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Old 10-29-2012, 02:29 PM   #691
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The same list for Spain in case anyone is interested : with a similar number of top-100 players in these generations (50 for Spain ; 46 for France), Spaniards are more concentrated by generations hence the "generation holes" :

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1965 E Sanchez (7) - De Miguel (81)
1966 ---
1967 ---
1968 C Costa (10) - Clavet (18) - J Sanchez (23) - Carbonell (40) - Roig (60) - Altur (88)
1969 ---
1970 Lopez Moron (100)
1971 Bruguera (3) - German Lopez (71)
1972 Burillo (43) - Benfele-Alvarez (81) - Puentes (90)
1973 Berasategui (7) - Portas (19) - Calatrava (44) - Viloca (47)
1974 Corretja (2) - Mantilla (10) - Oscar Martinez (68)
1975 A Costa (6) - Balcells (57) - Carretero (58)
1976 Moya (1) - Blanco (40) - Diaz (68)
1977 Vicente (29) - Alonso (30)
1978 Alberto Martin (34) - D Sanchez (41) - Hernandez (48) - Ramirez-Hidalgo (50)
1979 ---
1980 Ferrero (1) - Montanes (22) - Ventura (65)
1981 F Lopez (15) - Navarro-Pastor (67)
1982 Ferrer (4) - Robredo (5)
1983 Verdasco (7) - Garcia-Lopez (23)
1984 ---
1985 Almagro (9) - Gimeno-Traver (52)
1986 Nadal (1) - Granollers (19) - Andujar (33)
1987 ---
1988 Ramos (38) - Riba (65) - Bautista-Agut (74)
1989 (Cervantes ?)
1990 (?? Vivanco-Guzman ?)
1991 (Carreno-Busta ?)
1992 (Marti ?)
1993 (Carballes-Baena ? Boluda ? Artunedo-Martinavarr ? Roca-Batalla ? Alvarez-Llamas ?)
1994 (Perez-Sanz ?)
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:10 PM   #692
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Thanks duong for the great statistics. France is definitely a consistent power in tennis, while Spain is a spearhead, even though not all their generations have been great, the ones that were produced several Top 4 players.

In light of the question previously asked, I noticed there is no info in the OP about this, so I added this in the original post to complete the picture about the backgrounds used:

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Gray - The player has withdrawn from the tournament, but will incur a 0-point penalty. This will be noted as a -1 in case of ATP 500 events, and 0 in case of ATP 1000. This is due to the fact that ATP 1000 events are recognized as Mandatory by the system, while ATP 500 events are not, and there needs to be a difference between regular 0 (first round loss) and mandatory 0 (penalty).
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Slasher, you have to update your signature photo. Change Ferrero to white
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Hmmm... I will answer this here.
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Ummm... I keep looking through Delpo's chances at becoming #5 by the end of the year. It's not really practically possible, but there are sufficient chances. A higher probability stands for him being YE #6 though.
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Ummm... I keep looking through Delpo's chances at becoming #5 by the end of the year. It's not really practically possible, but there are sufficient chances. A higher probability stands for him being YE #6 though.
Must get to final in Paris to have a chance, not likely.

And not so important, IMO, Nadal will play AO and #5 in Ranking anyway will be 5th seed I guess in group. Delpo was already even #4, so...

Or do you see some another intrigue in this, or just intresting?
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Or do you see some another intrigue in this, or just intresting?
Well, I notice interesting stuff that is about to happen and babble away about them. It doesn't have to be Earth-shattering. Those kind of things are noticed by haters much faster than you can blink.
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Well, I notice interesting stuff that is about to happen and babble away about them. It doesn't have to be Earth-shattering. Those kind of things are noticed by haters much faster than you can blink.
Ok, no question.
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The week in which the Live Rankings and Live Race Rankings coincide (at least topwise) has begun. OP has been updated.
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Del Potro has played and won last 2 weeks and he's always been injury-prone and quickly tired.

I'm very surprised he's still in Paris draw actually.
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Chardy's win over Garcia-Lopez allows him to take Bellucci's place as a commitment player for next year.

Once again, Bellucci fails at the gate of that top-30 rank, like previous 3 years.

Chardy might become committed (with the "bonus pool" money coming together) for the first time as far as he's concerned, but some others (Granollers, Stepanek, Anderson, Benneteau) can still take that from him.
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Hey duong... You mentioned earlier that commitment is chosen after WTF. I thought it was strictly end-of-year. Like some player can take a Wild card in a Challenger event and become committed for next year by the end of November or play CTF (Klizan for instance). So which is it, I want to employ this rule now.
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I think there are a possible race for the year-end number 2 between Federer and Murray. Roger is 1955 points ahead, but will fight just for 1500 points until the end of the year. Murray is playing Paris, so has 2500 points to reach yet. What do you think?
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Mathematically, of course there is a chance if Murray goes for a Paris final. But the rest doesn't depend solely on Murray, so real chances are slim.
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Hey duong... You mentioned earlier that commitment is chosen after WTF. I thought it was strictly end-of-year. Like some player can take a Wild card in a Challenger event and become committed for next year by the end of November or play CTF (Klizan for instance). So which is it, I want to employ this rule now.
before the WTF, after Paris actually (that's in the rulebook)

A Few years ago there was a difference between the top-30 after Paris and in the end of year, I think it was because of challenger points from previous year lost by Schüttler later than Paris, Lopez was the other guy concerned iirc. And of course some people were troubled by that difference

By the way, Stepanek withdrawing, he will not keep his commitment next year.
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