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Easy to stain 10 10.64%
Pistol Mugpras 4 4.26%
Tio Toni 26 27.66%
fear of Nadal getting destroyed by Rosol 25 26.60%
Muger Frauderer 13 13.83%
The price of Persian rugs went up 16 17.02%
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:51 PM   #31
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Because it wa too easy to stain


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The real answer is that the ATP was too afraid of having Berrer become the ATP king.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:05 PM   #33
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Why couldn't they just slow down carpet .
They did at some events, ended up even with a medium speed carpet at a few.
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Hasn't the homogenisation on the outdoor courts (which is the biggest part of the season) changed the metagame for less net play in general?


Do you think the game play would be different now if they switched back to carpet on the indoor season?


(Honest questions, as I barely followed the tour back then.)
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Hasn't the homogenisation on the outdoor courts (which is the biggest part of the season) changed the metagame for less net play in general?


Do you think the game play would be different now if they switched back to carpet on the indoor season?


(Honest questions, as I barely followed the tour back then.)
I think it would encourage attacking tennis. But in the course of a year there would be little change in the game play. At the very least it would force players to adapt and diversify the calendar, providing a oppounity for attacking players to gain points.
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Because carpet sucks.
So the pushfests we're having on these clay courts all year round are fantastic.
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So the pushfests we're having on these clay courts all year round are fantastic.
US Open final was more of a pushfest than any Nadal match in the whole clay season so that's funny you say that; clay is a beautiful surface, it's a great surface, it's just a shame the damnation of hard court and dissapearance of carpet. grass is exaggerated about the changes, it always wore down over other generations as tournaments went on, people just choose to ignore this because it happened that big servers dominated it in the 90s
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US Open final was more of a pushfest than any Nadal match in the whole clay season so that's funny you say that; clay is a beautiful surface, it's a great surface, it's just a shame the damnation of hard court and dissapearance of carpet. grass is exaggerated about the changes, it always wore down over other generations as tournaments went on, people just choose to ignore this because it happened that big servers dominated it in the 90s
I agree that the USO final was a worse pushfest than any nadull match.

I disagree about the grass- I think it slowed down quite a bit.
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So the pushfests we're having on these clay courts all year round are fantastic.
Clay isn't a pusher surface - Mugray sucks on it after all.
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Clay isn't a pusher surface - Mugray sucks on it after all.
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But the super slow USO court did allow for the awful USO final.
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I agree that the USO final was a worse pushfest than any nadull match.

I disagree about the grass- I think it slowed down quite a bit.
The USO final was a worse pushfest than any other match in recent memory. It was simply horrendous, hurt the eyes just watching. If this is the future of tennis, then it's a dire future - doesn't get much worse than one dimensional baseline grinders dominating the game unopposed.

Of course the courts, namely hardcourts, won't be sped up because that'd mean the ATP cash cows would often be sent packing before the SFs. Fuck the quality of the tennis as long as they're making money

Djokovic vs Murray on (slow) HC is a particularly dire matchup: those two are pretty much carbon copies of each other as far as strengths and weaknesses are concerned - both are return/defense oriented players with great backhands and movement... - and neither can hit through the other's defense, so not only are we treated to pushathons but it's like they're mirroring each other on court. I can hardly think of a matchup with less variety on display.

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I asked this once in the S.Q.T. thread and TigerTim answered my question so it's funny he started this thread. I also got a pic of Uncle Toni as an answer
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What do you guys think about synthetic grass courts like omnicourt. I don't know how it would play for the pros but I loved playing on it. I had a bad knee and omnicourt wasn't painful.
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The USO final was a worse pushfest than any other match in recent memory. It was simply horrendous, hurt the eyes just watching. If this is the future of tennis, then it's a dire future - doesn't get much worse than one dimensional baseline grinders dominating the game unopposed.
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