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Old 12-05-2012, 03:19 AM   #31
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he said the same thing about Henman
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:45 AM   #32
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I don't agree with him but okay fair enough, maybe he does have a point about federer. But implying that djokovic doesn't let his emotions out? is he fucking serious?



Mcenroe should just stfu, few pundits annoys me as much as he does. Some of the stuff that comes out of his mouth is pure shitfest
McEnroe doesn't understand there are ways to convey your emotions other than yelling at the umpires (all the time) and making all sorts of angry faces (Serena, the McEnroe of WTA).
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Uhh let me think here.
Federer: I guess I could see the emotionless side...
Nole: Primal Roars, Ripping T-Shirts, Yelling.. Robot my ass
Rafa: Emotional Spaniard on and off the court
Murray:CMON, F*** ME!,
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Default Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

One of the most visceral players of all time wants two guys to show more emotion and this is news?
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:00 AM   #35
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Default Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

I have to agree with Fed not showing emotion like he use to back in 2004 and before. To be honest i miss those days where Fed was showing some emotion, like that match between him and Hewitt for example, that was a classic IMO.

Nole has shown some emotion but like the other poster not like he use to back in 07-08.
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:22 AM   #36
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Fed is definitely more pissy now than in 04-07 for example.

More often you will hear "Oi!" or grunts of disgust at another shanked backhand, or a yell here or there. And when is "calm", you can even sense on his face that he is fuming underneath.

Djokovic, even in 2011-2012, I am still seeing anger, points of disgust, yelling after missed shots, destroying a bench at the RG final, etc.

Does McEnroe want them to do what he did where every call is a cinema trying to influence the linesperson to change his call? Does Mac want them to berate themselves like Murray? Borg's book, Bjorn says when he was playing, he was calm outer, but he was absolutely destroying things inside.
Doesn't he say "Nein" when he shanks backhands lately?

Anyway I think showing a poker face it's a great advantage in tennis. I've heard many Fed's opponent mentioning that not seeing him angry or upset when he's losing makes them nervous cause he seems to be always in control and ready to turn around the match.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:21 AM   #37
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McEnroe misses his own brief time when any media outlet gave a damn about him. He admits that Federer wasn't really number 1 this year, so he felt a desperate need to promote Fed to the intelligent audience that still doesn't quite buy Fed as a quiet, gentle-natured sweetheart (in reality, Fed's his fellow badmouthing asshole hero). It's BS written all over the place when he believes Djoker shows no emotion. Not every champion should be stereotyped like Mr. Peachy, Polished Federer just because imagination-deficient McEnroe's bitter about his regretful career, which was full of bad tantrums.
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:40 AM   #38
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The legend speaks nothing but the truth...They should all emulate and follow his on-court theatrics. Murray and Rodduck for sure understand this, look at where they are now. The titans of the sport.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:23 AM   #39
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Default Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

McEnroe speaks like Wilander as the TV professional entertainer he is now.

Much more interesting is what he says about Lendl imo : I would like to know more about those famous Lendl jokes

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Borg's book, Bjorn says when he was playing, he was calm outer, but he was absolutely destroying things inside.
Borg is known as the biggest star tennis had before Federer, and he showed absolutely nothing : maybe tells you something about people's tastes in tennis

I disagree with what Djokovicgonzalez says about the absolute need for players to show emotions (and it's a former big-Noah fan who speaks ) : I think the sport itself has enough tension if one's really a fan of the sport, now I know tennis well enough to feel the tension inside the game itself whatever emotions the player shows ... and most of the time I'm there thinking about the player I support in this or that match "focus there focus there" and "you can do it" if he's behind or "don't relax, it can turn" if he's ahead, things like that ... I constantly want him to fully focus rather than be driven by the failure or success on previous point. Of course I feel different when he's behind or ahead and I'm happy when he wins the point and especially big points but then it's "focus there focus there" again

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Anyway I think showing a poker face it's a great advantage in tennis. I've heard many Fed's opponent mentioning that not seeing him angry or upset when he's losing makes them nervous cause he seems to be always in control and ready to turn around the match.
I often read things about that and the famous "body language" from the Wilander guy especially, but as I read from another top-player, if it's only a body language and nothing inside, it's not really important : it has to be something real, more impressive for the opponent is that Fed doesn't start playing worse like somebody who doesn't believe anymore (as Murray does sometimes, and Djokovic more seldom but also in a lesser extent), and even changes things and accelerates : that's what Benneteau said of their match in Wimbledon for instance. Also playing very solid on big points. Nadal is also well-known for that : when he's lost previous set, you can be sure he will accelerate in the beginning of next set for instance and that's something which impresses the opponent a lot whatever face he has, the opponent is mostly impressed by how tough the match is and he has to wonder "can I really do it ?"
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:01 PM   #40
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I often read things about that and the famous "body language" from the Wilander guy especially, but as I read from another top-player, if it's only a body language and nothing inside, it's not really important : it has to be something real, more impressive for the opponent is that Fed doesn't start playing worse like somebody who doesn't believe anymore (as Murray does sometimes, and Djokovic more seldom but also in a lesser extent), and even changes things and accelerates : that's what Benneteau said of their match in Wimbledon for instance. Also playing very solid on big points. Nadal is also well-known for that : when he's lost previous set, you can be sure he will accelerate in the beginning of next set for instance and that's something which impresses the opponent a lot whatever face he has, the opponent is mostly impressed by how tough the match is and he has to wonder "can I really do it ?"
Yep, I also think it's a combination of body language and attitude on court that makes the diference.
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What's next Johnny Mac? Llodra should S&V more?
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Hulkerer disagrees.


Meanwhile, all the young American tennis players fit the mould, and all of them are doing jack shit right now. Hmm.
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STFU Mac. Just because you were a dick on court doesn't mean Fed and Djoker need to be too. They need to do whatever it is that makes them play their best tennis. Not phony emotions to play to the crowd or please the announcers in the box.
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Hulkerer disagrees.

Meanwhile, all the young American tennis players fit the mould, and all of them are doing jack shit right now. Hmm.
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