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Old 10-06-2012, 06:27 AM   #136
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Default Re: 2012 MTF Top 10 Favourite Retired Players (4th update in post #110)

1. Agassi ("i hated tennis with a dark and secret passion" how can you hate this guy??)
2. Santoro
3. Rios
4. Ancic
5. Kiefer
6. Rafter
7. Henman
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1- Karlis Lejnieks
2- Mike Vermeer
3- Maciek Rajski
4- Michael Chang
5- Vitas Gerulaitis
6- Fabrice Santoro
7- Andy Roddick
8- Tim Henman
9- Sebastien Grosjean
10- Peter Luczak

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Doris, I vaguely remember having posted before in this thread, but after your kind invitation I couldn't resist perhaps posting again. There might well be some changes since the former time I posted, there are just too many great players of whom I have fond memories.

Okay, here goes:

1. Arthur Ashe - my first memory of watching tennis on the telly, as a wee kiddie. Great player, and an even greater humanitarian. Didn't deserve his dreadful untimely death at all.

2. Stefan Edberg -the ultimate S/V player and a genuine gentleman.

3. Jimmy Connors - my favourite 'bad guy'. Interchangeable with Johnny Mac, btw.

4. Bjorn Borg - ultimate Ice Man.

5. Yannick Noah - passionate and entertaining.

6. Younes el Aynaoui - same reasons.

7. Ivan Lendl - surprise surprise, the guy 'everyone hated' back in his best years. It was good to see him play that oldies tournament recently in my country! He gave some rather amusing interviews as well.

8. Ivan ljubicic - the formerly 'elderly statesman' of tennis.

9. Jan Siemerink - if only for having a positive h2h against the GOAT.

10. Fernando Gonzales - the Hand of Stone, and never to forget, his hilarious bouts of bad sportsmanship.

Honorary mentionings: Vitas Gerulaitis, Fabrice Santoro, Gustavo Guga, and perhaps a couple of others who I can't remember how to spell their names right now.
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1. Arnaud Clement
2. Fabrice Santoro
3. Sebastian Grosjean
4. Nicolas Lapentti
5. Andy Roddick
6. Marat Safin
7. Younes El Aynaoui
8. Mario Ancic
9. Andre Agassi
10. Tim Henman
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Default Re: 2012 MTF Top 10 Favourite Retired Players (4th update in post #110)

Never in doubt that Safin is winning this, lol. I'm just surprised that Borg is ranked so low (11) . I guess too many young guys who never had a chance to watch his matches.
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Doris, I vaguely remember having posted before in this thread, but after your kind invitation I couldn't resist perhaps posting again. There might well be some changes since the former time I posted, there are just too many great players of whom I have fond memories.
The list is subject to change at any given moment.
Well, the last time you posted 2007 in the favorite players thread which was a general thread for active and retired players.

As I know that you won't decide between Roger and Rafa anyway in an active players thread I just thought to suggest you to post in the retired players thread instead

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Never in doubt that Safin is winning this, lol.
I guess we have to wait until Roger retires to see a new winner in this section

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I'm just surprised that Borg is ranked so low (11) . I guess too many young guys who never had a chance to watch his matches.
Could be the reason, yes.

I started to watch tennis after he retired for the first time and don't really remember that much from his comeback try in the 90ies.

What surprises me a bit is to see Wilander being ranked so low.

He was one of THE players in the 80ies but apparently people these days only think of him as a commentator on Eurosport.
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:11 PM   #142
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Never in doubt that Safin is winning this, lol. I'm just surprised that Borg is ranked so low (11) . I guess too many young guys who never had a chance to watch his matches.
it's clear that the poll hugely favours players from the 90s and 00s (for the latter : the ones who don't play anymore) because of the age of MTF members.

McEnroe is only just ahead of Borg in the poll despite playing until much later (Borg really stopped in 1981, his later "come-backs" were jokes), and despite, in the opinion of many ones, being much more entertaining (Borg was a huge star and hugely respected but his game was often not entertaining, and even, let's say it all, boring ).
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:17 PM   #143
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Reason for all is serve & volley.

I'll mention some oldies that I've never seen live here but since YT now allows some long clips, I can say I've seen them play.

Richard Krajicek - youth idol
Rod Laver - class
John McEnroe - the one and only one
Pete Sampras - no comment
Stefan Edberg - grace
Arthur Ashe - great YT moments
Ken Rosewall - WCT Finals 1972 !!
Michael Stich - smooth serve
Tim Henman - RG 2004 !
Jan Siemerink - Low Countries solidarity, lol
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:19 AM   #144
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Here are my favorite retired players:

1. Cliff Richey - just a bulldog on the court; loved watching this guy play
2. Ivan Lendl - a legend, no more need be said
3. Guillermo Vilas - one of the greatest players of all time, and a real treat to watch on the court
4. Petr Korda - liked this guy's game, although the drug ban really killed his career and changed the way fans thought about him
5. Rod Laver - perhaps the greatest player ever; he against Federer in their prime would have been quite a match
6. John McEnroe - great talent, pretty bad attitude, but always fun to watch
7. Jimmy Connors - 1200+ lifetime wins; need you say more?
8. Michael Chang - a real scrappy player; loved his occasional underhand serve
9. Stefan Edberg- a beautiful game all around
10. Bjorn Borg - still may have the highest lifetime winning percentage of all time, even after going 0-16 in his ill-fated comeback after his retirement
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:30 PM   #145
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Fifth update and first one with Andy Roddick and Rainer Schüttler in it (I added all their points from the active players thread into this one):

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1 Safin, Marat 425
2 Roddick, Andy 419
3 Edberg, Stefan 360
4 Agassi, Andre 335
5 Kuerten, Gustavo 286
6 Rafter, Patrick 279
7 Sampras, Pete 270
8 Ivanisevic, Goran 218
9 Henman, Tim 209
10 McEnroe, John 208

11 Santoro, Fabrice 193
12 Borg, Björn 187
13 Gonzalez, Fernando 183
14 Becker, Boris 179
15 Ancic, Mario 130
16 Ljubicic, Ivan 118
17 Lendl, Ivan 113
18 Kafelnikov, Yevgeny 107
19 Courier, Jim 85
20 Coria, Guillermo 82
20 Rios, Marcelo 82

22 Grosjean, Sebastian 81
22 Krajicek, Richard 81
22 Stich, Michael 81
25 Moya, Carlos 74
26 Muster, Thomas 73
27 Gaudio, Gaston 72
28 Laver, Rod 61
29 Phillippoussis, Mark 59
30 Chang, Michael 50

31 Clement, Arnaud 49
32 Mecir, Miroslav 43
33 El Aynaoui, Younes 41
33 Johansson, Thomas 41
35 Corretja, Alex 39
35 Rosewall, Ken 39
37 Ashe, Arthur 35
38 Schüttler, Rainer 33
39 Escudé, Nicolas 32
39 Noah, Yannick 32

41 Pavel, Andrei 31
41 Schalken, Sjeng 31
43 Kiefer, Nicolas 28
44 Johansson, Joachim 27
45 Björkman, Jonas 25
45 Lapentti, Nicolas 25
45 Zivojinovic, Slobodan 25
48 Dent, Taylor 24
49 Rosset, Marc 21
49 Rusedski, Greg 21

51 Calleri, Agustin 20
51 Korda, Petr 20
53 Connors, Jimmy 19
53 Leconte, Henri 19
55 Arthurs, Wayne 17
55 Bahrami, Mansour 17
55 Canas, Guillermo 17
55 Jarryd, Anders 17
55 Norman, Magnus 17
55 Sargsian, Sargis 17
55 Scrichaphan, Paradorn 17

62 Pioline, Cedric 16
63 Hrbaty, Dominik 15
64 Berasategui, Alberto 13
64 Kucera, Karol 13
66 Ferreira, Wayne 12
66 Luczak, Peter 12
66 Medvedev, Andrej 12
66 Vilas, Guillermo 12
70 Larsson, Magnus 11
70 Wilander, Mats 11

72 Lejnieks, Karlis 10
72 Richey, Cliff 10
74 Carlsson, Kent 9
74 Cash, Pat 9
74 Gerulaitis, Vitas 9
74 Lee, Martin 9
74 Nastase, Ilie 9
74 Roche, Tony 9
74 Vermeer, Mike 9

81 Labadze, Irakli 8
81 Lloyd, John 8
81 Rajski, Marciej 8
84 Acasuso, José 7
85 Golmard, Jerome 6
85 Haarhuis, Paul 6
85 Martin, Todd 6
85 Woodbridge, Todd 6
89 Bates, Jeremy 5
89 Clavet, Francisco 5
89 Emerson, Roy 5
89 Enqvist, Thomas 5
89 Siemerink, Jan 5
89 Verkerk, Martin 5

95 Boetsch, Arnaud 4
95 Carlsen, Kenneth 4
95 Hoad, Lew 4
95 Krachtovil, Michel 4
95 Zabaleta, Mariano 4

100 Aspelin, Simon 3
100 Koevermans, Mark 3
100 Nyström, Joakim 3
100 Panatta, Adriano 3
100 Panatta, Claudio 3
100 Sanguinetti, Davide 3
100 Vemic, Dusan 3
107 Arazi, Hicham 2
107 Costa, Albert 2
107 Gambill, Jan-Michael 2
107 Gaudenzi, Andrea 2
107 Günthardt, Heinz 2
107 Karbacher, Bernd 2
107 Svensson, Jonas 2

114 Alami, Karim 1
114 Eltingh, Jakko 1
114 Koellerer, Daniel 1
114 Spadea, Vince 1
114 Westphal, Michael 1
114 Woodforde, Mark 1
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1. Michael Chang
2. Ilie Nastase
3. Bjorn Borg
4. Pete Sampras
5. Tim Henman
6. Andre Agassi
7. Patrick Rafter
8. Boris Becker
9. Jimmy Connors
10. Marat Safin
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1 Gonzalez
2 Safin
3 Schuttler
4 Santoro
5 Ljubicic
6 Clement
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Edberg, Ferrero, Noah, Rusedski, Lendl, Sampras, J. Johansson, Moya, McEnroe, Borg

I don't remember Laver or Ashe, those centenatians in here must be remember them...or Fred Perry for that matter.

alternates: Bjorkmann, Krajan, El Aynaoui
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1. Pete Sampras
2. Andre Agassi
3. Andy Roddick
4. Marat Safin
5. Fernando Gonzalez

Not really old enough to remember some others.
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1. Ivanisevic
2. Ljubicic
3. Edberg
4. Agassi
5. Connors
6. Stich
7. Becker
8. Rafter
9. Mcenroe
10. Zivojinovic
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