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**erickmartins** · 10-27-2012, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J99

Thanks for this, but I play for Canada, not England.

I should get a consistent method for this, for some people I just looked at the flag beside their names and for others I checked the country they're playing for. You're 100% right, I'll correct it

**erickmartins** · 10-28-2012, 08:48 AM

Less than an hour to go - still no picks from Machado & Gil, nickelS, Zeli15

**erickmartins** · 10-28-2012, 09:31 AM

Sunday differences

00:00 | (1) Vilnietė (LIT) vs. Machado & Gil (POR) - Missing picks from Machado & Gil
00:00 | (2) J99 (CAN) vs. ANDRE AGASSI (UKR) - NYS, VINCIGUERRA, NIEMINEN vs. ARNABOLDI, BURQUIER, REINWEIN
00:00 | (4) Broseghini (BRA) vs. rajknier (NED) - Same winners; SR Differences: BOSSEL 2-1 v 2-0
00:00 | (3) nickelS (RUS) vs. Zeli15 (CZE) - Missing picks from nickelS Missing picks from Zeli15

Picks count

BOSSEL 5 KLEC 0
NYS 2 ARNABOLDI 3
BURQUIER 4 VINCIGUERRA 1
EYSSERIC 5 ARTUNEDO MARTINAVARR 0
REINWEIN 1 NIEMINEN 4
PERRET 0 PAVIC 5
FIACAN 0 BAUMANN 5
STAKHOVSKY 5 ZWEILI 0

**erickmartins** · 10-28-2012, 09:44 AM

Press Conference

ANDRE AGASSI was expected today for a press conference before his match against J99. After sitting in front of the reporters, it was clear his mood was not the best: it seems that Geneva's nightlife got the best of him.

Martin Fernandes (Tribune de Genève): You haven't had a very good year - your best result was only a R16. What do you think is the reason for that?
ANDRE AGASSI: hmhgmmgfm
Martin Fernandes: sorry?
ANDRE AGASSI: next question.
Julien Blanc (Le Temps/Genève): Back in 2008 you were seen as a up-and-coming player, winning a Challenger in Bermuda. Do you think you can come back to that level?
ANDRE AGASSI: ...
Louis Obry (FrancePress): The press has been saying you are not taking the sport seriously anymore - you have many W/O losses this year. What do you have to say about that?
ANDRE AGASSI: not answering that.
Charles McFadden (Reuters): Geneva is known for many things: one of them is being the FIFA headquarters. Do you also follow football? What is your favourite team?
ANDRE AGASSI storms out of the press conference. Go figure.

(this is a piece of fiction, I hope no one will take it seriously :P)

**erickmartins** · 10-28-2012, 04:21 PM

Qualifying Round results

07:00 | (1) Vilnietė (LIT) vs. Machado & Gil (POR) #SRs: 6-0
06:07 | (2) J99 (CAN) vs. ANDRE AGASSI (UKR) #SRs: 6-5
08:08 | (4) Broseghini (BRA) vs. rajknier (NED) #SRs: 6-7
00:00 | (3) nickelS (RUS) vs. Zeli15 (CZE) #SRs: 0-0

Broseghini advances to the MD, J99 is LL

Singles Main Draw

00:00 | (1) YEBRA (ESP) vs. Blue Heart24 (CRO)
00:00 | ostm89 (USA) vs. maldini (SUI)
00:00 | RNW (SUI) vs. Deathless Mortal (CRO)
00:00 | lolada_4 (POR) vs. (5) Mishka Logvi (UKR)

00:00 | (3) juakos17 (CHI) vs. Kev. (AUS)
00:00 | ThePhenom (ROU) vs. sfar (POR)
00:00 | molosztash (TUR) vs. Chrissi (GER)
00:00 | (Q) ANDRE AGASSI (UKR) vs. (8) rodrigol_87 (ARG)

00:00 | (6) Adder A216 (NED) vs. EnriqueIG8 (ESP)
00:00 | Crvena Zvezda (SRB) vs. supertec (ESP)
00:00 | Tristanslav (SRB) vs. (Q) Broseghini (BRA)
00:00 | Freshi (GER) vs. (4) Nadie (RUS)

00:00 | (7) kr1s71an (BUL) vs. The Bulldog (GBR)
00:00 | (Q) rajknier (NED) vs. Toooom (FRA)
00:00 | (Q) Vilnietė (LIT) vs. Don Corleone (BRA)
00:00 | ESimp (CAN) vs. (2) sdtoot (GBR)

**erickmartins** · 10-28-2012, 04:26 PM

Monday matches - H2H

Code:

		        YEBRA			Blue Heart24
					
Home:		        Spain			Croatia
Direct H2H:		0			1
Total W-L		62-49			117-134
Year Highlight:		Kitzbuhel W		Wimbledon R16
					
		        ostm89			maldini
					
Home:		        United States		Basel, Switzerland
Direct H2H:		0			0
Total W-L		153-126			186-176
Year Highlight:		Brisbane QF		Braunschweig CH SF
					
		        RNW			Deathless Mortal
					
Home:		        Switzerland		Croatia
Direct H2H:		0			1
Total W-L		41-52			193-227
Year Highlight:		San Marino CH SF	Shanghai CH W
					
		        lolada_4		Mishka Logvi
					
Home:		       Portugal		        Kramatorsk, Ukraine
Direct H2H:		0			1
Total W-L		42-44			155-153
Year Highlight:		Buenos Aires QF		US Open R16
					
		        juakos17		Kev.
					
Home:		        Curicó, Chile		Australia
Direct H2H:		0			0
Total W-L		199-201			8-5
Year Highlight:		Us Open QF		St. Remy CH SF
					
		        ThePhenom		sfar
					
Home:		        Romania			Portugal
Direct H2H:		0			1
Total W-L		55-52			56-70
Year Highlight:		Barletta CH F		Fergana CH W
					
		        molosztash		Chrissi
					
Home:		        Turkey			Germany
Direct H2H:		2			0
Total W-L		61-59			46-66
Year Highlight:		Stuttgart W		Lima CH W
					
		        ANDRE AGASSI		rodrigol_87
					
Home:		        Donetsk, Ukraine	Argentina
Direct H2H:		1			0
Total W-L		150-187			140-127
Year Highlight:		Bogota CH R16		Astana CH F
					
		        Adder A216		EnriqueIG8
					
Home:		        Veenendaal, Netherlands	Spain
Direct H2H:		0			0
Total W-L		145-159			57-97
Year Highlight:		Queens W		Dallas 2 CH R16
					
		        Crvena Zvezda		supertec
					
Home:		        Serbia			Spain
Direct H2H:		0			0
Total W-L		138-123			59-63
Year Highlight:		Umag QF			Vigo CH F
					
		        Tristanslav		Broseghini
					
Home:		        Serbia			Brazil
Direct H2H:		1			0
Total W-L		61-55			86-128
Year Highlight:		San Marino CH W		Guadalajara CH QF
					
		        Freshi			Nadie
					
Home:		        Germany			Moscow, Russia
Direct H2H:		0			1
Total W-L		70-84			181-182
Year Highlight:		St. Remy CH W		Vancouver CH W
					
		        kr1s71an		The Bulldog
					
Home:		        Bulgaria		Great Britain
Direct H2H:		0			0
Total W-L		66-53			8-8
Year Highlight:		Dallas 2 CH F		Cali CH F
					
		        rajknier		Toooom
					
Home:		        Netherlands		France
Direct H2H:		0			0
Total W-L		6-11			50-44
Year Highlight:		Como CH QF		Istambul CH W
					
		        Vilnietė		Don Corleone
					
Home:		        Lithuania		Brazil
Direct H2H:		0			0
Total W-L		41-37			7-2
Year Highlight:		Sofia CH F		Como CH W
					
		        ESimp			sdtoot
					
Home:		        Canada			Great Britain
Direct H2H:		0			0
Total W-L		38-52			166-156
Year Highlight:		Alkmaar CH SF		Washington F

**erickmartins** · 10-28-2012, 04:43 PM

Sunday recap

The famed Geneva nightlife seems to have taken its toll - this morning, 3 of the players scheduled to appear for qualifying matches did not show up (including two supposed to play against each other, putting the tournament organization in a strange position). Vilnietè got a bye and was seen while coming back to the hotel, mumbling something about "waking up early for this".

Broseghini and rajknier played a near-perfect match: almost no unforced errors and lots of great rallies. rajknier ended up the happiest player by winning on a third-set tie-break, but the absences from the QD meant Broseghini also got a place on the MD.

J99 and ANDRE AGASSI's match, while not on the same technical level, was also entertaining. J99 won the first set with ANDRE AGASSI double-faulting while trying to go for a second-serve ace. ANDRE AGASSI came back by winning a second set after an unforced error from the opponent and consolidated the turn-around with a solid third set. ANDRE AGASSI qualifies to the MD, and J99 will be the sole LL, hoping for a player to give up.

J99 · 10-28-2012, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erickmartins

Qualifying Round results

07:00 | (1) Vilnietė (LIT) vs. Machado & Gil (POR) #SRs: 6-0
06:07 | (2) J99 (CAN) vs. ANDRE AGASSI (UKR) #SRs: 6-5
08:08 | (4) Broseghini (BRA) vs. rajknier (NED) #SRs: 6-7
00:00 | (3) nickelS (RUS) vs. Zeli15 (CZE) #SRs: 0-0

Broseghini advances to the MD, J99 is LL

Singles Main Draw

00:00 | (1) YEBRA (ESP) vs. Blue Heart24 (CRO)
00:00 | ostm89 (USA) vs. maldini (SUI)
00:00 | RNW (SUI) vs. Deathless Mortal (CRO)
00:00 | lolada_4 (POR) vs. (5) Mishka Logvi (UKR)

00:00 | (3) juakos17 (CHI) vs. Kev. (AUS)
00:00 | ThePhenom (ROU) vs. sfar (POR)
00:00 | molosztash (TUR) vs. Chrissi (GER)
00:00 | (Q) ANDRE AGASSI (UKR) vs. (8) rodrigol_87 (ARG)

00:00 | (6) Adder A216 (NED) vs. EnriqueIG8 (ESP)
00:00 | Crvena Zvezda (SRB) vs. supertec (ESP)
00:00 | Tristanslav (SRB) vs. (Q) Broseghini (BRA)
00:00 | Freshi (GER) vs. (4) Nadie (RUS)

00:00 | (7) kr1s71an (BUL) vs. The Bulldog (GBR)
00:00 | (Q) rajknier (NED) vs. Toooom (FRA)
00:00 | (Q) Vilnietė (LIT) vs. Don Corleone (BRA)
00:00 | ESimp (CAN) vs. (2) sdtoot (GBR)

Just checking, are you sure Broseghini gets automatic entry into the MD when they lost, because I think it says here that only players in who lost round 1 of qualifying and the main draw get to do this, not the final qualy round?: http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...50&postcount=4

Vilnietė · 10-28-2012, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J99

Just checking, are you sure Broseghini gets automatic entry into the MD when they lost, because I think it says here that only players in who lost round 1 of qualifying and the main draw get to do this, not the final qualy round?: http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...50&postcount=4

I think it's ok, because it's the first and only round of qualies

**erickmartins** · 10-28-2012, 05:40 PM

OOP for Monday

Jonathan EYSSERIC (FRA) vs Timo NIEMINEN (FIN) SR1 PTS
Andrey GOLUBEV (KAZ) vs Ivan SERGEYEV (UKR) SR2 PTS
Dusan LAJOVIC (SRB) vs Federico DELBONIS (ARG)SR3 PTS
Adrien BOSSEL (SUI) vs Ante PAVIC (CRO) SR4 PTS
Gregoire BURQUIER (FRA) vs Andrea ARNABOLDI (ITA) SR5 PTS
Sandro EHRAT (SUI) vs Olivier ROCHUS (BEL) SR6 PTS
Tobias KAMKE (GER) vs Matthias BACHINGER (GER)SR7 PTS
Sergiy STAKHOVSKY (UKR) vs Moritz BAUMANN (GER)SR8 PTS

Matches count for Singles 1st Round (Day 1/1), Doubles 1st Round (Day 1/2)
Matches start at 11:00am local time (CET)
Please send your picks to erickmartins.

Code:

EXPLANATION:

Match with nothing after it's name - Just pick the winner
Match with SR after it's name - Pick the winner and the sets (Ex: Arthurs 2-1)
Match with PTS after it's name - Pick the whole score (Ex: Arthurs 6:7 7:6 6:1)

J99 · 10-28-2012, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilnietė

I think it's ok, because it's the first and only round of qualies

So, it's still called the final round, not the 1st.

**erickmartins** · 10-28-2012, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J99

So, it's still called the final round, not the 1st.

it's first and final. The rule is supposed to be applied in the situation of placing ALTs/LLs, and it is clear that a round where that can happen configures a "first round" for the purpose of that rule. As this is the case here, I see no reason not to use it.

J99 · 10-28-2012, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erickmartins

it's first and final. The rule is supposed to be applied in the situation of placing ALTs/LLs, and it is clear that a round where that can happen configures a "first round" for the purpose of that rule. As this is the case here, I see no reason not to use it.

I think maybe you misunderstand the rule, it says that if there are no ALT's or LL's to replace a situation where both players in a 1st round qualy or main draw match only fail to send picks only then can a LL move into the next round, it doesn't say "what round suits the manager" or anything like that, as far as I know the final qualy round will always be the final qualy round, maybe you should ask your fellow managers about this.

**erickmartins** · 10-28-2012, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J99

I think maybe you misunderstand the rule, it says that if there are no ALT's or LL's to replace a situation where both players in a 1st round qualy or main draw match only fail to send picks only then can a LL move into the next round, it doesn't say "what round suits the manager" or anything like that, as far as I know the final qualy round will always be the final qualy round, maybe you should ask your fellow managers about this.

You can bring the issue yourself in the managers thread if you wish - I'm quite sure the rule applies here and they'll answer so. Marto already gave his opinion above.

I'm not sure exactly what do you think should happen otherwise - no LL moving into the main draw? Bye for the 1st seed? It just wouldn't make any sense.

J99 · 10-28-2012, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erickmartins

You can bring the issue yourself in the managers thread if you wish - I'm quite sure the rule applies here and they'll answer so. Marto already gave his opinion above.

I'm not sure exactly what do you think should happen otherwise - no LL moving into the main draw? Bye for the 1st seed? It just wouldn't make any sense.

Why should I bring it in the managers thread, it's you who needs to know the rule, I don't see why you can't/won't do this. Marto did not say anything, Vilniete did and they are not a manager.

A player getting a bye is normal.