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Bellucci in 2 1 5.26%
Bellucci in 3 4 21.05%
Klizan in 2 9 47.37%
Klizan in 3 3 15.79%
Either one, as long as the Klizanwagon gets derailed 2 10.53%
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:14 PM   #1
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This one is juicy I'm not a fan of Bellucci but I sure as hell hope he wins. The bandwagon must be derailed, even if Lenders and J99 think it's not bandwagoning VAMOS THOMAZ!
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I donīt understand what kind of bandwagon is still hurting OP. Klizan reached second week at USO and won St.Petersburg. He made some fans and thatīs it. They predicted him to be top 20 (top 10 is bit unreal atm) and thatīs okay prediction - because guy is ranked 33. Can we just stop talking about Klizan with the word "bandwagon" and start taking him as a solid top 35-40 player who can go even further ??? Oh, yes, MTF and its useless posters ..

Well, to the topic - this is kind of a match I have been waiting for. Both guys play nearly same style and currently is Klizan higher in rankings than Belluci. Thomaz hasnīt played since DC, but they have met at last year Challenger Tour Finals - Belluci prevailed 3-6, 6-4, 7-6(7), but match was very tense and close.

If Klizan is full healthy (he had flu last week) I expect tough 3-setter with hopefully Martin pulling through.
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I donīt understand what kind of bandwagon is still hurting OP. Klizan reached second week at USO and won St.Petersburg. He made some fans and thatīs it. They predicted him to be top 20 (top 10 is bit unreal atm) and thatīs okay prediction - because guy is ranked 33. Can we just stop talking about Klizan with the word "bandwagon" and start taking him as a solid top 35-40 player who can go even further ??? Oh, yes, MTF and its useless posters ..
It's not the bandwagoning in general that is bothering me, but rather the constant denial that people are bandwagoning Klizan. It's so obviously bandwagoning, and yet people still deny it
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It's not the bandwagoning in general that is bothering me, but rather the constant denial that people are bandwagoning Klizan. It's so obviously bandwagoning, and yet people still deny it
Yes, it is a little bit of bandwagon. But it is a obvious act when someone outside top 30-40 seems to be good and proves that.

Can you now stop with it and start talking to the topic, which is match between Bellucci and Klizan ? It could be very interesting.

Btw, I am a Klizan fan since 2010, after he started work with Kucera. Thatīs why I am alergic to see that. You should remove it from the title, though.
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Yes, it is a little bit of bandwagon. But it is a obvious act when someone outside top 30-40 seems to be good and proves that.

Can you now stop with it and start talking to the topic, which is match between Bellucci and Klizan ? It could be very interesting.

Btw, I am a Klizan fan since 2010, after he started work with Kucera. Thatīs why I am alergic to see that. You should remove it from the title, though.
I'm glad someone finally admits it Now I will stop. If only it was admitted earlier... I did talk about the match and how I hope Bellucci will win in 3, and I do honestly think Bellucci will win(the 1-0 H2H helps as well) I'll remove the b word from the title
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I'm glad someone finally admits it Now I will stop. If only it was admitted earlier... I did talk about the match and how I hope Bellucci will win in 3, and I do honestly think Bellucci will win(the 1-0 H2H helps as well) I'll remove the b word from the title
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Well, I watched that match and it was decided in 3rd set TB, first two sets was Klizan better player, but was bit of unlucky at the end of 2nd set (had some chances at 4-4, didnīt convert and lost 4-6). Thatīs why H2H factor is useless. I mean, not if someone leads 11-0 or 14-1, but when someone leads lets say 9-5 or 15-10 it could make some illusions Not speaking about 1-0.
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Well, I watched that match and it was decided in 3rd set TB, first two sets was Klizan better player, but was bit of unlucky at the end of 2nd set (had some chances at 4-4, didnīt convert and lost 4-6). Thatīs why H2H factor is useless. I mean, not if someone leads 11-0 or 14-1, but when someone leads lets say 9-5 or 15-10 it could make some illusions Not speaking about 1-0.
I still think it might help I play FITD a lot, and if there is a match where the 2 players are very close (like in this case) and 1 player has a 1-0 H2H then I would go with the player with the favorable H2H just because there isn't much else to base it on
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I still think it might help I play FITD a lot, and if there is a match where the 2 players are very close (like in this case) and 1 player has a 1-0 H2H then I would go with the player with the favorable H2H just because there isn't much else to base it on
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None taken. I'm so embarrassed now...

But honestly, what else is there to predict a winner on?
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None taken. I'm so embarrassed now...

But honestly, what else is there to predict a winner on?
Youīre kinda right, but it doesnīt work here because of one fact : I have seen that match and it was decided by two points.

Even stick has two endings, right ?
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Youīre kinda right, but it doesnīt work here because of one fact : I have seen that match and it was decided by two points.

Even stick has two endings, right ?
Yes, but it could matter Isn't Klizan injured as well?
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Yes, but it could matter Isn't Klizan injured as well?
No, he isnīt injured - but he had cold or flu last week. Belluci didnīt played since DC, only this week with his straight set loss to Falla. Really open match I would say
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