wimbledon record is technically 5, but this came in the 8 seed 1971 tournament, which doesn't have much comparison value.
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06272009, 07:50 PM

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Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams
After two tournaments that saw 12 of the top 16 seeds through to the fourth round, this year's Wimbledon is quite a bit lower, only 7 top 16 seeds moved through. This is one more than last year's Wimby, and below average for all GSs.
The presence of 3 unseeded players (Hewitt, Ferrero and Sela) leaves this year's event one short of the Wimbledon record for seeds in the round of 16.



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Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams
In the end, Wimbledon was pretty dull from a seeding perspective, making no inroads on the leaderboards. However, I did find an embarrassing oversight in my database; the 2001 AO was totally ignored. This event had none of the top 4 seeds make the semifinals, expanding that list to 14 tournaments.



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Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams
really unlucky if you play a seeded player in the first few rounds of a grad slam or it might be your time to shine



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Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams
Nice thread. A lot of people are expecting the upcoming USO to have something like this after what happened in Montreal. Certainly the top 4 plus Roddick and JMDP are heavily favoured to reach the last 8.
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Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams
Why is there no mention of how frequently the no1 seed won the tournament? (And in wich tournaments)



08252009, 12:54 AM

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Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams
Quote:
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Why is there no mention of how frequently the no1 seed won the tournament? (And in wich tournaments)

No real reason, I just hadn't thought of listing that.
In the 163 tournaments I've covered, 55 were won by the #1 seed.
13 AO (69, 77, 78, 79, 82, 90, 93, 94, 97, 00, 06, 07, 09)
11 RG (69, 71, 75, 78, 79, 80, 81, 86, 87, 92, 01)
13 USO (69, 74, 76, 77, 81, 84, 86, 87, 96, 04, 05, 06, 07)
18 W (68, 69, 72, 78, 79, 80, 84, 93, 94, 97, 98, 99, 00, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07)
Players who did it:
10  Federer
9  Sampras
8  Borg
5  Lendl, Laver
3  Vilas, McEnroe
2  Courier, Connors
1  Kodes, Kuerten, Agassi, Kriek, Hewitt, Nadal, Smith, Gerulaitis
Some other little factoids I found while getting this data;
The most successful #2s ever are Connors, Nadal and Federer, each with 4 GSs as #2, McEnroe, Lendl, Rosewall, Sampras and Agassi all have 3.
Mats Wilander is the most successful #3 ever, winning 3 GSs as that seed.
 Only one player has one multiple Grand Slams at a seed lower than 3, Becker won twice as a #4.



09152009, 11:00 PM

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Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams
This year's USO tied the alltime record with 14 of the top 16 seeds making the R16, and broke the previous USO record of 13. Having 15 seeded players also tied that overall record, again breaking the previous USO record of 13.
This was also the 14th time that a tournament had all seeded quarterfinalists. 2009 is the first time that three of the four GS tournaments had all seeds in the quarters.



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Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams
This year's RG was the 12th time in the open era that the top 4 seeds all made the semifinals, and the first since 2006 RG.
Nothing else remarkable beyond that, with 5 of the top 8 in the quarters and 10 of the top 16 in round 4.



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Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams
Very interesting! Is there any hope of a 2012 update?





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