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Old 11-08-2012, 12:46 AM   #31
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Clay: Nadal

Grass: Federer

Hard: Djokovic

Sand: Robredo

Wood: Karlovic

Ice: Raonic

Moon: Devvarman

Scotland: Murray
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:10 AM   #32
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Clay:

1. Nadal
2. Djokovic
3. Federer (questionable)
4. Ferrer
5. Del Potro

Grass:

1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Murray
4. Djokovic
5. Tsonga

Fast(er) Hard

1. Federer
2. Djokovic
3. Murray
4. Nadal
5. Ferrer

Slow(er) Hard

1. Djokovic
2. Nadal
3. Federer
4. Murray
5. Ferrer

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1. John Isner
2. Miloserve Botnic
3. Andy Rod dick
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:30 AM   #33
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Lol like I have the time to fill up 40 names. So I'll be brief.

Grass: GOAT
Clay: Dull
Fast hard: GOAT
Slow hard: GOAT/Djoker

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Clay:

1. Nadal
2. Djokovic
3. Federer (questionable)
4. Ferrer
5. Del Potro

Grass:

1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Murray
4. Djokovic
5. Tsonga

Fast(er) Hard

1. Federer
2. Djokovic
3. Murray
4. Nadal
5. Ferrer

Slow(er) Hard

1. Djokovic
2. Nadal
3. Federer
4. Murray
5. Ferrer

Most well-rounded player:

1. John Isner
2. Miloserve Botnic
3. Andy Rod dick
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:54 AM   #35
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A lot of the lists seem to be career wise and that's what the OP prefers, so I am surprised to see no mention of Hewitt or Davydenko thus far.
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Clay:

1. Nadal
2. Djokovic
3. Federer
4. Ferrer
5. Del Potro
6. Berdych
7. Murray
8. Almagro
9. Monaco
10. Isner

Grass:

1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Murray
4. Djokovic
5. Tsonga
6. Haas
7. Del Potro
8. Berdych
9. Ferrer
10. Gasquet

Fast(er) Hard

1. Federer
2. Djokovic
3. Murray
4. Nadal
5. Del Potro
6. Berdych
7. Tsonga
8. Raonic
9. Ferrer
10. Tipsarevic

Slow(er) Hard

1. Djokovic
2. Murray
3. Federer
4. Nadal
5. Del Potro
6. Ferrer
7. Berdych
8. Tsonga
9. Tipsarevic
10. Isner
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:41 AM   #37
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Assuming you mean active players and not retired. Also assuming you mean their career rank on the surface not their current level:
Clay:

1. Rafael Nadal
2. Roger Federer
3. Novak Djokovic
4. Robin Soderling (active? I'll assume so)
5. Juan Martin Del Potro
6. David Ferrer
7. Nikolay Davydenko
8. Tomas Berdych
9. David Nalbandian
10. Andy Murray

Grass:

1. Roger Federer
2. Rafael Nadal
3. Lleyton Hewitt
4. Andy Murray
5. Novak Djokovic
6. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga
7. Tomas Berdych
8. David Nalbandian
9. Tommy Haas
10.

Fast(er) Hard

1. Roger Federer
2. Novak Djokovic
3. David Nalbandian
4. Rafael Nadal
5. Juan Martin Del Potro
6. Andy Murray
7. Lleyton Hewitt
8. Nikolay Davydenko
9. Tomas Berdych
10.

Slow(er) Hard

1. Novak Djokovic
2. Rafael Nadal
3. Roger Federer
4. Andy Murray
5. Nikolay Davydenko
6. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga
7. Lleyton Hewitt
8. David Nalbandian
9. Juan Martin Del Potro
10.
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:56 AM   #38
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Is this ranking for their current state, or for their peak?

If it is for current state, anyone who put Nadal within top 3 in anything but clay is clearly delusional.
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A lot of the lists seem to be career wise and that's what the OP prefers, so I am surprised to see no mention of Hewitt or Davydenko thus far.
That's what I am wondering.

Is it career-wise (ie. their peak), or their current condition?
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Grass:

1. Roger Federer
2. Andy Murray
3. Rafael Nadal
4. Novak Djokovic
5. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga

In making the finals of both the Olympics and Wimbledon this year, I believe Federer and Murray firmly established themselves as the best grass court players this year. Like others, I'm uncertain as to where Nadal measures up due to his early exit and injuries, and the fact that the potency of his game fluctuates with the state of the surface.

Clay:

1. Rafael Nadal
2. Novak Djokovic
3. Roger Federer
4. Juan-Martin Del Potro
5. David Ferrer

I would put Del Potro ahead of Ferrer because of the former's ability to penetrate the court. Conversely, most players' shots are more likely to sit up for him to recover and take cracks at. He's part of that big hitting on clay campaign ushered in with Robin Soderling. I'd probably put Berdych at 5 if he weren't so wildly inconsistent.

Hard Courts:

1. Novak Djokovic
2. Rafael Nadal
3. Roger Federer
4. Andy Murray
5. David Ferrer

Hard to separate the hard courts into slow or fast because there are even sub-divisions within those categories. For instance, Dubai and the USO are both "fast", and yet still dissimilar. Worse is the distinction between IW and AO, the former being dreadfully slow compared to the moderate/tolerable speed of AO.
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That's what I am wondering.

Is it career-wise (ie. their peak), or their current condition?
Hm.. I took a different approach where I tried to base it on their performances over the past couple of years. For most players I probably emphasized this one, but for Nadal I tried to rewind the clock a bit to compensate for his injuries.

Even still, it's not a stretch to place him in the top three for slower hard courts if one were to judge him on this year's AO.
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Clay:

1. Healthy Nadal
2. Nadal with blisters
3. Nadal with a cough
4. Nadal with a burned finger
5. Nadal with a broken foot
6. Nadal with tendinitis
7. Nadal with divorced parents
8. Nadal in a wheelchair
9. Djokovic 2.0
10. JESUSfed

Grass:

1. Nadal
2. Federer
3. Murray
4. Djokovic
5. Tsonga
6. Berdych
7. Gasquet
8. Ferrer


Hard:

1. Djokovic
2. Murray
3. Federer
4. Nadal (although he'd still beat Federer and Murray obviously)
5. Ferrer
6. Berdych
7. Del Potro
8. Tsonga
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:57 AM   #43
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Grass: Goat (aka Fedgod)
Hard: JesusFed
Clay: Nada....Just kidding Fed takes this

Keep the good reps coming Noserertards
Use his proper name, clown. The 'Noserer' bullshit is getting tedious.
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Lol like I have the time to fill up 40 names. So I'll be brief.

Grass: GOAT
Clay: Dull
Fast hard: GOAT
Slow hard: GOAT/Djoker

Next.
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Assuming you mean active players and not retired. Also assuming you mean their career rank on the surface not their current level:

...

Slow(er) Hard

1. Novak Djokovic
2. Rafael Nadal
3. Roger Federer
4. Andy Murray
5. Nikolay Davydenko
6. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga
7. Lleyton Hewitt
8. David Nalbandian
9. Juan Martin Del Potro
10.
Which tournaments do you include as "Slower hard"? I am a little curious, since Beijing is the only HC tournament, any speed, where Nadal has won more than Federer. I'd think three more AOs, two more IWs and two more Miamis would more than cancel out that....but perhaps none of these are slow(er)?
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