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Murray's Singles Gold and Mixed Silver 93 80.17%
Federer's Doubles Gold and Singles Silver 23 19.83%
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Old 08-05-2012, 06:07 PM   #16
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Gold = Gold.

Doesn't matter what event. That's what the Olympics is all about.
That's the politically correct answer. But can you honestly say Mixed Doubles Gold = Singles Gold?
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Old 08-05-2012, 06:08 PM   #17
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Default Re: Murray's Singles Gold and Mixed Silver or Federer's Doubles Gold and Singles Silv

Singles Gold > Doubles Gold
but:
Doubles Gold + Singles Silver > Singles Gold

So in Olympics:

Murray > Federer > Nadal.
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Murray won them both in the same olympics on the same day, with a partner ranked 90 something.
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I don't want to pick either option. I consider them as EQUALLY good. Why there's no option for that?

Olympics is different. For the sake of your own glory, of course Murray's medals considered more valuable. But gold medal is gold medal in Olympics. The same player participated in multiple events except Djokovic, for example. It doesn't really work like GS where doubles events are just stepsons and stepdaughters compared to singles events.
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I don't want to pick either option. I consider them as EQUALLY good. Why there's no option for that?

Olympics is different. For the sake of your own glory, of course Murray's medals considered more valuable. But gold medal is gold medal in Olympics. The same player participated in multiple events except Djokovic, for example. It doesn't really work like GS where doubles events are just stepsons and stepdaughters compared to singles events.
Because I like people being decisive
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I don't want to pick either option. I consider them as EQUALLY good. Why there's no option for that?

Olympics is different. For the sake of your own glory, of course Murray's medals considered more valuable. But gold medal is gold medal in Olympics. The same player participated in multiple events except Djokovic, for example. It doesn't really work like GS where doubles events are just stepsons and stepdaughters compared to singles events.
Nole was in doubles also.
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Because I like people being decisive
In that case, of course I would definitely pick the second.
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Federer's singles silver and doubles gold. Fed had to play best of 5 in both finals, Murray's mixed doubles was best of two sets and a super TB
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Both are good, but I think singles gold trumps the other achievements as the and puts Murray very slightly ahead, but very slightly. Great by both players.
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1 gold 1 silver == 1 gold 1 silver
For normal sports fans: this.

I mean, what is better a medal in long jump or volleyball?

for most tennis fans: singles > doubles
ergo Murrays achievement is slightly better especially considering that he beat the GOAT to win Gold
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Winning two medals in one day is a remarkable achievement so Murray's gets my vote.
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The Olympics is probably the biggest event in the world for doubles. All of the usual problems with top players skipping pretty much disappear while the likes of Nadal/Djokovic/Murray all take a serious run at a medal.

Fed's gold run was ridiculous.
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Wawrinka will always be underrated for the simple reason that this gold medal doesn't get the credit it deserves (also because tennis doesn't have much room at the top for more than 3-5 players these days).

Murray's Gold + Silver was even more impressive, if only because of the lopsided result against Federer.
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Default Re: Murray's Singles Gold and Mixed Silver or Federer's Doubles Gold and Singles Silv

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Singles Gold > Doubles Gold
but:
Doubles Gold + Singles Silver > Singles Gold

So in Olympics:

Murray > Federer > Nadal.
Beg to dissagree, I bet federer would rather have the singles gold olympic medal rather than a doubles gold and singles silver. Same as in Tennis he rather wins another singles slam rather than winning two doubles slams. His single career is what matters to keep being in goat status. His doubles gold only matters for switzerland and patriotism, but the top atp single players couldnt care the less about doubles championships (wether atp tournamers, olympics,etc) achievements..

In paper its better the Fed case, for olympias medal table, winning an extra gold in doubles and silver in singles. But for tennis career and personal achievements the singles gold will always have the edge when he has to give his career winning resume.


Hence

For tennis career: ( reasoning singles careers is what matters, doubles doesnt mean anything)

Nadal = Murray > Federer


For the olympic medal table, patriotism and country: (reasoning a medal is a medal)

Murray = Federer > Nadal

I bet Feds cares more of his personal tennis career than what makes switzerland happy for a couple of weeks...

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Default Re: Murray's Singles Gold and Mixed Silver or Federer's Doubles Gold and Singles Silv

EQUAL...
At the olympics gold + silver = gold + silver...

its the fucking same...

one gold medal does not have more value than another
one silver medal does not have more value than another...
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