[Slasher1985]

Originally Posted by guichard

It seems the same for Federer he has 21 when in reality it is 20. Unless they are counting Davis Cup?

Federer really has 21. And yes, Davis Cup is counted.

[guichard]

Yeah, Isner still has 25 even with DC. Stange though

[duong]

Originally Posted by Slasher1985

I wasn't expecting this drop, so I should have asked here about him retiring from Beijing. Only I forgot and missed this sole ranking placement. I didn't count it as a mistake though, cause according to the ranking rules, Granollers should not have gotten this penalty.

I didn't expect it either, it was not completely clear in my eyes : clear cases like Isner's in Monte-Carlo very seldom happen.

[duong]

Originally Posted by Slasher1985

ATP seem to count an extra tournament for Isner. They're saying 26, when in reality, it's 25, his breakdown says so as well. What am I missing here?

one of his two zeropointers for Monte-carlo or for last week ?

he also lost in the first round in Sydney this year and in Valencia last year

[guichard]

Originally Posted by duong

one of his two zeropointers for Monte-carlo or for last week ?

he also lost in the first round in Sydney this year and in Valencia last year

Still 25 with all those included

[Slasher1985]

This is his breakdown.

Grand Slams
Date Tournament Round Points Drop Date
1 27.08.2012 US Open R32 90 09.09.2013
2 16.01.2012 Australian Open R32 90 28.01.2013
3 27.05.2012 Roland Garros R64 45 10.06.2013
4 25.06.2012 Wimbledon R128 10 08.07.2013
ATP World Tour Masters 1000
Date Tournament Round Points Drop Date
5 08.03.2012 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Indian Wells F 600 18.03.2013
6 06.08.2012 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Canada S 360 12.08.2013
7 07.11.2011 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Paris S 360 12.11.2012
8 13.05.2012 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Rome R32 45 20.05.2013
9 21.03.2012 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Miami R32 45 01.04.2013
10 06.05.2012 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Madrid R32 10 13.05.2013
11 12.08.2012 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Cincinnati - 0 19.08.2013
12 15.04.2012 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Monte Carlo - 0 22.04.2013
13 09.10.2011 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Shanghai - 0 15.10.2012
ATP World Tour 500
Date Tournament Round Points Drop Date
14 14.09.2012 Davis Cup - 170
15 01.10.2012 Beijing - 0 07.10.2013
Best of Other Countable Tournaments
Date Tournament Round Points Drop Date
16 19.08.2012 Winston-Salem W 250 26.08.2013
17 09.07.2012 Newport W 250 15.07.2013
18 09.04.2012 Houston F 150 15.04.2013
Non-Countable Tournaments
Date Tournament Round Points Drop Date
19 25.07.2012 London Olympics Q 135 05.08.2013
20 16.07.2012 Atlanta S 90 22.07.2013
21 27.02.2012 Delray Beach S 90 04.03.2013
22 20.02.2012 Memphis Q 90 25.02.2013
23 20.05.2012 Nice Q 45 27.05.2013
24 09.01.2012 Sydney R16 0 14.01.2013
25 31.10.2011 Valencia R32 0 05.11.2012

I don't see any tournament not displayed there. However, he is displayed with 26 tournaments on the Rankings page.

[Slasher1985]

Ferrer can now officially say good-bye to the fourth place. 600 points drop makes it impossible anytime soon.

[RogerExpress]

Sorry guys, I don´t understand something about 0-point penalization for Federer not playing Tokyo. I know players must play at least 4 ATP 500 (Montecarlo, Davis Cup and Olympics not counting), Roger have played Dubai, and Rotterdam and as he can play only in Basel he won't be able to complete 4 ATP500 requirement, so what I understand is that's the reason why he is penalized.

But take now Djokovic case, he just played Dubai this year, so in order to play 4 ATP 500 he should have played Washington, Beijing/Tokyo, Basel/Valencia. Following the same logic used with Federer shouldn't he have gotten a 0-point after Washington week?

[Litotes]

Originally Posted by RogerExpress

Sorry guys, I don´t understand something about 0-point penalization for Federer not playing Tokyo. I know players must play at least 4 ATP 500 (Montecarlo, Davis Cup and Olympics not counting), Roger have played Dubai, and Rotterdam and as he can play only in Basel he won't be able to complete 4 ATP500 requirement, so what I understand is that's the reason why he is penalized.

But take now Djokovic case, he just played Dubai this year, so in order to play 4 ATP 500 he should have played Washington, Beijing/Tokyo, Basel/Valencia. Following the same logic used with Federer shouldn't he have gotten a 0-point after Washington week?

Djokovic played Monte Carlo. MC counts towards the 500 requirement, despite giving 1000 points to the winner.

[RogerExpress]

Originally Posted by Litotes

Djokovic played Monte Carlo. MC counts towards the 500 requirement, despite giving 1000 points to the winner.

Ok, I thought MC doesn't count for these purposes, now it makes sense , thanks

[uxyzapenje]

If Novak doesn't play Basel and gets a 0-pointer for it, will he be able to count Dubai? I mean, the rules for this year allow them to count 6 best tournaments instead of 4 + 2. But if he doesn't fulfill the commitment of playing 4 ATP500s, will he be limited to counting only 4 500s (MC, DC and OG included) and with his 0-pointer from Basel, that would mean only MC, OG and Beijing?

[duong]

Originally Posted by uxyzapenje

If Novak doesn't play Basel and gets a 0-pointer for it, will he be able to count Dubai? I mean, the rules for this year allow them to count 6 best tournaments instead of 4 + 2. But if he doesn't fulfill the commitment of playing 4 ATP500s, will he be limited to counting only 4 500s (MC, DC and OG included) and with his 0-pointer from Basel, that would mean only MC, OG and Beijing?

He will be able to count Dubai in the end of the year for sure as even with the zeropointer in Basel he will only have 4 ATP500 results in his rankings.

But I'm also pretty sure he will also count it during the Bercy week when he will have 5 ATP500 results in his rankings (including zeropointers), since this year the limit to counting only 4 ATP500 results has been erased, and I think it also applies to players who won't actually play 4 ATP500 tournaments in the calendar year if you look at Nadal's ranking breakdown which includes 5 ones if you include the Davis cup which used to be included in the limit to 4 ATP500 results between 2009 and 2011.

[sunsfuns]

Originally Posted by Slasher1985

Ferrer can now officially say good-bye to the fourth place. 600 points drop makes it impossible anytime soon.

This year was always very unlikely, but how about after AO if Nadal is forced to miss it?

[Raiden]

Slasher would you simplify the sheet and remove the first column, please?

I mean especially in order to (as much as possible) minimize the sideways scrolling by saving every bit of space available.

Besides, this first column isn't even fully visible anyway (without manually expanding the column).

So just dump it and let the current column B become the first column. The color is there so nothing will be missing. What d'you think of that?

[Slasher1985]

On the image posted here... maybe. On the file... never !!