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10-09-2012, 08:36 PM
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Re: Tsonga: Referees always favor top 4
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Originally Posted by silver lining
That's how he feels, yes. Does that automatically make it true? No.
It won't change anything, anyway. It will probably only make things harder for him. I can't imagine the top 4 or the ATP are going to appreciate his comments. He should stop talking and get back to playing good Tennis.
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I might be wrong but are you implying that top 4 not appreciating his comments might make things harder for him? If so, you're basically admitting the problem, as it'd mean they have a kind of power they shouldn't have.
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10-09-2012, 11:13 PM
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Re: Tsonga: Referees always favor top 4
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yes Laver played in a much more varied era with 3 GS on grass
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laver won a lot of titles on grass, clay, carpet, wood and hard
you're barking up the wrong tree by suggesting he was a one surface pony
more to the point, can't compare 1960s to 2010s
can't really compare 1990s to 2010s either, but less so, some aspects can be compared
such as the courts, players at the top, grand slams etc
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10-09-2012, 11:42 PM
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Re: Tsonga: Referees always favor top 4
If the umpires always favor the top four how did the top four reach the top four when they were once ranked lower? Tsonga is full of crap and can't admit that there are four players who are much better than he is.
8 to 3 advantage Federer
8 to 5 advantage Djokovic
6 to 1 advantage Murray
7 to 3 advantage Nadal
Of course, H2H don't tell the whole story. More importantly, the top four perform better against the universe of all players.
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10-09-2012, 11:49 PM
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Re: Tsonga: Referees always favor top 4
He may well have a point.
That final in Beijing surely adds to his oppinon - a clear point that should have been replayed got offered in straights to his opponent, Tsonga rightfully complained but to no avail
Off the record, can someone please explain to me why that Lahyani-guy is still so popular, while making massive mistakes again-and-again??? His good looks, his nice way of getting around with fans, WHAT is it?
A judge should do his job, whatever the public opinion.
Sorry for saying so, but Mo Lahyani should GO.
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10-09-2012, 11:52 PM
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Re: Tsonga: Referees always favor top 4
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Originally Posted by hyperren
...it's starting to look like Tsonga is looking at every possible excuse for why he's not doing any better than Top 5 or 6 (I remember that "other players are playing more smaller tournaments" excuse a couple of months back). Any excuse apart from admitting he's not playing well enough or consistently enough to get the points or the wins.
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This comment is true as well as what Tsonga says. It would be better of Jo shut up and let his racquet do the talking. If the top 4 gets such great treatment then why doesn't he become a top 4 player? Like all the French he lacks balls and looks for excuses.
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10-10-2012, 12:31 AM
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Re: Tsonga: Referees always favor top 4
Tsonga might be right, but that's not the mindset I want to see in him. It's not like he is being clearly robbed.
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10-10-2012, 12:35 AM
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Re: Tsonga: Referees always favor top 4
When Clownga wins multiple slams, he can have the favor of the umpires. But I suspect he has no game to do so.
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10-10-2012, 12:44 AM
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Re: Tsonga: Referees always favor top 4
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Tsonga might be right, but that's not the mindset I want to see in him. It's not like he is being clearly robbed.
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I agree. He should be more focused on improving his BH and ROS.
However, I can also understand him. It must be frustrating to see the same players getting preferential treatment time and again in every respect. That and the USO semis this year must be really depressing for a guy like Jo: to win a Slam, he'd always have to find a way to hit through the best defenders the game has ever seen on super slow surfaces. But that is not enough: playing better than them won't be enough, he needs to play much better than them, just better won't cut it for the reasons we know.
I don't like to see this resignation from Jo, but I'm sure it will not affect his effort to win titles and really someone had to say something. It is obviously demoralizing, he's not getting any help, that's for sure.
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10-10-2012, 12:49 AM
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Re: Tsonga: Referees always favor top 4
Well, tough titty Jo.Life is unfair, get used to it.
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10-10-2012, 12:52 AM
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Re: Tsonga: Referees always favor top 4
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Originally Posted by Mark Lenders
However, I can also understand him. It must be frustrating to see the same players getting preferential treatment time and again in every respect. .
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What planet are you from? That has always been the case in all aspects of life, not just in pro sports. Clownga is just bitter because he is not good enough to take advantage. Umpires shitting their pants when a player looks at them is a privilege that was earned by the big 3. They all were journeymen at some point. When Clownga wins multiple slams, he can also benefit, until then he's just a butthurt scrub who come off as a whiner.
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10-10-2012, 01:03 AM
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Re: Tsonga: Referees always favor top 4
Ok why does this have to be a discussion about what anyone says really, this is not looking good. 
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how rough it is with them.
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Just imagine their on court antics and put it off court.
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I'd pay for a ring side seat to view their "off court" activities. 
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10-10-2012, 02:02 AM
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Re: Tsonga: Referees always favor top 4
Tsonga just lost his top 5-10 ranking privileges from Umpires
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10-10-2012, 02:02 AM
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Re: Tsonga: Referees always favor top 4
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Originally Posted by Topspindoctor
What planet are you from? That has always been the case in all aspects of life, not just in pro sports. Clownga is just bitter because he is not good enough to take advantage. Umpires shitting their pants when a player looks at them is a privilege that was earned by the big 3. They all were journeymen at some point. When Clownga wins multiple slams, he can also benefit, until then he's just a butthurt scrub who come off as a whiner.
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The thing is that no players should get preferential treatment from umpires.
Telling Clownga to become a Top 4 player is irrelevant.
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Nadal of course. He and Djokovic are by far the most likeable members in top 4.
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As a knowledgable tennis fan (unlike some people here), I can tell you exactly that. There are tennis players who have problems with playing indoor tennis because of the different lights, different sounds etc. compared to outdoors and Nadal is obvioulsy one of those players.
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10-10-2012, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by GOATsol
The thing is that no players should get preferential treatment from umpires.
Telling Clownga to become a Top 4 player is irrelevant.
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'Should' and 'How things really are' are two very different things. Time for Clownga and some posters here to face the reality.
Should the umpires treat everyone equally? Yes. Will it ever happen? No. Nadal, Federer and Djokovic are not the first and certainly not the last to abuse the system. When they are gone, someone else who wins many slams will take their place.
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10-10-2012, 06:17 AM
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Re: Tsonga: Referees always favor top 4
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Originally Posted by Sham Kay
Tsonga just lost his top 5-10 ranking privileges from Umpires
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