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View Poll Results: Who will win the 2012 year-end H2H?

Djokovic will take the lead 31 50.82%
Federer will claim his trophy 25 40.98%
They will end in a draw, for the first time 1 1.64%
I don't know. But this should be an official ATP award, it's amazing. 4 6.56%
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:19 AM   #226
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Federer > Djokovic. There is no debate on this at the moment.
but Nocvak is quite young and has a potantial to win +10 slams in total so I assume we have to wait some time to compare these two
Wll, noone who ever won 10+ slams managed as many titles after their 25th birthday as they did before. Since Djokovic has been 25 for some months now, he would be an exeption to the rule if he were to reach 10.
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Djokovic is not the one keeping his no1 spot with points from Doha and Halle.

8110 points from 12 tournaments > 7545 points from 14 tournaments.

And I don't even think the race is the most objective thing, but you Fed fans said it is.
I am not arguing 7545 is better than 8110, far from it, but you should really learn to count. Federer has played no more tournaments than Djokovic, they are both on 12. If you disagree, please humor me by listing the 14 tournaments in which you believe Federer has achieved ranking points this year.
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Well, as Djokotards like to claim, it'll come down to the USO. If RF's rested and Djoko a bit jaded, it'll count towards the tail end of the tournament.
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Maybe Nole hasn't been as crafty as Roger; he hasn't picked smaller tournaments were he can win even more easily than he won in Canada. Look at the points earned by them this year:


TOTAL POINTS
1. Novak 8110
2. Roger 7545

GRAND SLAM POINTS
1. Novak 3920
2. Roger 3440

MASTERS POINTS
1. Novak 3740
2. Roger 2405

SMALLER TOURNAMENTS
1. Roger 1700
2. Nole 450


What Nole needs is probably better planning: finding smaller tournaments where he can win without even trying. Roger is the goat of planning. No argument there.
I am really sick of seeing such posts from Noletards.

Firstly, the bolded stats look so lopsided because you are including the non-mandatory MC masters for Nole, and hence he has one lesser tournament in the "smaller tournaments".

Also, you seem to forget that in the smaller tournaments, 950 of the 1700 points Roger has are from tournaments that Nole participated in. If you look at the current ranking, Roger has Basel, another tournament in which Nole was there.

On second thought, clearly you Noletards don't think much of your hero. After all, Roger can enter tournaments and win without even trying even though Nole is there.
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Maybe Nole hasn't been as crafty as Roger; he hasn't picked smaller tournaments were he can win even more easily than he won in Canada. Look at the points earned by them this year:


TOTAL POINTS
1. Novak 8110
2. Roger 7545

GRAND SLAM POINTS
1. Novak 3920
2. Roger 3440

MASTERS POINTS
1. Novak 3740
2. Roger 2405

SMALLER TOURNAMENTS
1. Roger 1700
2. Nole 450

What Nole needs is probably better planning: finding smaller tournaments where he can win without even trying. Roger is the goat of planning. No argument there.
Implying Fed does it . Stay pressed, tard, Fed won Dubai and Rotterdam by beating JMDPx2 and Muzz. Djoko has not won against either in months.
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This Yolita is the most pressed of all the whinging Noletards, for sure
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In other words the chances of it happening is 1%. Thanks for the info. Djoker isn't winning both events that much is pretty sure if Murray is playing. Roger will probably win Cincy anyway.
Already won toronto...
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This Yolita is the most pressed of all the whinging Noletards, for sure
she is mexican

also, she just proves the vulture thing.. What happens if we take the 1 000 points away that novak got on this tournament? who has more points?

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Already won toronto...
that was NID, anyway.

If it happens, Roger is still seeded 2

and I agree, suddenly there is Xmas on Serbia again
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Maybe Nole hasn't been as crafty as Roger; he hasn't picked smaller tournaments were he can win even more easily than he won in Canada. Look at the points earned by them this year:


TOTAL POINTS
1. Novak 8110
2. Roger 7545

GRAND SLAM POINTS
1. Novak 3920
2. Roger 3440

MASTERS POINTS
1. Novak 3740
2. Roger 2405

SMALLER TOURNAMENTS
1. Roger 1700
2. Nole 450

What Nole needs is probably better planning: finding smaller tournaments where he can win without even trying. Roger is the goat of planning. No argument there.

Roger had three top 10 wins in Rotterdam/Dubai. Nole had Tipsarevic in Toronto

Roger's Masters points comes from only good Masters 1000. Nole has 1600 points from Monte carlo and Toronto. And don't make a fool of yourself bringing up Madrid!!
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she is mexican

also, she just proves the vulture thing.. What happens if we take the 1 000 points away that novak got on this tournament? who has more points?

Vulturevic chose wisely, who needs 250s

imo the ranking being won/lost this year on grass is significant. Federer is the all surface king, Djokovic couldn't keep up on grass, that's what it comes down to. Very likely that he'll regain the number 1 as the hard court season continues but the damage is already done - Federer further solidifies his greatness and consistency by regaining the ranking at 30 years old, while the Noletards cry Federer is so mean to interrupt the 2.0 wankfest with his cheating ways/winning.

Don't see Federer winning Paris again which is a significant chunk of points but of course could be rendered irrelevant by what happens at the USO. A Federer/Djokovic final could clinch YE#1 for one of them, and cause World War 3 on MTF, can't wait
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Nole 2012 > Olderer.
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Seeing past-prime federer at 31 still in the discussion for YE number one against his six years younger opponent is truly amazing.

To make it even more interesting Fed should win cincy. That would fire things up even more.

Don't know if he can pull a win there though, since he'll come to cincy without preparation.
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Wow, Djokovic's fans are hilarious. They were hiding in the woodwork for close to a month and now that he flukes a Masters with a depleted field he's the real #1 all of a sudden.
He is the BEST hardcourt player in the world they can put Agassi there and it still wouldn't have mattered troll
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Lol, Fed>Agassi on HCs and no. As Nole spam likes counting only the current period, they haven't played on HCs this year, so I find it hard to really say he's so far out.
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