[buzz]

Jedi Fed, if you put Roddick in the semi final list you have to include Djokovic.

[JediFed]

No2e is already there.

Update after USO.

1. Jimmy Connors - 41
2. Roger Federer - 39
3. Andre Agassi - 36
4. Ivan Lendl - 34
5. Pete Sampras - 29
6. John McEnroe - 26
6. Stefan Edberg - 26
8. Boris Becker - 23
9. Rafael Nadal - 23
10. No2e - 22
11. Mats Wilander - 20
12. Bjorn Borg - 19

Semifinals

32-- Federer
31-- Connors
28-- Lendl
26-- Agassi
23-- Sampras
19-- McEnroe
19-- Edberg
19-- Nadal
18-- Becker
17-- Borg
17-- No2e
14-- Wilander
12-- Murray

10-- Roddick

[duong]

Are you sure of your 39 quarterfinals for Federer ? I count only 38 myself.

And I count 21 quarterfinals for Borg.

Besides, Rosewall had 13 grand slam semifinals in the open era, just ahead of Wilander then.

And if you really want to put Roddick in the semifinals list, ahead of him are also Vilas (12), Murray and Courier (11), and tied with him are Newcombe and Ashe.

[Litotes]

Originally Posted by duong

Are you sure of your 39 quarterfinals for Federer ? I count only 38 myself.

And I count 21 quarterfinals for Borg.

Besides, Rosewall had 13 grand slam semifinals in the open era, just ahead of Wilander then.

And if you really want to put Roddick in the semifinals list, ahead of him are also Vilas (12), Murray and Courier (11), and tied with him are Newcombe and Ashe.

I don't suppose you needed confirmation, but 38 QFs is right (W: 11, the others: 9).

And Borg naturally has 21 (W: 8, FO: 7, USO: 6).

Roddick is placed below with a gap, I take that to mean he knows there are others but include him anyway, as he has been active this year.

[duong]

Originally Posted by Litotes

Roddick is placed below with a gap, I take that to mean he knows there are others but include him anyway, as he has been active this year.

well yes but now Murray is both ahead and active

thanks for your confirmation, it's better to be reassured, I had a small doubt for a while as JediFed is a specialist in Fed's stats

[Litotes]

Originally Posted by duong

well yes but now Murray is both ahead and active

thanks for your confirmation, it's better to be reassured, I had a small doubt for a while as JediFed is a specialist in Fed's stats

Yes, and he is also on the list....just on 12 rather than 11. And once again, I believe your number is correct (W: 4, USO + AO: 3, FO: 1).

[JediFed]

Quarterfinals.

1. Jimmy Connors - 41
2. Roger Federer - 39
3. Andre Agassi - 36
4. Ivan Lendl - 34
5. Pete Sampras - 29
6. John McEnroe - 26
6. Stefan Edberg - 26
8. Boris Becker - 23
8. Rafael Nadal - 23
10. No2e - 22
11. Bjorn Borg - 21
12. Mats Wilander - 20
13. Andy Roddick 19
13. Guillermo Vilas 19

Semifinals

1. 32-- Federer
2. 31-- Connors
3. 28-- Lendl
4. 26-- Agassi
5. 23-- Sampras
6. 19-- McEnroe
6. 19-- Edberg
6. 19-- Nadal
9. 18-- Becker
10. 17-- Borg
10. 17-- No2e
12. 15-- Rosewall
13. 14-- Wilander
14. 12-- Vilas
15. 11-- Murray
15. 11-- Courier
17. 10-- Roddick
17. 10-- Newcombe
17. 10-- Ashe

[JediFed]

Not sure where the error crept in, probably just added 1 twice without rechecking with the total. Borg fixed, Rosewell added.

It was a way to show that Roddick deserves far more credit than he receives, FWIW.

[duong]

Originally Posted by JediFed

Not sure where the error crept in, probably just added 1 twice without rechecking with the total. Borg fixed, Rosewell added.

It was a way to show that Roddick deserves far more credit than he receives, FWIW.

Thank you, and as Roddick is not active anymore, you can also add Vilas with 12 semifinals, Courier with 11 ones, and Newcombe and Ashe with 10 ones in the open era

[duong]

As an information I have longer lists :

players who played at least 4 semifinals in the open era :

Federer 32 Connors 31 Lendl 28 Agassi 26 Sampras 23 Nadal-McEnroe-Edberg 19 Becker 18 Djokovic-Borg 17 Wilander 14 Rosewall 13 Vilas 12 Murray-Courier 11 Newcombe-Ashe-Roddick 10 Roche-Chang-Hewitt-Gerulaitis 8 Safin-Rafter-Ivanisevic 7 Laver-Nastase-Kodes-Stich-Kafelnikov-Ferrero-Martin-Tanner-Henman 6 Smith-Okker-Cash-Nalbandian-Kriek 5 Mecir-Leconte-Muster-Bruguera-Gimeno-Orantes-Solomon-Krajicek-Pioline-Grosjean-Tsonga-Davydenko-Ferrer-Haas 4

players who played at least 7 quarterfinals in the open era :

Connors 41 Federer 38 Agassi 36 Lendl 34 Sampras 29 McEnroe-Edberg 26 Nadal-Becker 23 Djokovic 22 Borg 21 Wilander 20 Vilas-Roddick 19 Newcombe 18 Rosewall-Ashe-Courier-Hewitt 15 Murray-Ivanisevic 14 Chang-Kafelnikov 13 Nastase-Roche 12 Gerulaitis-Tanner-Kriek-Okker 11 Smith-Kodes-Noah-Stich-Martin-Henman-Nalbandian-Davydenko 10 Safin-Ferrero-Ferrer-Grosjean-Krajicek-Muster-Cash-Leconte-Mayotte-Ramirez 9 Orantes-Kuerten-Moya-Tsonga-Pioline-Metreveli 8 Laver-Del Potro-Rafter-Mecir-Haas-Gonzalez-Björkman-Dibbs 7

if you see somebody missing from my lists, please tell me

(Rios and Corretja played 6 quarterfinals : if you have an extensive list of players having played 6 quarterfinals in the open era I would be grateful )

and while I'm in that here should be the list of players having played at least 3 finals

Federer 24 Lendl 19 Sampras 18 Nadal-Borg 16 Connors-Agassi 15 McEnroe-Edberg-Wilander 11 Becker 10 Djokovic 9 Rosewall-Vilas 8 Courier-Newcombe 7 Laver 6 Murray-Ashe-Nastase-Kodes-Roddick 5 Hewitt-Safin-Rafter-Chang-Ivanisevic 4 Roche-Smith-Gerulaitis-Cash-Stich-Kafelnikov-Kuerten-Bruguera-Ferrero 3

[JediFed]

Wilander had 16 semifinals, and 17 Quarterfinals before finally reaching Number 1. Murray has 12 and 14 respectively.

[Litotes]

Originally Posted by JediFed

Wilander had 16 semifinals, and 17 Quarterfinals before finally reaching Number 1. Murray has 12 and 14 respectively.

16 SFs and 17 QFs? I typo, I assume. I have him at 13 SFs and 17 QFS. He lost QFs in USO 1983-4 and W 1987-8

[Springer89]

Originally Posted by duong

if you see somebody missing from my lists, please tell me

I have Tanner at 6 SFs (1 AO, 3 W, 2 USO) and 11 QFs (1 AO, 5 W, 5 USO), also Rosewell at 15 QFs (5 AO, 2 RG, 3 W, 5 USO), Metreveli at 8 QFs (3 AO, 1 RG, 3 W, 1 USO) , Dibbs (4 W, 3 USO) and Bjorkman (2 AO, 2 W, 3 USO) at 7 QFs.

Didn't checked all my numbers, though, just Tanner's and Bjorkman's stat and it seemed OK.

[Springer89]

Oh, and JediFed... Could you, please, change No2e to No1e?

[duong]

Originally Posted by Springer89

I have Tanner at 6 SFs (1 AO, 3 W, 2 USO) and 11 QFs (1 AO, 5 W, 5 USO), also Rosewell at 15 QFs (5 AO, 2 RG, 3 W, 5 USO), Metreveli at 8 QFs (3 AO, 1 RG, 3 W, 1 USO) , Dibbs (4 W, 3 USO) and Bjorkman (2 AO, 2 W, 3 USO) at 7 QFs.

Didn't checked all my numbers, though, just Tanner's and Bjorkman's stat and it seemed OK.

you're right for all of them, thanks a lot

I wonder why I've read so much RosewEll and not Rosewall in this thread

By the way as I know you're an expert in young players, Springer, would you know if there's a connection between the Georgian youngster Aleksandre Metreveli and the old glory Alex Metreveli ? grand-son or something ?