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Old 10-06-2012, 03:51 PM   #181
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tbf to the guy, Tojo did win a masters (beating mighty MS king Kafelnikov in the final. Oh wait...) and make the Wimbledon SF. He's better than say... William Bowrey (incredibly random example, but w/e)
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Del Potro, Johansson, Costa and Gaudio are all below Murray. For slam winners, they're careers outside that win are mediocre.
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He's not Djokovic Andy's opponents actually played very well against him at the US Open, unlike a certain 40+ match streak in 2011 where every opponent played like shit
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Bogomolov brought his GOAT form in the first round.
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Lopez played the match of his life.
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Bogomolov brought his GOAT form in the first round.
Bogomolov's GOAT form is equivalent to my 5 year old cat's average Tennis form.
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Lopez played great. Cilic played very well for the first set and a bit before Murray made the comeback. Berdych played great for a the first set and last. Djokovic played well for the entire match, Andy was just better. There's some names for you

Whereas almost every opponent (Andy played amazing in that Rome match but gifted it away, some others did too) during Djokovic's run played awful
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Raonic played near his best and Andy played terribly. That was the only way he was going to win and it happened. Even though Andy was absolutely awful, he is still made the match as close as this. Says a lot about him when at 30% he can push 100% (give or take) Raonic that far.
Exactly. That was probably the best Raonic has ever played while Andy was nowhere even close to his best. Despite this the match could still have gone either way with Andy having match points
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Del Potro, Johansson, Costa and Gaudio are all below Murray. For slam winners, they're careers outside that win are mediocre.
Can't argue with this. Before the USO final they were all better than Murray. Now Murray owns them all.
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Dodig was also pretty good.
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Bogomolov brought his GOAT form in the first round.
Actually I think that Bogomolov played closer to his level than far better players with whom Andy played at that tournament. For example, obviously Djokovic gave Andy better fight, but he was able to show more than that. Bogo? Not so much.

It should be adequately perceived, IMO.

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Lopez played the match of his life.
It`s not true. Lopez was average at best. Murray barely moved and hit at some moment and Feli still didn`t take advantage. Say a lot.

How many Lopez`s matches you saw in past? I can remember dozens better than this from him with solid opponents.

Though I must add here I guess that Andy won his Slam fair and square, but no need to exaggerate resistance he faced.
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Actually I think that Bogomolov played closer to his level than far better players with whom Andy played at that tournament. For example, obviously Djokovic gave Andy better fight, but he was able to show more than that. Bogo? Not so much.

It should be adequately perceived, IMO.
you have Gasquet as the next number 1. I guess that's all I need to know about you
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I like Richie and I hope a lot of great results are still ahead of him. Any problems with wishing good for favourite player?
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Actually I think that Bogomolov played closer to his level than far better players with whom Andy played at that tournament. For example, obviously Djokovic gave Andy better fight, but he was able to show more than that. Bogo? Not so much.

It should be adequately perceived, IMO.



It`s not true. Lopez was average at best. Murray barely moved and hit at some moment and Feli still didn`t take advantage. Say a lot.

How many Lopez`s matches you saw in past? I can remember dozens better than this from him with solid opponents.

Though I must add here I guess that Andy won his Slam fair and square, but no need to exaggerate resistance he faced.
Lopez played way above average, especially first two sets.
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A loser losing. No shocker here. Good to see talent come through.
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