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Old 12-10-2012, 06:42 PM   #1666
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How does he have higher chances in Madrid than in IW and Montreal(!!) ?
they didnt inform him that blue clay is removed next year I guess
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:43 PM   #1667
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they didnt inform him that blue clay is removed next year I guess
Well, the altitude clearly makes this his best clay tournament regardless. He beat Nadal on red clay in 2009, after all.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:51 PM   #1668
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Well, the altitude clearly makes this his best clay tournament regardless. He beat Nadal on red clay in 2009, after all.
dude Nadal was losing that match to any decent player a day later after 4+ hours against Djokovic in the SF
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:56 PM   #1669
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dude Nadal was losing that match to any decent player a day later after 4+ hours against Djokovic in the SF
Federer was close to Nadal in Madrid 2011. A day later, Djokovic beat easily Nadal 7-5 6-4 and he repeated that in Rome...
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Federer was close to Nadal in Madrid 2011. A day later, Djokovic beat easily Nadal 7-5 6-4 and he repeated that in Rome...

and?your point is?
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:01 AM   #1671
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How does he have higher chances in Madrid than in IW and Montreal(!!) ?
Results last couple years:
Madrid: 2009 - Win; 2010 - Final; 2011 - Semis; 2012 - Win.
IW: 2009 - Semis; 2010 - R32; 2011 - Semis; 2012 - Win.
Toronto/Montreal: 2009 - Quarters; 2010 - Finals; 2011 - R16; 2012 - Didn't play.

Clearly Madrid is the tournament Roger has had mosre consistent results the last couple years (even if you don't consider 2009).
The probability of Roger reaching the semis is way higher in Madrid than in IW or Montreal. Of course the probability of reaching the finals will depend if he draws nadal in the semis or not.
Also he has lost in madrid in 2010 and 2011 to nadal, both matches were rather close. He has lost to big-hitters in IW and Toronto/Montreal.
Did you see the US Open and madrid. Roger is less prone to losing against these type of players on clay. Of course he'll still probably have to beat nadal to win the title but if there is a a clay tournament Roger can do it in is Madrid.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:11 AM   #1672
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they didnt inform him that blue clay is removed next year I guess
Nah, I know that the ATP, as usual, catered to the whining complaints of the 2 divas djokovic and nadal. It was to be expected.
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Nah, I know that the ATP, as usual, catered to the whining complaints of the 2 divas djokovic and nadal. It was to be expected.
blue clay was a disgrace of a surface when 2 of the best movers of all time cant move on it it says it all
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blue clay was a disgrace of a surface when 2 of the best movers of all time cant move on it it says it all
They move well on stereotyped and homogenized surfaces... Change something and they're doomed... unable to adapt
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:32 PM   #1675
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They move well on stereotyped and homogenized surfaces... Change something and they're doomed... unable to adapt
They are spartaaaa warriors... if the courts are changed, they adapt, they win and they don't whine..


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Old 12-11-2012, 12:39 PM   #1676
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blue clay was a disgrace of a surface when 2 of the best movers of all time cant move on it it says it all
maybe because in the very fast surfaces they can`t use his physicall condition and returning all the balls waaiting that the rival lose the point.

for them , all the fast courts are a disgrace , they needs slower courts to run like horses or moonballing.
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that was not the real surface Fedtard
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:18 PM   #1678
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blue clay was a disgrace of a surface when 2 of the best movers of all time cant move on it it says it all
They're grinders who love to slide on everything. They rely too much on pushing their knees against the surface. Their knees will pay sooner or later (Pocahontas' ones are already sending worrying signs)
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dude Nadal was losing that match to any decent player a day later after 4+ hours against Djokovic in the SF
A loss is a loss. Fact is Hamburg and Madrid have always been Rafas least successful clay event out of the 5 he plays.
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A loss is a loss. Fact is Hamburg and Madrid have always been Rafas least successful clay event out of the 5 he plays.
You are right that loss is a loss but behind every loss there is a reason and here Fed played good and Nadal was tired and hurting.....That's how you lose
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