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12-05-2012, 11:47 AM
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Re: Gimpy vLove Shack vol. 3: Cool young Brits hub + their bros.
Trip just saw and replied on the thread
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12-05-2012, 02:54 PM
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Re: Gimpy vLove Shack vol. 3: Cool young Brits hub + their bros.
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Can't believe it. You voted against me and don't even have the decency to fulfill my reasonable request. 
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On a slightly related note. Would you feel guilty if you knew all the secrets of all your friends, without them realising? Or would you enjoy the sensation?
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12-05-2012, 04:46 PM
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Re: Gimpy vLove Shack vol. 3: Cool young Brits hub + their bros.
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On a slightly related note. Would you feel guilty if you knew all the secrets of all your friends, without them realising? Or would you enjoy the sensation?
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Way to go to change the subject.
I would feel guilty without a doubt. A part of me would enjoy it but the dominant feeling would be guilt.
We discussed some moral theory in class today, the standard trolley case. Scenario A: there's a trolley heading for 5 people and it will kill those 5 people UNLESS you divert the trolly onto another track. However, there is 1 person standing on that other track and diverting its course would kill that 1 person. Do you divert the trolley to kill 1 and save 5?
Scenario B: There's a trolley heading for 5 people and it would kill those 5 people UNLESS you throw a fat man (yes, fat man  ) onto the tracks to stop the trolley, thereby killing the fat man in the process. Do you kill the fat man to save the 5 people?
Most people say it's permissible to divert the trolley in the first scenario but not the second. I agree with most people on the second, but I wouldn't even divert the trolley in the first. I would feel too guilty. I would probably just do nothing.
Anyway, that's a long way of saying that I have an annoyingly strong guilty conscience, which is why I would feel mostly guilty if I knew my friends' secrets without their knowing. I'd probably tell them that I know at some point.  What about you?
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12-05-2012, 04:51 PM
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Re: Gimpy vLove Shack vol. 3: Cool young Brits hub + their bros.
sup?  
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12-05-2012, 04:51 PM
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Re: Gimpy vLove Shack vol. 3: Cool young Brits hub + their bros.
Sup Sam 
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12-05-2012, 04:53 PM
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Re: Gimpy vLove Shack vol. 3: Cool young Brits hub + their bros.
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Sup Sam 
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12-05-2012, 05:12 PM
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Way to go to change the subject. 
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It was worth a try, wasn't it.
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I would feel guilty without a doubt. A part of me would enjoy it but the dominant feeling would be guilt.
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So, the that leads on to my next question. Would you feel guilty knowing all the weird and wonderful secrets that I have, even if I knew you had access to the knowledge?
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We discussed some moral theory in class today, the standard trolley case. Scenario A: there's a trolley heading for 5 people and it will kill those 5 people UNLESS you divert the trolly onto another track. However, there is 1 person standing on that other track and diverting its course would kill that 1 person. Do you divert the trolley to kill 1 and save 5?
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I would do nothing. I don't want to be responsible for someone dying. Even if it saves four lives, the one life that was taken was resulting from direction actions that I myself would have taken.
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Scenario B: There's a trolley heading for 5 people and it would kill those 5 people UNLESS you throw a fat man (yes, fat man ) onto the tracks to stop the trolley, thereby killing the fat man in the process. Do you kill the fat man to save the 5 people?
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In this one, I wouldn't dare do anything. The way that the scenario has been worded and constructed seems to single out fat people as the the best type of people to sacrifice. It gives people the chance to exercise their prejudice.
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Most people say it's permissible to divert the trolley in the first scenario but not the second. I agree with most people on the second, but I wouldn't even divert the trolley in the first. I would feel too guilty. I would probably just do nothing.
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Totally agree.
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Anyway, that's a long way of saying that I have an annoyingly strong guilty conscience, which is why I would feel mostly guilty if I knew my friends' secrets without their knowing. I'd probably tell them that I know at some point. What about you?
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I feel really guilty sometimes. Like when I didn't vote for you in PopCon.
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12-05-2012, 06:18 PM
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Re: Gimpy vLove Shack vol. 3: Cool young Brits hub + their bros.
Have thumb in plaster 
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12-05-2012, 07:10 PM
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Re: Gimpy vLove Shack vol. 3: Cool young Brits hub + their bros.
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Have thumb in plaster 
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uh oh, what happened to your thumb?
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12-05-2012, 07:11 PM
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Re: Gimpy vLove Shack vol. 3: Cool young Brits hub + their bros.
I have d*ck of classmate and he decide it is good idea to twist it...
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12-05-2012, 07:23 PM
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Re: Gimpy vLove Shack vol. 3: Cool young Brits hub + their bros.
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Have thumb in plaster 
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You seem happy about it 
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12-05-2012, 07:24 PM
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Re: Gimpy vLove Shack vol. 3: Cool young Brits hub + their bros.
Cant be arsed to be angry 
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12-05-2012, 07:40 PM
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Re: Gimpy vLove Shack vol. 3: Cool young Brits hub + their bros.
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Cant be arsed to be angry 
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That's the spirit! 
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12-05-2012, 07:41 PM
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Re: Gimpy vLove Shack vol. 3: Cool young Brits hub + their bros.
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That's the spirit! 
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Will you beat him up?  DD
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12-05-2012, 07:55 PM
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Re: Gimpy vLove Shack vol. 3: Cool young Brits hub + their bros.
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Will you beat him up?  DD
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I thought you were strong enough 
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