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Old 09-12-2012, 07:02 AM   #181
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LOL. All those women going for those fat rich guys are out screwing around with the fit good looking tennis/golf pros now.

I dont make the rules. People who are good looking and attractive have the biggest advatage in todays society.

Lesson here....make sure you have kids with a spouse thats attractive. Keep your distance from the dogs and fatties. I know its horrible and shallow but thats just the way it is. I have personally never felt bad for people wether they were rich or poor. I do feel for ugly people though. You can always make money if you want to but you cannot make yourself better looking. I thank the lord that I am not one of them. Nobody, nobody wants to be ugly no matter how much money they have. Fat people have it rough as well. Attractive people think overweight people are gross as a general rule.

Like I said. I dont make the rules. There is a reason why society is obsessed with attractive celebrities and pornography.
my mom thought murray was sooo good looking when i was watching the uso final(just to prove a point)
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:24 PM   #182
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Changed my discourse? I hadn't even presented my discourse.

Not to mention I have seen few challenges (if any) to the proposition that IQ tests are the best tool we have to measure intelligence. The reproaches directed at me have consisted on arbitrarily attributing preconceived ideas to me and then dismantling them.

A vintage MTF straw man.
right. like i said, the posts are for you and everyone else to read. i have no interest in pointing fingers at anyone. what's to gain anyhow? i have my opinion on you and that's that.
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:26 PM   #183
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People who are good looking and attractive have the biggest advatage in todays society.
not sure how we got to this point of discussion but i kind of disagree.

good looks help but at the end of the day most girls are more focused on personality.
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not sure how we got to this point of discussion but i kind of disagree.

good looks help but at the end of the day most girls are more focused on personality.
It was brithater's debut in non-tennis. And a very pathetic one, to say the least. Better to not reply and he probably will not come back.
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my mom thought murray was sooo good looking when i was watching the uso final(just to prove a point)
Only point that proves is that your mum has good taste in men.

Half of you should stop wasting time writing on MTF and use your writing and debating skills to get rich.. sounds pretty simple at least
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Yes she inherited wealth, but she's turned the $1.8 billion she inherited in 2006 into $29.17 billion half a decade later.
That's amazing! What makes it even more impressive that she did that during the years of global economic crisis Not the easiest business either.
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LOL. All those women going for those fat rich guys are out screwing around with the fit good looking tennis/golf pros now.

I dont make the rules. People who are good looking and attractive have the biggest advatage in todays society.

Lesson here....make sure you have kids with a spouse thats attractive. Keep your distance from the dogs and fatties. I know its horrible and shallow but thats just the way it is. I have personally never felt bad for people wether they were rich or poor. I do feel for ugly people though. You can always make money if you want to but you cannot make yourself better looking. I thank the lord that I am not one of them. Nobody, nobody wants to be ugly no matter how much money they have. Fat people have it rough as well. Attractive people think overweight people are gross as a general rule.

Like I said. I dont make the rules. There is a reason why society is obsessed with attractive celebrities and pornography.
I'd rather be Stepanek than someone good-looking who is a complete looser.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:20 PM   #188
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Here's what I see (maybe some one here can help me out with this if I'm missing something):

The world is full of people doing shit jobs for shit money. They work at McDonalds, as janitors/garbagemen, the night shift at the 24hr supermarket or gas station, they make running shoes and iPads for a dollar a day (or much less), etc... They can never get rich because their wage is not high enough and there are not enough hours in the day at that rate, even if you could somehow work all 24 of them. Actually, fuck getting rich; they usually can't break even.

Therefore, all these people should quit these shit jobs and get better ones -- ones that lead to wealth: lawyer, doctor, marketing director, CFO, director of mining exploration, top 20 tennis player, actor, pop star, etc.

Except that even rich people like Big Macs. And what's the good of being rich if you can't get gas at 3 in the morning because no one wants that shitty job (for that matter, you can't get gas at any time without getting out of your car and pumping it yourself -- and what fun is that when you're rich? Isn't the point to pay some asshole to do that for you?). And I don't care how good the surgeons, anesthesiologists, OB-GYNs and others are at that hospital; if no one is going to clean the piss and wash the sheets and wipe everything down with disinfectant, patients are going to be dying of infections.

So if we're going to pay janitors, garbage collectors, gas station attendants, factory workers, burger flippers etc a really, really high wage -- so someone will actually choose to take those jobs -- this will make the cost of Big Macs, gasoline, NIKEs and iPads prohibitively high -- too high even for the rich.

I don't know, maybe I'm dumb. But to my eye, we live in a system where there have to be losers in order for there to be winners.
wow, two weeks and no responses. I'm disappointed -- I thought we had some economics experts on this forum.

it wasn't a trolling post; I genuinely can't figure out how everyone can make lots of money.
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wow, two weeks and no responses. I'm disappointed -- I thought we had some economics experts on this forum.

it wasn't a trolling post; I genuinely can't figure out how everyone can make lots of money.
It was a cute post. So adorable getting all righteous and everything, it's a nice colour on you

I can't figure it out either though, but the Australian Labor government is certainly trying. Taxing the hell out of anyone who tries to get ahead.
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It was a cute post. So adorable getting all righteous and everything, it's a nice colour on you

I can't figure it out either though, but the Australian Labor government is certainly trying. Taxing the hell out of anyone who tries to get ahead.

It goes without saying that my post was anti-capitalist; that system doesn't really hide the fact that it needs a slave class in order to function. But I'm not shilling for socialism either. For one, I know there will always be people who want to be rich. Not just financially stable and secure, but filthy rich. And if you pay everyone about the same middle wage, you will lose the highly educated and highly skilled jobs. Why suffer through law or medical school and the high-stress job of being a lawyer or doctor if you can make roughly the same money as a sales clerk at the Gap or answering phones and booking appointments at a salon?

But you still haven't answered my question: how is it possible for everyone to be wealthy? how can those people doing those lowly (but frankly quite necessary) jobs work hard enough to "get ahead"?
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But you still haven't answered my question: how is it possible for everyone to be wealthy? how can those people doing those lowly (but frankly quite necessary) jobs work hard enough to "get ahead"?
It is not a total answer, but it should be obvious that anyone who really wants to get ahead should be aspiring to move to a better job, not just sit in their lowly job all their life.
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But you still haven't answered my question: how is it possible for everyone to be wealthy? how can those people doing those lowly (but frankly quite necessary) jobs work hard enough to "get ahead"?
Adam Smith's theory is simple. If everyone tries their best, average wealth will rise.

Employers will pay whatever it takes to get people to do the "quite necessary" jobs. If no-one wants those jobs, they'll have to pay more to get people to do them. Hence, even the poorest wealth rises in a capitalist society.
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The main problem with the Adam Smith's theory is that the invisible hand is really invisible in fact
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Adam Smith's theory is simple. If everyone tries their best, average wealth will rise.

Employers will pay whatever it takes to get people to do the "quite necessary" jobs. If no-one wants those jobs, they'll have to pay more to get people to do them. Hence, even the poorest wealth rises in a capitalist society.
yeah I noted that in my original post. I just think goods would get very expensive if all the employees associated with bringing that product/service to market were highly paid. The price of things has those labour costs built in, no? Then you always need to make more and more money just to afford all your basics plus still make enough above that to be considered "rich". Just seems like a vicious cycle to me.
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