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Old 09-08-2012, 05:23 PM   #1486
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federer isn't reaching either of those. too many players can beat the old legs these days

Nope, not to many.

Who else then Berdych, Nadal and Nole? and please don't say Tsonga, he would eat him alive this year on slams for sure.
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Old 09-08-2012, 05:31 PM   #1487
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Nope, not to many.

Who else then Berdych, Nadal and Nole? and please don't say Tsonga, he would eat him alive this year on slams for sure.
when you go from 1 player beating you in slams, to 3 players at least beating you, that is a massive increase. shall i mention the numerous 5 setters he's come back from this year?

tsonga would beat federer more often if he had a brain and backhand. fortunately for federer, he doesn't have a backhand either, but at least has a brain

only way federer reaches lendl's title mark is if he preys on estoril, toyko, rotterdam, memphis, lyon etc. he isn't going to do that, especially not next year when he can skip the masters series that he's crap at.

federer has the weeks at no 1, slams are what matters for him
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:54 PM   #1488
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when you go from 1 player beating you in slams, to 3 players at least beating you, that is a massive increase. shall i mention the numerous 5 setters he's come back from this year?

tsonga would beat federer more often if he had a brain and backhand. fortunately for federer, he doesn't have a backhand either, but at least has a brain

only way federer reaches lendl's title mark is if he preys on estoril, toyko, rotterdam, memphis, lyon etc. he isn't going to do that, especially not next year when he can skip the masters series that he's crap at.

federer has the weeks at no 1, slams are what matters for him
The players i mention could beat Federer, but its not very likely, Murray in slams has no weapons vs Federer, and Nole can do it only on hard courts, RG/Wimby much less chance so you get my point.

When Federer is in good shape, Tsonga would not even make a brake, let alone winning or taking set. Like i said, Fed would destroy Tsonga this year.
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So Roger's playing Shaghai. If Djoker and Muzz play a long USO final (hope they do), hopefully Roger can gain some points here.
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Time is running out.

Is it possible that he won't win one hundred Grand Slams?
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100 slams? Interesting.

But if you win 100 masters is that better than a slam ???

Such is the questions Federer faces
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The players i mention could beat Federer, but its not very likely, Murray in slams has no weapons vs Federer, and Nole can do it only on hard courts, RG/Wimby much less chance so you get my point.

When Federer is in good shape, Tsonga would not even make a brake, let alone winning or taking set. Like i said, Fed would destroy Tsonga this year.
djokovic is 50/50 on clay versus federer...at this moment in time i'd say he has the advantage

old legs don't have the stamina for clay anymore

those three players have limited federer to one out of the last 16 slams. it's clearly very likely

as i said, federer should be content. he has achieved almost all of the important all time records
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Roger has yet to confirm he's playing DC. He has, however, confirmed he'll play Shanghai. Interesting. I'd love if he ends up #1 with 1 slam against Djoker's 2 .
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100 slams? Interesting.

But if you win 100 masters is that better than a slam ???

Such is the questions Federer faces
Interesting that you can,t read ! Lol . 100 titles, not 100 Slams . No to both
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Interesting that you can,t read ! Lol . 100 titles, not 100 Slams . No to both
Read post 1520, I was responding to that.
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He should skip DC, it's a worthless event.
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He should skip DC, it's a worthless event.
I agree. A title in Shanghai, Basel and WTF would be much more important. He's had a long season and he's 31 already. He needs some rest.
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Roger has yet to confirm he's playing DC. He has, however, confirmed he'll play Shanghai. Interesting. I'd love if he ends up #1 with 1 slam against Djoker's 2 .
What is most likely to happen is that Nole wins Year End #1 and you will be running around and crying again like a little girl Federer is not winning anything bigger than ATP 500 for the rest of the year
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What is most likely to happen is that Nole wins Year End #1 and you will be running around and crying again like a little girl Federer is not winning anything bigger than ATP 500 for the rest of the year
It's pretty obvious Nole will be #1 at the end of the season... he already has a big advantage, with a chance to improve if he wins the final against murray, and plays more tournaments than federer till the end of the year.

I wouldn't write off Fed at the WTF though if I were you.
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Still a chance for that #1 .
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