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10-04-2012, 01:59 AM
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Re: Canadian Players 2
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Originally Posted by Snowwy
If he is healthy, he's a borderline ATP player
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Perhaps, but if he meets Erik in the final, would you want to say that he will win the match 100%.
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And yet he's (Ferrer) still inferior to all of them.(Delpo, Berd, Tsonga)
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- Lenders after Ferrer beats Tsonga in the French SF.
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10-04-2012, 03:42 AM
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Re: Canadian Players 2
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Perhaps, but if he meets Erik in the final, would you want to say that he will win the match 100%.
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Will I know if he is healthy? Will he even know if he is healthy? If he is, I would say 98% on hard courts AV wins and 100% on clay courts, yes. But AV hasn't been healthy since 04? or 05? Not sure when, but its been a really long time.
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10-05-2012, 12:28 AM
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Re: Canadian Players 2
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Will I know if he is healthy? Will he even know if he is healthy? If he is, I would say 98% on hard courts AV wins and 100% on clay courts, yes. But AV hasn't been healthy since 04? or 05? Not sure when, but its been a really long time.
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Yes, but even at his peak, which was 11 years ago, he was #33, so I don't know that he would even be top 100 if he was healthy now.
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Originally Posted by Mark Lenders
And yet he's (Ferrer) still inferior to all of them.(Delpo, Berd, Tsonga)
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- Lenders after Ferrer beats Tsonga in the French SF.
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10-05-2012, 12:49 AM
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Re: Canadian Players 2
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Originally Posted by misty1
Of course he's not in it to make those players feel good. But i feel like every level of the tour was designed to help you build yourself up so that you can get to that next level. Futures were designed to help people break on to the tour. Challengers are the next step up from futures and are to help you prepare for the atp tour and then once you get good enough in challengers you start transitioning to the main tour, hopefully forever leaving the challengers behind. Some guys need to go back and forth between challengers and the atp tour.
Erik can love the game all he wants but there are plenty of challengers for him to to get in to or try and get in to. Yes there are some great young players playing the futures tour but there is a real difference between the challengers and futures tour
if he wants to make an earning playing this game then why not try and play the events that will earn you more money? futures only really help you if you do good in them point wise and the money isnt that great
also if he does have an injury even if its just a small one why not take the time off to get rid of it and then go back and play at a higher level
besides if he is injured to the point where its affecting his play that much and he really cant fight through it then maybe ikt would be better to tak time off.
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Yeah but if he is lightly injured and then packs it in, he ll likely slip out of entry in Aussie Open qualies, not to mention lose his rhythm while on the sidelines. (At the same time is would be calculated risk, as he may become more injured.) If he isn't injured and this is about confidence, his lack of confidence would likely explain his pure judgement in doing this to try to improve his confidence. (a downward spiral is underway). Or maybe he knows that his confidence comes and goes, and that in January he could be on the rise again, and playing Futures now just allows him to wait out low confidence now and be able to play the qualies when it returns...
To your point that this is rather poor sportsmanship - perhaps players with a certain ranking should simply be barred from entry into Futures events (or a new name for these tourneys should be come up with!).
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10-05-2012, 12:46 PM
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Re: Canadian Players 2
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The reason it looks screwed up is that ATP suddenly decided a couple of weeks ago to have the rankings page default to the race (i.e. year to date). Nice, I suppose, if you are looking for the race, but extremely confusing for people who thought they were getting the rankings. You have to click on the menu on left for singles rankings.
Chvojka is 214 in rankings, 227 in the race.
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Thanks for pointing this out.
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10-06-2012, 01:54 PM
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Re: Canadian Players 2
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Yes, but even at his peak, which was 11 years ago, he was #33, so I don't know that he would even be top 100 if he was healthy now.
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Even if he's not healthy VInci won.
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10-22-2012, 10:18 PM
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Re: Canadian Players 2
Alexandre LATYCHEV of Canada is in his first futures main draw in USA F29.
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10-22-2012, 11:06 PM
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Re: Canadian Players 2
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Originally Posted by Snowwy
Alexandre LATYCHEV of Canada is in his first futures main draw in USA F29.
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Actually he did not.
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Originally Posted by Mark Lenders
And yet he's (Ferrer) still inferior to all of them.(Delpo, Berd, Tsonga)
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10-22-2012, 11:26 PM
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Re: Canadian Players 2
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Actually he did not.
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What? Is he not in the draw? Itf tennis says he is.
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10-22-2012, 11:41 PM
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Re: Canadian Players 2
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What? Is he not in the draw? Itf tennis says he is.
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Oh yeah, he is in, but as a LL, he didn't actually qualify for it.
Isn't he still a junior btw?
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And yet he's (Ferrer) still inferior to all of them.(Delpo, Berd, Tsonga)
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10-23-2012, 02:07 AM
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Re: Canadian Players 2
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Oh yeah, he is in, but as a LL, he didn't actually qualify for it.
Isn't he still a junior btw?
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Yeah, LL, but still first main draw.
He is still 17, I know nothing about his junior career, do you?
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10-23-2012, 02:34 AM
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Re: Canadian Players 2
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Yeah, LL, but still first main draw.
He is still 17, I know nothing about his junior career, do you?
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All I know is he's ranked in the 1000's as a junior.
Once he had to play 4 qualy rounds to get into a Futures, but lost the 4th of course.
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Quote:
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And yet he's (Ferrer) still inferior to all of them.(Delpo, Berd, Tsonga)
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10-23-2012, 11:59 AM
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Re: Canadian Players 2
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Originally Posted by J99
All I know is he's ranked in the 1000's as a junior.
Once he had to play 4 qualy rounds to get into a Futures, but lost the 4th of course.
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He is actually ranked in the 2000's in the juniors.
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11-13-2012, 02:48 AM
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Re: Canadian Players 2
A Canadian named Ryan Chow just earned his first ATP point in a futures event in Burundi. Qualified and won a round. Does anybody have info on him?
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11-13-2012, 04:56 AM
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Re: Canadian Players 2
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A Canadian named Ryan Chow just earned his first ATP point in a futures event in Burundi. Qualified and won a round. Does anybody have info on him?
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http://itftennis.com/procircuit/play...erid=100086957
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Quote:
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And yet he's (Ferrer) still inferior to all of them.(Delpo, Berd, Tsonga)
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