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10-10-2012, 09:30 PM
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Re: Why are ballbashers more highly regarded than tacticians like Murray?
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Mandy tactician?LOL......worst pusher in top 50......disgusting player
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10-10-2012, 10:02 PM
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Re: Why are ballbashers more highly regarded than tacticians like Murray?
Because it's more difficult being a successful attacking player in this shit-slow court era than having a defensive game. Case closed.
I have a more relevant question: if the OP really believes in what he is writing here about smart tennis being entertaining, why does he hate Simon and call him a pusher when he has a game similar to Murray's?
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10-10-2012, 10:05 PM
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Re: Why are ballbashers seen more highly than defenders?
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Murray is brilliant to watch. I suppose too many don't appreciate the nuances of the game to enjoy watching him... He can do it all, and he pulls off some orgasmic shots. The most frustrating thing was for us, the fans, when he used to regularly play too passively and lose big matches as a result. Lendl has gone a long way towards righting the balance now. It's not just Murray though, according to MTF everyone is either a pusher or a brainless ballbasher.
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Can compare to other sports like boxing. Who would people rather watch? A tactician that spends round after round trying to avoid hits while countering getting points to win by decision, or someone who goes for a knockout even if it can cost him the match?
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10-10-2012, 10:14 PM
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Re: Why are ballbashers more highly regarded than tacticians like Murray?
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Yet the to-be YE #1 lost to him. At least Roger lost to a ballbasher, so in that sense Roger>>>Faker.
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well Roger will always be >>>>Novak so I dont get your point..........your boy lost to this pusher on grass in 3 sets on a sunny day aw SW19.Nole lost in a tornado |
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10-10-2012, 10:25 PM
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Re: Why are ballbashers more highly regarded than defenders?
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His forehand is just a spinny, loopy shot. It goes above his opponents' heads half the time and is awful to look at. It's nowhere near JesusFed's forehand.
Nothing about Nadal aside from his clay prowess (unfortunately) deserves being called the best of anything.
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Nadal's forehand is not the greatest, Roger's is. He's not the greatest at anything apart from clay titles/overall clay career. Understand?
Also, I don't quite get how I'm stupid. Please "enlighten" me on why I am.
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Yeah, I'll change it. Murray is a tactical baseliner, not a pusher or a defender.
But he doesn't have the best forehand. Nowhere near.
That's the worst match I've ever seen Roger play. Healthy Nadal defeated a 1% Roger badly. Congratulations  |
I don't think Roger was at 1% that day. Maybe 0.75%. But Mugtwezi is too dumb to get that. |
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10-10-2012, 10:43 PM
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Re: Why are ballbashers more highly regarded than tacticians like Murray?
ball bashers are the backbone of tennis
slow courts produce fake tennis
this is obviously the reason why
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10-10-2012, 10:49 PM
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Re: Why are ballbashers more highly regarded than tacticians like Murray?
Because he is disgusting pushing ugly looking swearing brat.
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10-10-2012, 10:55 PM
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Re: Why are ballbashers more highly regarded than tacticians like Murray?
The better question is why are mindless pushers being branded as 'tacticians' these days  ?
There's hardly anything tactical about a gameplan based on retrieving as many balls as possible especially in this slow court era.
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10-10-2012, 11:11 PM
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Re: Why are ballbashers more highly regarded than tacticians like Murray?
Ballbashers are more interesting to watch.
Although it depends on what they mean by "more highly regarded". Rated better or more supported?
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10-10-2012, 11:15 PM
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Re: Why are ballbashers more highly regarded than tacticians like Murray?
Ball bashers are not accceptable.
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Re: Why are ballbashers more highly regarded than tacticians like Murray?
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Because he is disgusting pushing ugly looking swearing brat.
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10-10-2012, 11:21 PM
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Re: Why are ballbashers more highly regarded than tacticians like Murray?
because murray waits for the UE's... happy?
and i still cant believe murray's luck this summer. murray uso champ? LOL
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10-10-2012, 11:22 PM
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Re: Why are ballbashers more highly regarded than tacticians like Murray?
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The better question is why are mindless pushers being branded as 'tacticians' these days ?
There's hardly anything tactical about a gameplan based on retrieving as many balls as possible especially in this slow court era. |
yes, and del potro is the worst offender. high powered percentage playing pusher
murray is however far more tactical than nadal or djokovic, it must be said. he has a slice, and can volley, for a start |
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10-10-2012, 11:28 PM
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Re: Why are ballbashers more highly regarded than tacticians like Murray?
It's pretty simple - most people find attacking tennis far more enjoyable to watch. It's amusing when fans of defensive players try to claim like they are master tacticians when it has nothing to do with whether you are an attacking or defensive player.
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Re: Why are ballbashers more highly regarded than tacticians like Murray?
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It's pretty simple - most people find attacking tennis far more enjoyable to watch. It's amusing when fans of defensive players try to claim like they are master tacticians when it has nothing to do with whether you are an attacking or defensive player.
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This is a very good point. One could argue it's that more difficult to try and press your opponent with aggressive tactics, trying to think and at the same time execute high-risk shots. This is what makes Federer great as well. His game nowadays is tactical aggression. |
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