View Poll Results: Vote for speeding up the courts or against it!
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10-09-2012, 07:15 AM
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Re: "Speed up the courts and general court speed Thread"
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Originally Posted by caisenma
haven't seen anything from shanghai yet. how is that court playing this year?
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the Grandstand looks fast to me, faster than last year (which was already quite fast although slower than last week's Beijing and Tokyo), that said Anderson-Isner is the first match I watch, but the bounce seems to be quick.
Looks near to last week's conditions to me, which would be a nice surprise as usually Shanghai was slower than previous week's tournament.
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10-09-2012, 08:35 AM
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#782
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Re: "Speed up the courts and general court speed Thread"
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Originally Posted by Litotes
RG 1999 was about the same as RG 2009.
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10-09-2012, 08:38 AM
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Re: "Speed up the courts and general court speed Thread"
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Originally Posted by MTwEeZi
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You think it was slower in 2009? Can you state your reasons? |
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10-09-2012, 03:37 PM
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Re: "Speed up the courts and general court speed Thread"
Shanghai court looks OK from what I've seen. Comparable to Dubai or Cincinnati from my first glimpses.
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10-09-2012, 03:43 PM
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Re: "Speed up the courts and general court speed Thread"
Shanghai is decoturf no? Beijing and Tokyo i think were too, so basically they should be have all similar speed- difference should be in balls and weather, but Dubai and Cinci are faster- they are Decoturf 2 i think.
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10-09-2012, 03:48 PM
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Re: "Speed up the courts and general court speed Thread"
yeah, watching some play now and i'd definitely say this is decent speed. the balls especially seem to be travelling pretty quickly.
amazing how slow the US Open has become by comparison.
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10-09-2012, 03:50 PM
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Re: "Speed up the courts and general court speed Thread"
It's only Ashe that's slow and it's not hard to work out why.
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10-09-2012, 03:52 PM
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Re: "Speed up the courts and general court speed Thread"
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Originally Posted by rocketassist
Shanghai court looks OK from what I've seen. Comparable to Dubai or Cincinnati from my first glimpses.
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Cincy is quicker, Dubai has a higher bounce imo.
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Last edited by duong : 10-09-2012 at 04:08 PM.
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10-09-2012, 04:19 PM
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Re: "Speed up the courts and general court speed Thread"
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Originally Posted by romismak
Shanghai is decoturf no? Beijing and Tokyo i think were too, so basically they should be have all similar speed- difference should be in balls and weather, but Dubai and Cinci are faster- they are Decoturf 2 i think.
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Raonic said in an interview Shanghai/Tokyo surfaces are the same speed, but the balls are faster in Shanghai. That's pretty similar to what Nadal and Murray said last year too - there was quite a bit of talk about how quick the Heads were playing (and in Dubai too). |
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10-09-2012, 04:34 PM
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Re: "Speed up the courts and general court speed Thread"
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Originally Posted by philosophicalarf
Raonic said in an interview Shanghai/Tokyo surfaces are the same speed, but the balls are faster in Shanghai. That's pretty similar to what Nadal and Murray said last year too - there was quite a bit of talk about how quick the Heads were playing (and in Dubai too).
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That´s explains speed guns, comparing to Tokyo both John and Milos alredy in 1st match i watch had pretty good numbers of big serves - i mean KPH. |
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10-09-2012, 06:46 PM
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Re: "Speed up the courts and general court speed Thread"
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Originally Posted by romismak
Shanghai is decoturf no? Beijing and Tokyo i think were too, so basically they should be have all similar speed- difference should be in balls and weather, but Dubai and Cinci are faster- they are Decoturf 2 i think.
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Shanghai, as well as Tokyo and Beijing, are DecoTurf. But not all DecoTurf courts have the same pace, just think about Arthur Asher Stadium and other USO courts. You can adjust the speed with sand, and of course with balls. And weather affects, too.
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Awful tournament,
Awful last few weeks.
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10-09-2012, 06:55 PM
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Re: "Speed up the courts and general court speed Thread"
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You think it was slower in 2009? Can you state your reasons?
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The only logical reason he can state is the weather. They weren't even using those abnormal balls back then.
As for the Shanghai court, looks super fast compared to most super fast hard courts the Mafioso talks about. |
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10-09-2012, 07:00 PM
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Re: "Speed up the courts and general court speed Thread"
monaco winning an indoor event is the ultimate proof that surfaces have been disgustingly slowed down beyond recognition
at least players like correjta and moya in the 90s knew how to play on hard court, and very well too
this clay court grinder would be cannon fodder for the likes of guga and muster, much like he is for nadal right now
the only difference would be that he would be restricted to clay courts with his bland game
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10-09-2012, 07:28 PM
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#794
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Re: "Speed up the courts and general court speed Thread"
I dont know what to say. I guess it dapends whether to speed up or not  |
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10-09-2012, 07:48 PM
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Re: "Speed up the courts and general court speed Thread"
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Originally Posted by Looner
The only logical reason he can state is the weather. They weren't even using those abnormal balls back then.
As for the Shanghai court, looks super fast compared to most super fast hard courts the Mafioso talks about.
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Well, as of yet he hasn't tried to give any reason, I don't see what it would be but I suppose he might still surprise us. Unless he has given up but is reluctant to admit it. Admitting you're wrong is somewhat of an unusual incident in here. Me, I'm regularly wrong about something and not afraid to admit it. If he still thinks I'm wrong here, he still got time to tell us why.
Good to see Shanghai is fast. I was hoping it would be. |
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