View Poll Results: Is Rafa an underachiever?

Honestly · 10-01-2012, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspindoctor

Underachiever. Nadal has talent to win 20 slams. In fact his mental strength is quite overrated. He has choked away quite a few slams in his career

If that's the case then Fed should have won 50+ slams.

Topspindoctor · 10-01-2012, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Honestly

If that's the case then Fed should have won 50+ slams.

Incorrect.

Noserer is probably the LPOAT (luckiest player of all time). If he played in an era where players had balls and talent, he would have less than 10 slams. When Nadal and Djoker reached their prime, he struggled to win 1 slam every year. It's easy to dominate when your "rivals" consist of Roddick and Hewitt.

GOATsol · 10-01-2012, 12:52 AM

Tdoc stopped using the name Olderer because it acknowledged that Fed is past his prime and his argument lies on the idea that this is prime fed.

Honestly · 10-01-2012, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspindoctor

Incorrect.

Noserer is probably the LPOAT (luckiest player of all time). If he played in an era where players had balls and talent, he would have less than 10 slams. When Nadal and Djoker reached their prime, he struggled to win 1 slam every year. It's easy to dominate when your "rivals" consist of Roddick and Hewitt.

So who is the 31-year old #1 when these lucky bums are in their 'peak' Dulltard?

Honestly · 10-01-2012, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATsol

Tdoc stopped using the name Olderer because it acknowledged that Fed is past his prime and his argument lies on the idea that this is prime fed.

Tag · 10-01-2012, 01:00 AM

nadal should be fine when he plays poker after his tennis career

the playing surfaces are quite homogenized

no crying federer either

Mountaindewslave · 10-01-2012, 01:04 AM

this thread is interesting but Nadal has achieved just the right amount so far of what you would really expect him to. he's talented, but not the most talented. surely he is one of the best physical specimens the game has ever seen and surely his fortitude of mind is incredible but you can't expect him to dominate hard court with his style even despite his limited weaknesses.

he does have some weaknesses, that sometimes he hits the ball very short, can get pounced on by big hitters, his serve is not always reliable, and that if his movement is off very much in a match things can go badly for him because he relies on it so much.

I think he's achieved what is expected for his style and besides the AO 2012 he has won what he should. like many greats though, you can always say they 'could have' won more, which is shown in the cases of the finals he has lost at GS finals in Wimbledon and the Opens

Topspindoctor · 10-01-2012, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Honestly

So who is the 31-year old #1 when these lucky bums are in their 'peak' Dulltard?

Peak Nadal destroys Noserer on any surface as was demonstrated in 2008/early 2009. The mono excuse Noserertards have cooked up was really pathetic in my opinion. It's time to admit that Noserer's career and GOAT status is tainted by his inability to beat Nadal on the big stage and being his turkey on clay - not even my opinion, btw. It's the opinion of many pundits, sports journalists and commentators. GOAT my ass

Even Clownpras had winning H2H against Drugassi....Noserer got humiliated by Nadal time and time again, while succeeding against gutless mugs like Roddick and Hewitt who bent down nice and low every time he faced them

I guess it's too bad Nadal turned pro - Noserer would have won 20+ slams by now and 2 calendar slams back to back giving sycophants like yourself even more reason to kiss his ass.

GOATsol · 10-01-2012, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mountaindewslave

this thread is interesting but Nadal has achieved just the right amount so far of what you would really expect him to. he's talented, but not the most talented. surely he is one of the best physical specimens the game has ever seen and surely his fortitude of mind is incredible but you can't expect him to dominate hard court with his style even despite his limited weaknesses.

he does have some weaknesses, that sometimes he hits the ball very short, can get pounced on by big hitters, his serve is not always reliable, and that if his movement is off very much in a match things can go badly for him because he relies on it so much.

I think he's achieved what is expected for his style and besides the AO 2012 he has won what he should. like many greats though, you can always say they 'could have' won more, which is shown in the cases of the finals he has lost at GS finals in Wimbledon and the Opens

Well said

rocketassist · 10-01-2012, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspindoctor

Peak Nadal destroys Noserer on any surface as was demonstrated in 2008/early 2009. The mono excuse Noserertards have cooked up was really pathetic in my opinion. It's time to admit that Noserer's career and GOAT status is tainted by his inability to beat Nadal on the big stage and being his turkey on clay - not even my opinion, btw. It's the opinion of many pundits, sports journalists and commentators. GOAT my ass

Even Clownpras had winning H2H against Drugassi....Noserer got humiliated by Nadal time and time again, while succeeding against gutless mugs like Roddick and Hewitt who bent down nice and low every time he faced them

I guess it's too bad Nadal turned pro - Noserer would have won 20+ slams by now and 2 calendar slams back to back giving sycophants like yourself even more reason to kiss his ass.

Federer's level in his three/four dominant years was ridiculously good. He alone arguably prevented Roddick and Hewitt from becoming 6+ slam winners, or at least one of them anyway (they'd have most likely faced off in a few finals)

Honestly · 10-01-2012, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rocketassist

Federer's level in his three/four dominant years was ridiculously good. He alone arguably prevented Roddick and Hewitt from becoming 6+ slam winners, or at least one of them anyway (they'd have most likely faced off in a few finals)

The problem with Topspinmug and other era tards is that they don't recognize this fact.They have no logic whatsoever and are just spewing their bitter hate towards the GOAT wherever they go. If Roger did not dominate the way he did then Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, etc would have more slams and then they would have praised these players. You can't win with era tards because they are simply to dumb and bitter to understand logic. Greatness comes with having critics and haters. The more haters you have the greater you are. Just look at Jesus

MTwEeZi · 10-01-2012, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Orka_n

How dumb are you? MTwEeZi is just talking his usual irrelevant nonsense.

BigJohn · 10-01-2012, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rocketassist

Federer's level in his three/four dominant years was ridiculously good. He alone arguably prevented Roddick and Hewitt from becoming 6+ slam winners, or at least one of them anyway (they'd have most likely faced off in a few finals)

You understand tennis and actually know what you are talking about.

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Originally Posted by Honestly

The problem with Topspinmug and other era tards is that they don't recognize this fact.They have no logic whatsoever and are just spewing their bitter hate towards the GOAT wherever they go. If Roger did not dominate the way he did then Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, etc would have more slams and then they would have praised these players. You can't win with era tards because they are simply to dumb and bitter to understand logic. Greatness comes with having critics and haters. The more haters you have the greater you are. Just look at Jesus

All that hate comes from Nadal spending years at #2 behind Federer. Nadal handled it a lot better than his tards. Some of them are evidently still messed up, especially now that the GOAT is again #1 and that Nadal sits at #4, closer to the #9 spot than the #1 rank, occupied by Federer, the GOAT, current ranked #1. While Nadal is #4, 3 spots behind Federer.

Honestly · 10-01-2012, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigJohn

You understand tennis and actually know what you are talking about.

All that hate comes from Nadal spending years at #2 behind Federer. Nadal handled it a lot better than his tards. Some of them are evidently still messed up, especially now that the GOAT is again #1 and that Nadal sits at #4, closer to the #9 spot than the #1 rank, occupied by Federer, the GOAT, current ranked #1. While Nadal is #4, 3 spots behind Federer.

Yeah it's eating them up inside. But hey, they chose to be Nadal tards not Nadal fans. They have to live with it. I never hated Nadal all that much. His tards made me hate him.

BigJohn · 10-01-2012, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Honestly

Yeah it's eating them up inside. But hey, they chose to be Nadal tards not Nadal fans. They have to live with it. I never hated Nadal all that much. His tards made me hate him.

I think for some of them, it was not a choice; the fire in their loins/manginas was too powerful to resist. Becoming a Rafatard is not a rational decision for some, it's a decision made by the little head.

In any case, the effect of all those years Nadal spent at #2 behind Federer is the same: bitter-messed-up-irrational-Fedhating-Nadaltards.

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