[Busterovic]

No thread so I figure I'd give it a go.

I legitimately begin to hate clay court tennis more and more and more and more everytime waning week that passes.

After an immaculate grass court tournament its tough to follow mundane clay court tourneys with the same guys, over and over and over and over and over again.

I mean seriously, is there any conviction in any of these matches? Ferru-Mugro is a top 10 battle but Ferrer has won so many times in a row and even if Mug wins who cares?

Tipsarevic-Monaco? Two of the more boring top 15 guys.

I have no idea why they have clay court tourneys after Wimbledon. It just seems so stupid to me.

Can't wait till the Olympics and Toronto but I'm so over the dirt.

Hoping Tipsy beats Monaco because I've taken action against the favorite and Mugro beats Ferry Ferru because I hate the POS and actually like Mugro.

One more week of this crap and then its good riddance.

[nastoff]

I just hate all tennis betting outside the slams/masters, it really feels like you have thrown away your money as long as you release that button.
So no difference whether it's clay or hard for me.

It's a little similar to going from the Euro 2012 to Slovakia division 2....does anybody really care?

[Busterovic]

As a whole for most of you guys was there even a comparison between Wimbledon and FO this year?

Absolutely zero real appeal at RG. Piggy just hammering guys brains in left and right with no real chance of losing.

For a set the final was interesting but other than that nothing was really THAT entertaining including JWT's 5 setter against Nole on Lenghlen and Fed going the distance against Delpo.

Thats by far the most boring and worst run GS.

[Busterovic]

Originally Posted by nastoff

I just hate all tennis betting outside the slams/masters, it really feels like you have thrown away your money as long as you release that button.
So no difference whether it's clay or hard for me.

Atleast at Wimbledon it feels like theres more exciting matchups.

Who really cares about a 55th ranked Spanish guy playing a 77th ranked Argentine?

It'll probably go 3 boring sets with a ton of stupid, long baseline rallies and really theres no telling who's going to win.

Its not only boring gambling wise but also aesthetically

[carlibengarli]

Tipsarevic @ 2.5 with Pinnacle
Tipsarevic 2-1 @ 5.54 with Pinnacle

[Busterovic]

Originally Posted by carlibengarli

Tipsarevic @ 2.5 with Pinnacle
Tipsarevic 2-1 @ 5.54 with Pinnacle

Hope you're right

[nole_no1]

Originally Posted by nastoff

I just hate all tennis betting outside the slams/masters, it really feels like you have thrown away your money as long as you release that button.
So no difference whether it's clay or hard for me.

It's a little similar to going from the Euro 2012 to Slovakia division 2....does anybody really care?

Well it's not like that at least in my oppinion. You can lose money anywhere or you can get good value anywhere. Big upsets can appear at slams/masters too while you can win some nice money in the challenger tour. Of course in the challenger tour there are fixed matches everywhere but those player who fix now fixed in the past too and they already have a bad reputation and you can avoid them easily.Of course it's more exciting to watch slams/masters but challenger matches can be very profitable sometimes

[Time2burn]

monaco is just going to grind tipsy down imo

[Busterovic]

IN PLAY Janko to beat Pico the ugly 1.44 *5-4 first set.

HUGE STAKE

If I have confidence in my tennis observation skills theres no way Janko lets this slip.

Hes playing very well + the experience he's had in ATP finals the last 18 months will pay off

[Busterovic]

Absolutely unreal turnaround in this match.

Tipsarevic was up 6-4 4-0 having won 6 games in a row and then now its *5-4 and Pico has won 5 in a row. But Tipsarevic will still win.

IN PLAY Janko 1.9 over Pico the ugly

[Busterovic]

Originally Posted by Busterovic

IN PLAY Janko to beat Pico the ugly 1.44 *5-4 first set.

HUGE STAKE

If I have confidence in my tennis observation skills theres no way Janko lets this slip.

Hes playing very well + the experience he's had in ATP finals the last 18 months will pay off

Originally Posted by Busterovic

Absolutely unreal turnaround in this match.

Tipsarevic was up 6-4 4-0 having won 6 games in a row and then now its *5-4 and Pico has won 5 in a row. But Tipsarevic will still win.

IN PLAY Janko 1.9 over Pico the ugly

W
W

finally

[carlibengarli]

Pruh tip: Pre-match odds.

[Busterovic]

Originally Posted by carlibengarli

Pruh tip: Pre-match odds.

what?

[Bleeth]

Originally Posted by nole_no1

Well it's not like that at least in my oppinion. You can lose money anywhere or you can get good value anywhere. Big upsets can appear at slams/masters too while you can win some nice money in the challenger tour. Of course in the challenger tour there are fixed matches everywhere but those player who fix now fixed in the past too and they already have a bad reputation and you can avoid them easily.Of course it's more exciting to watch slams/masters but challenger matches can be very profitable sometimes

Completely agree

[nastoff]

Originally Posted by Busterovic

Atleast at Wimbledon it feels like theres more exciting matchups.

Who really cares about a 55th ranked Spanish guy playing a 77th ranked Argentine?

It'll probably go 3 boring sets with a ton of stupid, long baseline rallies and really theres no telling who's going to win.

Its not only boring gambling wise but also aesthetically

Wimbledon is beyond comparison with anything else, it's by far the most exciting tournament in the world...but clay court mugfests can also be mildly entertaining, especially those SA ones... I'd say that maybe best of five is more suited to grass/hc where the action is faster than it is on clay.

With regards to upsets on slams/masters v upsets on challengers/lowly ATP tournaments I'd say there are upsets and upsets. Rosol beating Nadal was a major upset but also a great tennis moment...also Tipsarevic beating Monaco today was an upset but a deserved one...however, an upset as a result of fixing a match or of showing up just for the appearance fee is not a good upset...you have to go deep into a non slam/master week to find a day where those factors don't play a negative part.