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Old 11-08-2012, 02:56 AM   #31
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you wont hear about Janowicz for like a year
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Happened in 2009 - no new era on the horizon
Del Potro was not far from the age of the Nadal/murray/Djokovic GS winners though, so nothing too exciting their. close enough generations
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you wont hear about Janowicz for like a year
Good. I fucking hate all young players
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Agassi is nowhere close to Janowicz in terms of variety. Janowicz doesn't even need to run too much. Agassi benefitted from better fitness and some weak hard court opponents.
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:39 PM   #35
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I'll never understand this weird belief that Murray and Djokovic are definitely going to dominate for the next five years or whatever. Just because Federer is 31 and still winning slams, doesn't automatically mean they will be too. Particularly given the nature of their games. Weird.

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why not?Agassi was at 35 a factor and their games are similar plus his body is taken care of
Just because they're both good returners with good backhands, doesn't make their games similar. Agassi was far more offensive and ended points quicker. Djokovic's game takes a far more physical toll on the body. Though Agassi's body was a wreck when he retired.
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I'll never understand this weird belief that Murray and Djokovic are definitely going to dominate for the next five years or whatever. Just because Federer is 31 and still winning slams, doesn't automatically mean they will be too. Particularly given the nature of their games. Weird.
What about Ferrer? How old is he and what's his style and ranking?
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Agassi is nowhere close to Janowicz in terms of variety. Janowicz doesn't even need to run too much. Agassi benefitted from better fitness and some weak hard court opponents.
He can't really be implying that Janowicz is a better player than Agassi was, can he?
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why not?Agassi was at 35 a factor and their games are similar plus his body is taken care of
We need to remember that Agassi didn't play all that years consecutively. He stopped to play for long periods during his career.
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Agassi is nowhere close to Janowicz in terms of variety. Janowicz doesn't even need to run too much. Agassi benefitted from better fitness and some weak hard court opponents.
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I didn't see Janowicz play But one final is hardly a successful career at the top of the game. More to come maybe/probably?

And yes Agassi was fitter than most of his physically weak HC opponents(compared to todays fitness).
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Donald "Young Blood" Young to take out 3 slams next year, but just falling short in the RG final to Nadal in 5.
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why not?Agassi was at 35 a factor and their games are similar plus his body is taken care of
Agassi spent many of his 20-something years chasing women instead of chasing the tennis ball. He had less mileage at 31 than Djokovic will have at the same age. I doubt the likes of Djokovic, Murray and Del Potro will be winning slams at 31/32.


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What about Ferrer? How old is he and what's his style and ranking?
Ferrer has less mileage at 30 than Djokovic and Murray will have at that age.

At 30, Ferrer has only played around 729 matches or so.

At 25, Murray has played almost 500 matches already while Djokovic has played around 588 matches. Djokovic is getting close to 600 matches at 25.


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Of course he'll be a factor, if he still wants to play then that is. Ferrer is 31 in few months and a solid top 5, even has slim chance to take #4 if Nadal isn't ready for AO.

Nole is certainly better player than Ferrer, and at 31 he'll most likely face much weaker opposition than Ferrer is facing now. He could be like Serena then
Serena has played around 657 matches at 31. She has few mileage for a 31 year old.

Djokovic does not have Serena's serve.

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What is important for Murray and Djokovic is that they learn how to adapt their game once mileage start kicking in: shortening the points, more ventures to the net, a bit more offensive mindset, beefing up the serve, you name it. It´ll be interesting to see how and if they go about it. Murray has the tools for such a way of playing, but not the mindset. Djokovic has/had the mindset (N´Djok 2007 f.i.)and the awareness this needs to happen, but has gotten to enamoured of grinding. Still, if they do this and look into Agassi´s/Ferrer´s training regimen, they´ll be sticking around among the best for another 5-6 years still. Though God knows we could use some up and coming players.
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I'll never understand this weird belief that Murray and Djokovic are definitely going to dominate for the next five years or whatever. Just because Federer is 31 and still winning slams, doesn't automatically mean they will be too. Particularly given the nature of their games. Weird.


Just because they're both good returners with good backhands, doesn't make their games similar. Agassi was far more offensive and ended points quicker. Djokovic's game takes a far more physical toll on the body. Though Agassi's body was a wreck when he retired.
Agassi was more offensive because he played in a different era with different opponents and different surfaces, Djokovic started the same when he was young but had to adjust his game progressively to the modern game. However, Ferrer plays a very physical game, he's over 30 and he's number 5, just won his MS at his age. So you get your answer. You don't need to compare with Federer, there are many players in the Top 20 that will show you age doesn't matter as much, who actually dominate the game much more than any youngster.
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We need to remember that Agassi didn't play all that years consecutively. He stopped to play for long periods during his career.
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Ferrer has less mileage at 30 than Djokovic and Murray will have at that age.

At 30, Ferrer has only played around 729 matches or so.
Are we talking about cars or human beings here? Maybe I should start a pro career next year, since I have 0 mileage, I could last well into my 50s
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