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Old 09-22-2012, 09:44 PM   #46
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I don't understand what Nieminen's serve speed has to do with his style of play which is by far much more attacking than Seppi's style.
Talk about nitpicking...

Seppi's style (as mentioned plenty of times in the thread): finishing points quickly when his first serve is in (his first serve allows him to do this many times, finishing with the first serve-forehand winner combo but not always of course). Being patient and constructing points which allows him to flatten his shots at right times, not rushing winners like other players. His consistency allows him to do it because he's not a player that will usually hit an UE after two or three shots. When rushed by players that hit harder, decent counterpunching abilities that allow him to get back on position. Inside out forehand is his most safe shot to get the winner when unleashing.

Not passive IMO, passive IYO! Cool with that.
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Old 09-22-2012, 09:53 PM   #47
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Talk about nitpicking...

Seppi's style (as mentioned plenty of times in the thread): finishing points quickly when his first serve is in (his first serve allows him to do this many times, finishing with the first serve-forehand winner combo but not always of course). Being patient and constructing points which allows him to flatten his shots at right times, not rushing winners like other players. His consistency allows him to do it because he's not a player that will usually hit an UE after two or three shots. When rushed by players that hit harder, decent counterpunching abilities that allow him to get back on position. Inside out forehand is his most safe shot to get the winner when unleashing.

Not passive IMO, passive IYO! Cool with that.
Don't think Seppi is famous for his Serve-FH combo.
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Old 09-22-2012, 10:00 PM   #48
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Don't think Seppi is famous for his Serve-FH combo.
Never said it was. When he hits a good first serve in (he's doing that way more now than before) he goes for the finishing shot, just that. Of course you were going to nitpick by pointing out a single phrase out of all I wrote
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even ollie rochus would go for the finishing shot to finish the point easily after a good first serve has landed in. who wouldn't do it?
Seppi's style is not a SV-FH game.

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Old 09-22-2012, 10:12 PM   #50
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even ollie rochus would go for the finishing shot to the point easily after a good first serve as landed in.
Not all players do, most yes. With an improved and better first serve, your chances of hitting one clearly increase.

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Soeda should be named the challengers vulture. guy could barely pass R1 in Wimby against a pathetic Kunytsin. his only relevant decent win at tour level this year being against a semi-injuried Wawrinka in Chennai.
or trashing Nishikori
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Haa, first it was in the top 100 now you change it to top 50 Granollers, Soeda, Nieminen, F. Mayer was getting outhit by him too despite his unorthodox game. And those in terms of pace but could mention many, many more that I don't see them hitting through Andreas.
Soeda's not in the top 50 anymore, he's #52 now.
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just realised he wrote Florian Mayer I thought he meant Leonardo Mayer.
So Florian Mayer would be a more passive player than Seppi? guys this is getting interesting
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just realised he wrote Florian Mayer I thought he meant Leonardo Mayer.
So Florian Mayer would be a more passive player than Seppi? guys this is getting interesting
With Mayer it is very hard to rate his agressiveness. He is one of the most skillful players, but it is another criteria. IMO, it`s debatable.
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just realised he wrote Florian Mayer I thought he meant Leonardo Mayer.
So Florian Mayer would be a more passive player than Seppi? guys this is getting interesting
Just stating he got outhit by Seppi earlier this week, didn't even include him on the 2-3 names you told me to point out. Now that you say you thought it was Leo, it is indeed more funny and interesting for your case since he's basically a ballbasher that hits with huge power off both forehand and backhand! Would never mention him near any list of 'passive' players.
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With Mayer it is very hard to rate his agressiveness. He is one of the most skillful players, but it is another criteria. IMO, it`s debatable.
Exactly, too much flair from Flo. But, again, lol at the confusion with Leo Mayer who's an inconsistent ballbasher in every way.
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Exactly, too much flair from Flo. But, again, lol at the confusion with Leo Mayer who's an inconsistent ballbasher in every way.
Yep, in some stretches he outhit even Delpo at US.
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Just stating he got outhit by Seppi earlier this week, didn't even include him on the 2-3 names you told me to point out. Now that you say you thought it was Leo, it is indeed more funny and interesting for your case since he's basically a ballbasher that hits with huge power off both forehand and backhand! Would never mention him near any list of 'passive' players.
I didn't read that part. As for the names you mentioned, I disagree on everyone except maybe for Soeda so I choose Nieminen for an example. Again, he got outhit by Seppi this week so what? Does this make him a passive player? I don't think so, and I've never read of anyone in here thinking Mayer is a passive player.

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I didn't read that part. As for the names you mentioned, I disagree on everyone except maybe for Soeda so I choose Nieminen for an example. Again, he got outhit by Seppi this week so what? Does this make him a passive player? I don't think so, and I've never read of anyone in here thinking Mayer is a passive player.
Lol, this discussion has been extended way too much I think. My main point was just that Seppi isn't a passive player, I've already described his game fully like 5 times already in this thread so no point going into it again. If you disagree with that and with the names I gave, which many are debatable of course, then that's fine man. For me, IMO, Seppi is definitely not passive but if you think the opposite then that's cool. And no, I just mentioned the fact that he outhit Flo because, clearly, a passive player wouldn't be able to do it or at least the chances would be ridiculously small. Finally, no, I don't consider Flo a passive player either! His game is pretty unique, unorthodox and I enjoy watching him play a lot.
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The fact that you came up with only 4 debatable names out of 50 players gives an idea of how hard can be to find other players more passive than Seppi. but it's ok we went too far off from the match topic. maybe a dedicated thread would be interesting to have more visibility and opinions.
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